# This game is a sinking ship. The deluxe content is utterly embarrassing. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 19, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423 "2019-01-19T22:53:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Astr0damus)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/181 "2019-02-25T22:44:00Z")
> [@WetIaM](#): > > > [@Astr0damus](#): > > > > # You call it a sinking ship, but others say it is still standing tall. > > > > ![Standing-tall.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/6/4/6414aeebe81fc0e27dfb21bccd5d987d858edb9f.jpeg) > > > > šŸ˜ƒ > > I pray you are joking. That is a real ship called the RP Flip. TLDR: BFV is a real sinking ship. Donā€™t you see the irony? Some look at that thing and think it is a sinking ship, but itā€™s really not at all. Some look at BF and call it a sinking ship, when it is really not at all. I thought you would appreciate the analogy. Apparently it was lost on you. I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ackers75)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 10:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/182 "2019-02-25T22:57:00Z")
Can see apex being the premier game in the ea fold and the battlefield franchise taking a back seat. Watch this space! ---
**Author:** ![Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/khronikos/32/102498_2.png) [@Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Khronikos)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/183 "2019-02-25T23:51:00Z")
> [@Sixclicks](#): > > > [@Khronikos](#): > > > > Okay, so per one of my last posts, I finally played the heck out of Apex Legends. I wonā€™t touch Anthem probably ever even when free, so this is about all my EA soul can justify. > > > > Itā€™s a cool game for sure. Won a couple times, teamed up with some people, met some new people. It doesnā€™t help that PS does NOT track the frigginā€™ players you meet. I thought that was the whole point of the mechanism, but it never works on most games. > > > > Anyway, compared to BFV I find obviously different issues with Apex. Itā€™s a new game though, so weā€™ll see how it evolves. > > > > Right now obviously, you are stuck on one map. Itā€™s a LARGE map for sure, but itā€™s still only one map. I can kind of see where BFV might be going with BR, but I fail to see how BFV is going to be any fun. The whole point of Apex is that you have very different characters that help each other out. I wouldnā€™t exactly be able to just throw any BFV class in there and call it a day. Their BR map also had better be pretty cool as Apex set the bar there. No question their map is amazing. One map of course. > > > > But after awhile playing alone it already started to dawn on me. These games are here to waste our time. Playing with two other randoms rarely results in coordination. > > > > So the gameplay loop started becoming: search around for 6-8 minutes, and then go die in one firefight at the end. 2ND PLACE OMG! > > > > Not really. I can see why kids are addicted to these games, but you need A LOT of free time to justify games like this. > > > > Me? I would rather go back and start playing and completing the wide variety of amazing single player games I have. I will touch into the sphere of BR and MP, but I canā€™t justify my time with games like these at the very least until they are polished and bug free, which Apex is most certainly not. > > > > TTK in Apex is also ABSURDLY high lol. I mean jesus. That I was not expecting, and after some time playing with randoms it just gets to the point I would rather not boot up the game unless someone I know is playing. Those games have a very small point of entry for people like me. > > > > Of course you already see people with loads of kills in the game. Itā€™s insane to think some streamer has 10K kills in the game. I canā€™t even imagine how you justify life anymore playing these games 24/7. Dear god people need to get out of the house. Stream from your backyard at least. Thatā€™s all I came away with after playing Apex for a day. It was mostly pleasant with friends, but in no way could I justify sticking with such a time waster. Overall: Fun but Pointless. > > > > And that IS okay. I donā€™t have an issue with it, except to say I think these types of games are making kids unable to process important things in life. Even as a kid gamer I never was addicted to a game like this, and I am not sure these games teach kids anything really but to quit immediately when you have bad teammates. BFV is much the same to me except the fun part is lacking due to the business model. In fact in BFV was the great WW2 game everyone wanted there is no way in heck I would ever trade it for something like Apex Legends. > > > > Do I really want to boot up and play a gameplay loop again and again that consists of me collecting stuff for 8 minutes and then engaging in one firefight where mostly the people with the best armor win? Not really. > > Itā€™s definitely better with an organized squad. Thereā€™s LFG websites to help you find other team oriented players if you donā€™t have any friends