# Things confirmed in the last hour or so: **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 10, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094 "2016-05-10T18:02:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/keif68/32/100928_2.png) [@Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Keif68)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/41 "2016-05-11T04:07:00Z")
> [@TheButtCarcass](#): > > > [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > > There was a Q&A session on Twitter with a dev who confirmed this. > > > > Also, another tidbit was that certain stationary machine guns are going to be class weapons, so while not 100% authentic, they did it for fun and class balance > > Liked, and subscribed.™ No me ---
**Author:** ![Brazilian\_Jezus](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/brazilian_jezus/32/101412_2.png) [@Brazilian\_Jezus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Brazilian_Jezus)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/42 "2016-05-11T04:10:00Z")
> [@Lordmang4](#): > > > [@Keif68](#): > > > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > > > [@CasualHorseRMax](#): > > > > > > > > Hahahahah have to say you surprised me there ;D > > > > > > I’m known for my creativity and pushing the envelope when it comes to gaming ideas. Of course, it rubbed some tryhard gamers the wrong way on the old Battlelog forums… > > > > If I remember correctly. People had an issue with you spamming COD threads. Am I correct? > > BF can learn quite a bit from COD. Ideas are ideas, no matter where they come from (even COD). > > But like I said, ideas rub some gamers the wrong way… COD can learn quite a few things from Battlefield too? Did you see that awesome trailer? ---
**Author:** ![TheButtCarcass](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thebuttcarcass/32/103769_2.png) [@TheButtCarcass](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheButtCarcass)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/43 "2016-05-11T04:11:00Z")
also, I agree with the above. People are way too literal-minded these days. ---
**Author:** ![Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@Lordmang4](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Lordmang4)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/44 "2016-05-11T04:13:00Z")
> [@Brazilian\_Jezus](#): > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > [@Keif68](#): > > > > > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > > > > > [@CasualHorseRMax](#): > > > > > > > > > > Hahahahah have to say you surprised me there ;D > > > > > > > > I’m known for my creativity and pushing the envelope when it comes to gaming ideas. Of course, it rubbed some tryhard gamers the wrong way on the old Battlelog forums… > > > > > > If I remember correctly. People had an issue with you spamming COD threads. Am I correct? > > > > BF can learn quite a bit from COD. Ideas are ideas, no matter where they come from (even COD). > > > > But like I said, ideas rub some gamers the wrong way… > > COD can learn quite a few things from Battlefield too? Did you see that awesome trailer? That goes without saying. Prejudice, close-mindedness, and immaturity knows no boundaries. ---
**Author:** ![TheButtCarcass](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thebuttcarcass/32/103769_2.png) [@TheButtCarcass](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheButtCarcass)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/45 "2016-05-11T04:15:00Z")
oh yeah, good point. do you guys think BF1 is going to be a really mature game like CoD? ---
**Author:** ![Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/keif68/32/100928_2.png) [@Keif68](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Keif68)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/46 "2016-05-11T04:16:00Z")
> [@TheButtCarcass](#): > > oh yeah, good point. do you guys think BF1 is going to be a really mature game like CoD? Without a doubt ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/47 "2016-05-11T04:16:00Z")
> [@afnav130](#): > > > [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > > > [@Rev0verDrive](#): > > > > > > The Authentic vs Realism parts have been confusing a lot of people. Yet, if the game went realistic and bolts were the only weapons the majority had to play with it would be ohk all the way and crying forever. Most would be barely out of spawn before dying. > > > > > > Gameplay is King! > > > > Yea, people just aren’t getting the fact you can have authenticity and be unrealistic… definitions are hard > > You can’t be authentic and unrealistic. Not in a literal sense. It would be like having a Spad that goes Mach 1. That’s not authentic, that’s unrealistic. If it could go 100mph, that’s authentic, not unrealistic. > > Concepts 101 I am not talking about speed. I am talking about a game that has authentic weapons and vehicles, however can be unrealistic in regards to gameplay and other situations. I am not sure why this is a difficult concept for you… ---
