Lordmang4:
BF can learn quite a bit from COD. Ideas are ideas, no matter where they come from (even COD).
But like I said, ideas rub some gamers the wrong way…
COD can learn quite a few things from Battlefield too? Did you see that awesome trailer?
also, I agree with the above. People are way too literal-minded these days.
That goes without saying.
Prejudice, close-mindedness, and immaturity knows no boundaries.
oh yeah, good point. do you guys think BF1 is going to be a really mature game like CoD?
afnav130:
You can’t be authentic and unrealistic. Not in a literal sense. It would be like having a Spad that goes Mach 1. That’s not authentic, that’s unrealistic. If it could go 100mph, that’s authentic, not unrealistic.
Concepts 101
I am not talking about speed. I am talking about a game that has authentic weapons and vehicles, however can be unrealistic in regards to gameplay and other situations. I am not sure why this is a difficult concept for you…
afnav130:
You can’t be authentic and unrealistic. Not in a literal sense. It would be like having a Spad that goes Mach 1. That’s not authentic, that’s unrealistic. If it could go 100mph, that’s authentic, not unrealistic.
Concepts 101
When he says authentic he means it looks like the real thing but doesn’t work like the real thing. This isn’t really what “authentic” means but that is what he is trying to say.
It looks like a Javelin, Locks and fires like a Javelin, but sadly it hits like a frog on a skip.
Lollll … my new BF4 tag.
I saw a great post on a Ubi forum forum (debating much the same as this) several years ago stating this is what Devs and the like say when they have no answer. It’s akin to a parent saying “Well that’s the way it is”, knowing full well it’s not right but since your being petulant that’s what they do.
I understand what he’s trying to say, just it’s really hard to accept flawed logic.
Chickens aren’t supposed to fly, but I feel like I have a chance now.
Brentlostak:
Lordmang4 you were banned for life from battlelog forums, and now you’re back. How long do you intend to be able to post here, are you going for the first one to be banned for life again on this new forum. i give you 2 weeks!
I’m pretty sure he got banned from The Division forums as well.
Nobody runs around with m249s and LSATs in real life either, but nobody has a problem with doing it in BF2,3, 4, etc.
There’s a video on YouTube showing that you can walk and shoot with the mg08s and other WWI era LMGs.
I doubt they’ll let us use HMGs as kit weapons. They’ll still be stationary. I’m guessing.
afnav130:
ThePoolshark:
afnav130:
ThePoolshark:
Sorry, I explained it badly. Essentially there were weapons that weren’t carried in WW1, they were stationary only. However, in the realm of fun and making kits equal, they made them so they are essentially LMG’s that a class gets.
If this is true, it’s hilarious. What a joke. Everything has to be balanced. Why? For the 12 year olds. So your gonna be hauling around at running speed stationary weapons? Brilliant. WW1 my a**.
This game will be filled with 12 year olds. Good luck with that. If DICE goes this route, it will hurt. Many, many people are expecting near close to authentic WW1 as possible. When things like this start coming out, the interest will drop. It won’t fail because of the setting, it will fail because of things like this.
What? It is still authentic, but for the sake of a balanced and fun game, they are taking creative liberties. If you want a WW1 sim, you are looking in the wrong place, and I don’t suggest you buy this game.
I think people still confuse authenticity and realism. The weapons are authentic, the era is authentic, the game is not at all realistic. Never was meant to be
I don’t think it’s fun when you have unrealistic balances that make you say..“WTF? That’s not right”. And I’m not alone. You can have plenty of fun with it being realistic. Stop catering to 12 year olds. Also, I don’t know how often Battlefield is fun, for serious players. It’s challenging and that’s fun in its own special way. If people want “fun”, they can go play Call of Duty. Authenticity goes out the window when you make it unrealistic. Those two schools of thought are incompatible.
If people could understand that we’d all be better off.
:Insert Billy Madison insult:
afnav130:
I saw a great post on a Ubi forum forum (debating much the same as this) several years ago stating this is what Devs and the like say when they have no answer. It’s akin to a parent saying “Well that’s the way it is”, knowing full well it’s not right but since your being petulant that’s what they do.
I understand what he’s trying to say, just it’s really hard to accept flawed logic.
cognitive dissonance. The bane of common sense
redzuluzulu0096:
Nobody runs around with m249s and LSATs in real life either, but nobody has a problem with doing it in BF2,3, 4, etc.
There’s a video on YouTube showing that you can walk and shoot with the mg08s and other WWI era LMGs.
I doubt they’ll let us use HMGs as kit weapons. They’ll still be stationary. I’m guessing.
Yeah, the M249 is 17 Pounds, the LSAT is 9.8. Some of the stationary weapons we’re talking about, like the MG08, were at least like 66lbs WITHOUT their tripods. It’s not that they’re stationary, and “Not being used right,” its that it is literally impossible. The only way that they can make this sensible is if these stationary weapons only function when the bipod is put down, and barely usable at all other times. Their not LMGs, those weren’t invented yet, they’re HMGs. They weren’t designed to be used in walking around. It’s not empty devotion to realism, its about not turning a game set in WWI into make believe.
The m60 in bfv was fixed so that you can’t run around as fast. Probably what they’ll do here…