online. > > Iā€™ve only played 10 rounds of Apex so far, but we won 5 of those games and placed in the top 3 in 8 of them. > > The game has the same problem that every other BR game Iā€™ve tried has had for me. Itā€™s really repetitive and doesnā€™t seem like something that will have much longevity for me. > > I guess itā€™ll depend on how frequently they add new heroes, weapons, and maps. > > Still, Iā€™m having more fun with it than BFV right now, but that could of course be because I just started. Like I said, I question its longevity for me. Yeah, I had some fun with it too. I sure as heck didnā€™t win 5/10 times lol even when I teamed up with one other person. You literally need all three people knowing what to do. And I agree. I put some very decent hours into BFV before I realized things were starting to look like it just wasnā€™t coming together. I mean BFV still has best in class controls. I really hate how you can barely tune anything in COD and other games like Apex. It just puts me off when I canā€™t tune controls properly. BF is still king there. But I too doubt just how much Apex can stick around when others start to compete. I think it has a good chance if they do things right. But again: 6-8 minutes of jumping around the same map looking for randomized gear. 1-2 firefights three at most. You see all kinds of zero kill champions. I am just not sure something like that is worth more than 20 hours for me. ---
**Author:** ![Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sixclicks/32/103500_2.png) [@Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sixclicks)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/184 "2019-02-26T15:21:00Z")
> [@Khronikos](#): > > > [@Sixclicks](#): > > > > > [@Khronikos](#): > > > > > > Okay, so per one of my last posts, I finally played the heck out of Apex Legends. I wonā€™t touch Anthem probably ever even when free, so this is about all my EA soul can justify. > > > > > > Itā€™s a cool game for sure. Won a couple times, teamed up with some people, met some new people. It doesnā€™t help that PS does NOT track the frigginā€™ players you meet. I thought that was the whole point of the mechanism, but it never works on most games. > > > > > > Anyway, compared to BFV I find obviously different issues with Apex. Itā€™s a new game though, so weā€™ll see how it evolves. > > > > > > Right now obviously, you are stuck on one map. Itā€™s a LARGE map for sure, but itā€™s still only one map. I can kind of see where BFV might be going with BR, but I fail to see how BFV is going to be any fun. The whole point of Apex is that you have very different characters that help each other out. I wouldnā€™t exactly be able to just throw any BFV class in there and call it a day. Their BR map also had better be pretty cool as Apex set the bar there. No question their map is amazing. One map of course. > > > > > > But after awhile playing alone it already started to dawn on me. These games are here to waste our time. Playing with two other randoms rarely results in coordination. > > > > > > So the gameplay loop started becoming: search around for 6-8 minutes, and then go die in one firefight at the end. 2ND PLACE OMG! > > > > > > Not really. I can see why kids are addicted to these games, but you need A LOT of free time to justify games like this. > > > > > > Me? I would rather go back and start playing and completing the wide variety of amazing single player games I have. I will touch into the sphere of BR and MP, but I canā€™t justify my time with games like these at the very least until they are polished and bug free, which Apex is most certainly not. > > > > > > TTK in Apex is also ABSURDLY high lol. I mean jesus. That I was not expecting, and after some time playing with randoms it just gets to the point I would rather not boot up the game unless someone I know is playing. Those games have a very small point of entry for people like me. > > > > > > Of course you already see people with loads of kills in the game. Itā€™s insane to think some streamer has 10K kills in the game. I canā€™t even imagine how you justify life anymore playing these games 24/7. Dear god people need to get out of the house. Stream from your backyard at least. Thatā€™s all I came away with after playing Apex for a day. It was mostly pleasant with friends, but in no way could I justify sticking with such a time waster. Overall: Fun but Pointless. > > > > > > And that IS okay. I donā€™t have an issue with it, except to say I think these types of games are making kids unable to process important things in life. Even as a kid gamer I never was addicted to a game like this, and I am not sure these games teach kids anything really but to quit immediately when you have bad teammates. BFV is much the same to me except the fun part is lacking due to the business model. In fact in BFV was the great WW2 game everyone wanted there is no way in heck I would ever trade it for something like Apex Legends. > > > > > > Do I really want to boot up and play a gameplay loop again and again that consists of me collecting stuff for 8 minutes and then engaging in one firefight where mostly