**Author:** ![S1ngular1ty](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/s1ngular1ty/32/103340_2.png) [@S1ngular1ty](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/S1ngular1ty)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/48 "2016-05-11T04:24:00Z")
> [@afnav130](#): > > You can’t be authentic and unrealistic. Not in a literal sense. It would be like having a Spad that goes Mach 1. That’s not authentic, that’s unrealistic. If it could go 100mph, that’s authentic, not unrealistic. > > Concepts 101 When he says authentic he means it looks like the real thing but doesn’t work like the real thing. This isn’t really what “authentic” means but that is what he is trying to say. ---
**Author:** ![Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@Rev0verDrive](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rev0verDrive)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 6:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/49 "2016-05-11T06:53:00Z")
It looks like a Javelin, Locks and fires like a Javelin, but sadly it hits like a frog on a skip. Lollll … my new BF4 tag. ---
**Author:** ![afnav130](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@afnav130](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/afnav130)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 7:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/50 "2016-05-11T07:28:00Z")
> [@S1ngular1ty](#): > > > [@afnav130](#): > > > > You can’t be authentic and unrealistic. Not in a literal sense. It would be like having a Spad that goes Mach 1. That’s not authentic, that’s unrealistic. If it could go 100mph, that’s authentic, not unrealistic. > > > > Concepts 101 > > When he says authentic he means it looks like the real thing but doesn’t work like the real thing. This isn’t really what “authentic” means but that is what he is trying to say. I saw a great post on a Ubi forum forum (debating much the same as this) several years ago stating this is what Devs and the like say when they have no answer. It’s akin to a parent saying “Well that’s the way it is”, knowing full well it’s not right but since your being petulant that’s what they do. I understand what he’s trying to say, just it’s really hard to accept flawed logic. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 8:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/51 "2016-05-11T08:42:00Z")
Post removed. -Cryphisss ---
**Author:** ![Rojo\_the\_Rooster](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rojo_the_rooster/32/103299_2.png) [@Rojo\_the\_Rooster](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rojo_the_Rooster)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 11:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/52 "2016-05-11T11:00:00Z")
Chickens aren’t supposed to fly, but I feel like I have a chance now. ---
**Author:** ![Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/brentlostak/32/101414_2.png) [@Brentlostak](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Brentlostak)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/53 "2016-05-11T12:27:00Z")
Post removed. -Cryphisss ---
**Author:** ![B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/b3antown_b3a5t/32/101262_2.png) [@B3ANTOWN\_B3A5T](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/B3ANTOWN_B3A5T)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/54 "2016-05-11T14:54:00Z")
> [@Brentlostak](#): > > > [@Jihad\_Jockey](#): > > > > > [@Lordmang4](#): > > > > > > > [@CasualHorseRMax](#): > > > > > > > > Hahahahah have to say you surprised me there ;D > > > > > > I’m known for my creativity and pushing the envelope when it comes to gaming ideas. Of course, it rubbed some tryhard gamers the wrong way on the old Battlelog forums… > > > > You were known for your trolling and pushing the boundaries of the ToS. Perhaps you’d still be posting there if you weren’t banned. > > Lordmang4 you were banned for life from battlelog forums, and now you’re back. How long do you intend to be able to post here, are you going for the first one to be banned for life again on this new forum. i give you 2 weeks! I’m pretty sure he got banned from The Division forums as well. ---
**Author:** ![redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@redzuluzulu0096](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/redzuluzulu0096)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/55 "2016-05-11T14:56:00Z")
Nobody runs around with m249s and LSATs in real life either, but nobody has a problem with doing it in BF2,3, 4, etc. There’s a video on YouTube showing that you can walk and shoot with the mg08s and other WWI era LMGs. I doubt they’ll let us use HMGs as kit weapons. They’ll still be stationary. I’m guessing. ---