the people with the best armor win? Not really. > > > > Itā€™s definitely better with an organized squad. Thereā€™s LFG websites to help you find other team oriented players if you donā€™t have any friends online. > > > > Iā€™ve only played 10 rounds of Apex so far, but we won 5 of those games and placed in the top 3 in 8 of them. > > > > The game has the same problem that every other BR game Iā€™ve tried has had for me. Itā€™s really repetitive and doesnā€™t seem like something that will have much longevity for me. > > > > I guess itā€™ll depend on how frequently they add new heroes, weapons, and maps. > > > > Still, Iā€™m having more fun with it than BFV right now, but that could of course be because I just started. Like I said, I question its longevity for me. > > Yeah, I had some fun with it too. I sure as heck didnā€™t win 5/10 times lol even when I teamed up with one other person. You literally need all three people knowing what to do. > > And I agree. I put some very decent hours into BFV before I realized things were starting to look like it just wasnā€™t coming together. I mean BFV still has best in class controls. I really hate how you can barely tune anything in COD and other games like Apex. It just puts me off when I canā€™t tune controls properly. BF is still king there. > > But I too doubt just how much Apex can stick around when others start to compete. I think it has a good chance if they do things right. But again: 6-8 minutes of jumping around the same map looking for randomized gear. 1-2 firefights three at most. You see all kinds of zero kill champions. I am just not sure something like that is worth more than 20 hours for me. My win rate has dropped a little since then. My brother and I were playing together yesterday. We didnā€™t have a friend available to fill the 3rd slot, so we just played with randoms. It was a pretty terrible experience. Every random player we got over 4 games were literally the worst of the worst when it comes to skill. We would have been better off not having them at all. It really was that bad. So after yesterday, Iā€™m at 7 wins out of 17 games. ---
**Author:** ![Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/khronikos/32/102498_2.png) [@Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Khronikos)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/185 "2019-02-26T18:56:00Z")
> [@Sixclicks](#): > > > [@Khronikos](#): > > > > > [@Sixclicks](#): > > > > > > > [@Khronikos](#): > > > > > > > > Okay, so per one of my last posts, I finally played the heck out of Apex Legends. I wonā€™t touch Anthem probably ever even when free, so this is about all my EA soul can justify. > > > > > > > > Itā€™s a cool game for sure. Won a couple times, teamed up with some people, met some new people. It doesnā€™t help that PS does NOT track the frigginā€™ players you meet. I thought that was the whole point of the mechanism, but it never works on most games. > > > > > > > > Anyway, compared to BFV I find obviously different issues with Apex. Itā€™s a new game though, so weā€™ll see how it evolves. > > > > > > > > Right now obviously, you are stuck on one map. Itā€™s a LARGE map for sure, but itā€™s still only one map. I can kind of see where BFV might be going with BR, but I fail to see how BFV is going to be any fun. The whole point of Apex is that you have very different characters that help each other out. I wouldnā€™t exactly be able to just throw any BFV class in there and call it a day. Their BR map also had better be pretty cool as Apex set the bar there. No question their map is amazing. One map of course. > > > > > > > > But after awhile playing alone it already started to dawn on me. These games are here to waste our time. Playing with two other randoms rarely results in coordination. > > > > > > > > So the gameplay loop started becoming: search around for 6-8 minutes, and then go die in one firefight at the end. 2ND PLACE OMG! > > > > > > > > Not really. I can see why kids are addicted to these games, but you need A LOT of free time to justify games like this. > > > > > > > > Me? I would rather go back and start playing and completing the wide variety of amazing single player games I have. I will touch into the sphere of BR and MP, but I canā€™t justify my time with games like these at the very least until they are polished and bug free, which Apex is most certainly not. > > > > > > > > TTK in Apex is also ABSURDLY high lol. I mean jesus. That I was not expecting, and after some time playing with randoms it just gets to the point I would rather not boot up the game unless someone I know is playing. Those games have a very small point of entry for people like me. > > > > > > > > Of course you already see people with loads of kills in the game. Itā€™s insane to think some streamer has 10K kills in the game. I canā€™t even imagine how you justify life anymore playing these games 24/7. Dear god people need to get out of the house. Stream from your backyard at least. Thatā€™s all I came away with after playing Apex for a day. It was mostly pleasant with friends, but in no way could I justify sticking with such a time waster. Overall: Fun but Pointless. > > > > > > > > And that IS okay. I donā€™t have an issue with it, except to say I think these types of games are making kids unable to process important things in life. Even as a kid gamer I never was addicted to a game like this, and I am not sure these games teach kids anything really but to quit immediately when you have bad teammates. BFV is much the same to me except the fun part is lacking due to the business model. In fact in BFV was the great WW2 game everyone wanted there is no way in heck I would ever trade it for something like Apex Legends. > > > > > > > > Do I really want to boot up and play a gameplay loop again and again that consists of me collecting stuff for 8 minutes and then engaging in one firefight where mostly the people with the best armor win? Not really. > > > > > > Itā€™s definitely better with an organized squad. Thereā€™s LFG websites to help you find other team oriented players if you donā€™t have any friends online. > > > > > > Iā€™ve only played 10 rounds of Apex so far, but we won 5 of those games and placed in the top 3 in 8 of them. > > > > > > The game has the same problem that every other BR game Iā€™ve tried has had for me. Itā€™s really repetitive and doesnā€™t seem like something that will have much longevity for me. > > > > > > I guess itā€™ll depend on how frequently they add new heroes, weapons, and maps. > > > > > > Still, Iā€™m having more fun with it than BFV right now, but that could of course be because I just started. Like I said, I question its longevity for me. > > > > Yeah, I had some fun with it too. I sure as heck didnā€™t win 5/10 times lol even when I teamed up with one other person. You literally need all three people knowing what to do. > > > > And I agree. I put some very decent hours into BFV before I realized things were starting to look like it just wasnā€™t coming together. I mean BFV still has best in class controls. I really hate how you can barely tune anything in COD and other games like Apex. It just puts me off when I canā€™t tune controls properly. BF is still king there. > > > > But I too doubt just how much Apex can stick around when others start to compete. I think it has a good chance if they do things right. But again: 6-8 minutes of jumping around the same map looking for randomized gear. 1-2 firefights three at most. You see all kinds of zero kill champions. I am just not sure something like that is worth more than 20 hours for me. > > My win rate has dropped a little since then. > > My brother and I were playing together yesterday. We didnā€™t have a friend available to fill the 3rd slot, so we just played with randoms. > > It was a pretty terrible experience. Every random player we got over 4 games were literally the worst of the worst when it comes to skill. We would have been better off not having them at all. It really was that bad. > > So after yesterday, Iā€™m at 7 wins out of 17 games. Ha yeah. I only played about 3 games yesterday. We did once make it to the last two groups. One of my randoms was good. The other doucher went off and died to the only two remaining dudes before we even had a chance to get set up. We were totally fine, but he basically threw the match in their favor. Honestly, I feel the game is nearly unplayable without a full squad, or rather, you are just wasting time without two others. I have no idea how people find 8 minutes of mostly mediocre looting and then one major firefight maybe two is a game worth your time but whatever. I do have friends that play, but right now I just want to see patches with the game. It needs to be ironed out and dear god I hope the TTK is at least looked at with netcode. It seems all over the place with certain weapons. Weapon balance is trash imo. ---
**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/186 "2019-02-26T19:27:00Z")
I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. ---
**Author:** ![Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trokey66/32/103889_2.png) [@Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Trokey66)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/187 "2019-02-26T20:06:00Z")
> [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. Champion, one less KB&M! Enjoyā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/darkesthour138/32/101633_2.png) [@DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DarkestHour138)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/188 "2019-02-26T20:14:00Z")
> [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. Depends on which version of an XBox you have. The game is so much better on the X over the S. ---
**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/189 "2019-02-26T20:23:00Z")
> [@Trokey66](#): > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > Champion, one less KB&M! > > Enjoyā€¦ Should use the Xim on PC and start fueding with the PC folks here. Lol > [@DarkestHour138](#): > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > Depends on which version of an XBox you have. The game is so much better on the X over the S. Itā€™s the X. But itā€™s still locked at 30 fps. After testing PC fps I donā€™t think I can ever go back to console. ---