**Author:** ![BadcuzTremysaid](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BadcuzTremysaid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BadcuzTremysaid)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/56 "2016-05-11T15:08:00Z")
> [@afnav130](#): > > > [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > > > [@afnav130](#): > > > > > > > [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Peccath](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > There was a Q&A session on Twitter with a dev who confirmed this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, another tidbit was that certain stationary machine guns are going to be class weapons, so while not 100% authentic, they did it for fun and class balance > > > > > > > > > > What does that mean? There are stationary machine guns around the map and only certain class can “enter” them? How about stationary AAs? > > > > > > > > Sorry, I explained it badly. Essentially there were weapons that weren’t carried in WW1, they were stationary only. However, in the realm of fun and making kits equal, they made them so they are essentially LMG’s that a class gets. > > > > > > If this is true, it’s hilarious. What a joke. Everything has to be balanced. Why? For the 12 year olds. So your gonna be hauling around at running speed stationary weapons? Brilliant. WW1 my a\*\*. > > > > > > This game will be filled with 12 year olds. Good luck with that. If DICE goes this route, it will hurt. Many, many people are expecting near close to authentic WW1 as possible. When things like this start coming out, the interest will drop. It won’t fail because of the setting, it will fail because of things like this. > > > > What? It is still authentic, but for the sake of a balanced and fun game, they are taking creative liberties. If you want a WW1 sim, you are looking in the wrong place, and I don’t suggest you buy this game. > > > > I think people still confuse authenticity and realism. The weapons are authentic, the era is authentic, the game is not at all realistic. Never was meant to be > > I don’t think it’s fun when you have unrealistic balances that make you say..“WTF? That’s not right”. And I’m not alone. You can have plenty of fun with it being realistic. Stop catering to 12 year olds. Also, I don’t know how often Battlefield is fun, for serious players. It’s challenging and that’s fun in its own special way. If people want “fun”, they can go play Call of Duty. Authenticity goes out the window when you make it unrealistic. Those two schools of thought are incompatible. > > If people could understand that we’d all be better off. :Insert Billy Madison insult: ---
**Author:** ![ZombieP1ow](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zombiep1ow/32/104199_2.png) [@ZombieP1ow](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ZombieP1ow)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/57 "2016-05-11T15:14:00Z")
> [@afnav130](#): > > > [@S1ngular1ty](#): > > > > > [@afnav130](#): > > > > > > You can’t be authentic and unrealistic. Not in a literal sense. It would be like having a Spad that goes Mach 1. That’s not authentic, that’s unrealistic. If it could go 100mph, that’s authentic, not unrealistic. > > > > > > Concepts 101 > > > > When he says authentic he means it looks like the real thing but doesn’t work like the real thing. This isn’t really what “authentic” means but that is what he is trying to say. > > I saw a great post on a Ubi forum forum (debating much the same as this) several years ago stating this is what Devs and the like say when they have no answer. It’s akin to a parent saying “Well that’s the way it is”, knowing full well it’s not right but since your being petulant that’s what they do. > > I understand what he’s trying to say, just it’s really hard to accept flawed logic. cognitive dissonance. The bane of common sense ---
**Author:** ![TheBlackDog14](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@TheBlackDog14](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheBlackDog14)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/58 "2016-05-11T16:28:00Z")
> [@redzuluzulu0096](#): > > Nobody runs around with m249s and LSATs in real life either, but nobody has a problem with doing it in BF2,3, 4, etc. > > There’s a video on YouTube showing that you can walk and shoot with the mg08s and other WWI era LMGs. > > I doubt they’ll let us use HMGs as kit weapons. They’ll still be stationary. I’m guessing. Yeah, the M249 is 17 Pounds, the LSAT is 9.8. Some of the stationary weapons we’re talking about, like the MG08, were at least like 66lbs WITHOUT their tripods. It’s not that they’re stationary, and “Not being used right,” its that it is literally impossible. The only way that they can make this sensible is if these stationary weapons only function when the bipod is put down, and barely usable at all other times. Their not LMGs, those weren’t invented yet, they’re HMGs. They weren’t designed to be used in walking around. It’s not empty devotion to realism, its about not turning a game set in WWI into make believe. ---
**Author:** ![windowlicker1005](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@windowlicker1005](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/windowlicker1005)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/59 "2016-05-11T16:35:00Z")
The m60 in bfv was fixed so that you can’t run around as fast. Probably what they’ll do here… ---
**Author:** ![FF-Bulletsponge](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ff-bulletsponge/32/101941_2.png) [@FF-Bulletsponge](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FF-Bulletsponge)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/things-confirmed-in-the-last-hour-or-so/101094/60 "2016-05-11T17:23:00Z")
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