**Author:** ![DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/darkesthour138/32/101633_2.png) [@DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DarkestHour138)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/190 "2019-02-26T20:26:00Z")
> [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > [@Trokey66](#): > > > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > > > Champion, one less KB&M! > > > > Enjoyā€¦ > > Should use the Xim on PC and start fueding with the PC folks here. Lol > > > [@DarkestHour138](#): > > > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > > > Depends on which version of an XBox you have. The game is so much better on the X over the S. > > Itā€™s the X. But itā€™s still locked at 30 fps. After testing PC fps I donā€™t think I can ever go back to console. Based on DF itā€™s at 60. It doesnā€™t stay constant but the target is 60. [![Video: [4K] Battlefield 5: Xbox One vs X Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test!](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/3/3/33589d155471f9990fa7526bbef0e9d443915f40.jpeg "[4K] Battlefield 5: Xbox One vs X Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4b-EGr60U) ---
**Author:** ![trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trip1ex)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/191 "2019-02-26T20:41:00Z")
> [@Khronikos](#): > > > [@Sixclicks](#): > > > > > [@Khronikos](#): > > > > > > > [@Sixclicks](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Khronikos](#): > > > > > > > > > > Okay, so per one of my last posts, I finally played the heck out of Apex Legends. I wonā€™t touch Anthem probably ever even when free, so this is about all my EA soul can justify. > > > > > > > > > > Itā€™s a cool game for sure. Won a couple times, teamed up with some people, met some new people. It doesnā€™t help that PS does NOT track the frigginā€™ players you meet. I thought that was the whole point of the mechanism, but it never works on most games. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, compared to BFV I find obviously different issues with Apex. Itā€™s a new game though, so weā€™ll see how it evolves. > > > > > > > > > > Right now obviously, you are stuck on one map. Itā€™s a LARGE map for sure, but itā€™s still only one map. I can kind of see where BFV might be going with BR, but I fail to see how BFV is going to be any fun. The whole point of Apex is that you have very different characters that help each other out. I wouldnā€™t exactly be able to just throw any BFV class in there and call it a day. Their BR map also had better be pretty cool as Apex set the bar there. No question their map is amazing. One map of course. > > > > > > > > > > But after awhile playing alone it already started to dawn on me. These games are here to waste our time. Playing with two other randoms rarely results in coordination. > > > > > > > > > > So the gameplay loop started becoming: search around for 6-8 minutes, and then go die in one firefight at the end. 2ND PLACE OMG! > > > > > > > > > > Not really. I can see why kids are addicted to these games, but you need A LOT of free time to justify games like this. > > > > > > > > > > Me? I would rather go back and start playing and completing the wide variety of amazing single player games I have. I will touch into the sphere of BR and MP, but I canā€™t justify my time with games like these at the very least until they are polished and bug free, which Apex is most certainly not. > > > > > > > > > > TTK in Apex is also ABSURDLY high lol. I mean jesus. That I was not expecting, and after some time playing with randoms it just gets to the point I would rather not boot up the game unless someone I know is playing. Those games have a very small point of entry for people like me. > > > > > > > > > > Of course you already see people with loads of kills in the game. Itā€™s insane to think some streamer has 10K kills in the game. I canā€™t even imagine how you justify life anymore playing these games 24/7. Dear god people need to get out of the house. Stream from your backyard at least. Thatā€™s all I came away with after playing Apex for a day. It was mostly pleasant with friends, but in no way could I justify sticking with such a time waster. Overall: Fun but Pointless. > > > > > > > > > > And that IS okay. I donā€™t have an issue with it, except to say I think these types of games are making kids unable to process important things in life. Even as a kid gamer I never was addicted to a game like this, and I am not sure these games teach kids anything really but to quit immediately when you have bad teammates. BFV is much the same to me except the fun part is lacking due to the business model. In fact in BFV was the great WW2 game everyone wanted there is no way in heck I would ever trade it for something like Apex Legends. > > > > > > > > > > Do I really want to boot up and play a gameplay loop again and again that consists of me collecting stuff for 8 minutes and then engaging in one firefight where mostly the people with the best armor win? Not really. > > > > > > > > Itā€™s definitely better with an organized squad. Thereā€™s LFG websites to help you find other team oriented players if you donā€™t have any friends online. > > > > > > > > Iā€™ve only played 10 rounds of Apex so far, but we won 5 of those games and placed in the top 3 in 8 of them. > > > > > > > > The game has the same problem that every other BR game Iā€™ve tried has had for me. Itā€™s really repetitive and doesnā€™t seem like something that will have much longevity for me. > > > > > > > > I guess itā€™ll depend on how frequently they add new heroes, weapons, and maps. > > > > > > > > Still, Iā€™m having more fun with it than BFV right now, but that could of course be because I just started. Like I said, I question its longevity for me. > > > > > > Yeah, I had some fun with it too. I sure as heck didnā€™t win 5/10 times lol even when I teamed up with one other person. You literally need all three people knowing what to do. > > > > > > And I agree. I put some very decent hours into BFV before I realized things were starting to look like it just wasnā€™t coming together. I mean BFV still has best in class controls. I really hate how you can barely tune anything in COD and other games like Apex. It just puts me off when I canā€™t tune controls properly. BF is still king there. > > > > > > But I too doubt just how much Apex can stick around when others start to compete. I think it has a good chance if they do things right. But again: 6-8 minutes of jumping around the same map looking for randomized gear. 1-2 firefights three at most. You see all kinds of zero kill champions. I am just not sure something like that is worth more than 20 hours for me. > > > > My win rate has dropped a little since then. > > > > My brother and I were playing together yesterday. We didnā€™t have a friend available to fill the 3rd slot, so we just played with randoms. > > > > It was a pretty terrible experience. Every random player we got over 4 games were literally the worst of the worst when it comes to skill. We would have been better off not having them at all. It really was that bad. > > > > So after yesterday, Iā€™m at 7 wins out of 17 games. > > Ha yeah. I only played about 3 games yesterday. We did once make it to the last two groups. One of my randoms was good. The other doucher went off and died to the only two remaining dudes before we even had a chance to get set up. We were totally fine, but he basically threw the match in their favor. > > Honestly, I feel the game is nearly unplayable without a full squad, or rather, you are just wasting time without two others. I have no idea how people find 8 minutes of mostly mediocre looting and then one major firefight maybe two is a game worth your time but whatever. > > I do have friends that play, but right now I just want to see patches with the game. It needs to be ironed out and dear god I hope the TTK is at least looked at with netcode. It seems all over the place with certain weapons. > > Weapon balance is trash imo. Not a BR fan but all Iā€™ve been playing is Apex the past few weeks. ITā€™s everything i wanted BF to be. Well thought out, well executed, and fun to play. If you join solo you get matched up with other solos so the bad squadmate thing isnā€™t as bad as it seems. Others have the same luck or lack of luck in getting squadmates. Often I find you can do better joining solos because of this. You donā€™t have to spend 8 minutes looting. You control how much time you spend on looting. You can choose to literally fight in the first seconds by landing in hotspots. You can choose to land close to hotspots and loot for 1 minute and then go join the fight at the hotspot. Or you can loot for 8+ minutes and then go find someone. Iā€™m finding the sweetspot for me to be loot a bit and then get into action. I donā€™t like looting for a long time every round only to die quick. Really well done game. ---
**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/192 "2019-02-26T20:42:00Z")
> [@DarkestHour138](#): > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > [@Trokey66](#): > > > > > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > > > > > Champion, one less KB&M! > > > > > > Enjoyā€¦ > > > > Should use the Xim on PC and start fueding with the PC folks here. Lol > > > > > [@DarkestHour138](#): > > > > > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > > > > > Depends on which version of an XBox you have. The game is so much better on the X over the S. > > > > Itā€™s the X. But itā€™s still locked at 30 fps. After testing PC fps I donā€™t think I can ever go back to console. > > Based on DF itā€™s at 60. It doesnā€™t stay constant but the target is 60. > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4b-EGr60U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4b-EGr60U) It does run at 60 fps for single player but multiplayer is 30 fps unfortunately, like walking in mud. ---
**Author:** ![g0merpile](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/g0merpile/32/102030_2.png) [@g0merpile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/g0merpile)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/193 "2019-02-26T20:46:00Z")
There is a new ship built With every sunken ship. That is better then the sunken one. JUST SAYING ---
**Author:** ![DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/darkesthour138/32/101633_2.png) [@DarkestHour138](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DarkestHour138)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/194 "2019-02-26T20:56:00Z")
> [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > [@DarkestHour138](#): > > > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > > > [@Trokey66](#): > > > > > > > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > > > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > > > > > > > Champion, one less KB&M! > > > > > > > > Enjoyā€¦ > > > > > > Should use the Xim on PC and start fueding with the PC folks here. Lol > > > > > > > [@DarkestHour138](#): > > > > > > > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > > > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > > > > > > > Depends on which version of an XBox you have. The game is so much better on the X over the S. > > > > > > Itā€™s the X. But itā€™s still locked at 30 fps. After testing PC fps I donā€™t think I can ever go back to console. > > > > Based on DF itā€™s at 60. It doesnā€™t stay constant but the target is 60. > > > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4b-EGr60U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4b-EGr60U) > > It does run at 60 fps for single player but multiplayer is 30 fps unfortunately, like walking in mud. Go to the 3:49 mark, thatā€™s MP theyā€™re testing and itā€™s at 60. ---
**Author:** ![Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Astr0damus)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/195 "2019-02-26T21:00:00Z")
> [@DarkestHour138](#): > > Itā€™s the X. But itā€™s still locked at 30 fps. After testing PC fps I donā€™t think I can ever go back to console. Based on DF itā€™s at 60. It doesnā€™t stay constant but the target is 60. [![Video: [4K] Battlefield 5: Xbox One vs X Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test!](https://img.youtube.com/vi/NQ4b-EGr60U/maxresdefault.jpg "[4K] Battlefield 5: Xbox One vs X Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4b-EGr60U) == Wow, this video makes me a little jelly of the X, I think I might get one soon. ---
**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/196 "2019-02-26T21:09:00Z")
> [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. Iā€™m a bit sad about that as we never managed a game together. Ah well, bon voyage and enjoy PC man šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/197 "2019-02-26T21:26:00Z")
> [@ElliotLH](#): > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > Iā€™m a bit sad about that as we never managed a game together. Ah well, bon voyage and enjoy PC man šŸ™‚ Thanks! šŸ™‚ I know man. Iā€™ve put in very little time into the game this year so far. ---
**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/198 "2019-02-26T21:52:00Z")
> [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > [@ElliotLH](#): > > > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > > > Iā€™m a bit sad about that as we never managed a game together. Ah well, bon voyage and enjoy PC man šŸ™‚ > > Thanks! šŸ™‚ I know man. Iā€™ve put in very little time into the game this year so far. Itā€™s all good man and itā€™s the same for me right now. I probably post here more than I actually play nowadays. To paraphrase Jurassic Park: ā€œLifeā€¦Life gets in the wayā€ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Woodlbrad](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@Woodlbrad](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Woodlbrad)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/199 "2019-02-26T22:34:00Z")
Deluxe owners should get some currency when its released. ---
**Author:** ![BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baronvongoon/32/100934_2.png) [@BaronVonGoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaronVonGoon)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/200 "2019-02-26T22:39:00Z")
> [@ElliotLH](#): > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > [@ElliotLH](#): > > > > > > > [@BaronVonGoon](#): > > > > > > > > I think the Battlefield franchise is the only reason Iā€™ve been on console for the last 5 years. This game being so crappy on console made me realize I have no use for console. Sold it today. Going to get a PC. Atleast the netcode and frames will be better on PC. > > > > > > Iā€™m a bit sad about that as we never managed a game together. Ah well, bon voyage and enjoy PC man šŸ™‚ > > > > Thanks! šŸ™‚ I know man. Iā€™ve put in very little time into the game this year so far. > > Itā€™s all good man and itā€™s the same for me right now. I probably post here more than I actually play nowadays. > > To paraphrase Jurassic Park: ā€œLifeā€¦Life gets in the wayā€ šŸ˜ƒ Haha same. Iā€™ve definitely been on here more than playing the game. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423.md?page=9) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423.md?page=11)