# This game is a sinking ship. The deluxe content is utterly embarrassing.

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 19, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423 "2019-01-19T22:53:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/khronikos/32/102498_2.png) [@Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Khronikos)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/121 "2019-02-05T07:07:00Z")

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> [@Stahlmach](#):
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> > [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > And this title is worse than Hardline, the only drawing power it has is WW2 era shooter.
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> And even with that it fails. There is no immersion in any way, being part of the biggest war in human history. It just feels like " Dudes A are fighting Dudes B but Dudes A have a different colour and Vehicles than Dudes B and vice versa "

Immersion is a huge issue. COD had the HQ at least and tons of little maps. The HQ was a nice place to wander around and talk or chat with people. It gives the game a bit more immersion in the WW2 aesthetic.

BFV on the other hand looks like some modern euro game. The armory and areas to see your equipment are so boring, so lame, and it just makes me not even want to level up. I hate everything about its UI, the look of it, the tone of it. None of it even remotely comes off as professional. It just looks like some kid designed a random modern UI for a modern shooter, and even then it’s bad. The soldier scenes you have in the main menu are terrible. The detail is mediocre, the look is gross, and the whole thing is amateurish. I just barely every get the idea I am in a WW2 game when playing this thing.

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**Author:** ![CHAMMOND1992](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@CHAMMOND1992](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CHAMMOND1992)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 8:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/122 "2019-02-05T08:24:00Z")

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> [@Khronikos](#):
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> Anthem is sure lighting the fires up lol. Looks like another unfinished game is finding its way into consumer’s hands. Enough is enough at some point. EA literally does not even bother to have a semblance of finished games anymore. This is not okay really.

Nice way to foreshadow your eventual purchase.

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/123 "2019-02-05T12:50:00Z")

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> [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > [@Anti-Messiah](#):
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> > > [@OP\_Glitchmobile](#):
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> > > > [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > > > > [@munkt0r](#):
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> > > > > > [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > > > > > BF 5 isnt even in the Top 15 played games om xbox right now lol. point proven
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> > > > > He’s right guys, it’s only top 20.
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> > > > > Clearly the end of teh franchise and “sinking ship”.
> > > > > 
> > > > > EA/DICE should just close up shop as they clearly are going under with BF5. It’s the end of the road, sky is falling.
> > > > 
> > > > you understand it was 2nd most purchased game on xbox and was 7th played a month ago? its funny watching people defend just basic info i post to support the census of this title. name some of those titles beating it out in the FPS genre. You do know this launch was to target the fortnite crowd that spends 25$ million on just skins monthly, hence battle royale lol. So its funny they literally failed their own goal that directed the development process. And this title is worse than Hardline, the only drawing power it has is WW2 era shooter.
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> > > Alleged WW2 shooter.  
> > > 's don’t even have their symbol..because some might get offended…poor things.
> > 
> > Well when an army kills millions in gas chambers, smash infants to death with the butts of their rifles, and have committed many other unspeakable atrocities, someone might get offended.
> > 
> > Would you want to play a game that bears the hate symbol of an army that tried to annihilate your whole race?
> > 
> > It might not mean a lot to you, but for some that symbol recounts pain, horror and the death of many close family members.
> 
> you missed the entire point. put it this way, fortnite, pubg, and cod all offer more immersion. playlists prove this since they are ALL played more than BF5.

Lmfao.

So your logic is that fortnite, pubg, and Cod offer more immersion because they’re played more? Can I have what you’re smoking?

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**Author:** ![EA\_Rtas](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ea_rtas/32/101818_2.png) [@EA\_Rtas](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EA_Rtas)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/124 "2019-02-05T13:39:00Z")

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Alright everyone enough with the snarky comments and keep the thread on topic.

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**Author:** ![munkt0r](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@munkt0r](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/munkt0r)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/125 "2019-02-05T19:23:00Z")

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> [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > [@munkt0r](#):
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> > > [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > > BF 5 isnt even in the Top 15 played games om xbox right now lol. point proven
> > 
> > He’s right guys, it’s only top 20.
> > 
> > Clearly the end of teh franchise and “sinking ship”.
> > 
> > EA/DICE should just close up shop as they clearly are going under with BF5. It’s the end of the road, sky is falling.
> 
> you understand it was 2nd most purchased game on xbox and was 7th played a month ago? its funny watching people defend just basic info i post to support the census of this title. name some of those titles beating it out in the FPS genre. You do know this launch was to target the fortnite crowd that spends 25$ million on just skins monthly, hence battle royale lol. So its funny they literally failed their own goal that directed the development process. And this title is worse than Hardline, the only drawing power it has is WW2 era shooter.

Not sure if i’m “defending” the game so much as just not agreeing with the criteria you use to determine “failure”.

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**Author:** ![Stahlmach](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Stahlmach](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stahlmach)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/126 "2019-02-05T19:31:00Z")

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> [@EA\_Rtas](#):
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> Alright everyone enough with the snarky comments and keep the thread on topic.

It would have been great if you guys would have stayed on topic and create something that even just has a small part off WW2 immersion in any way…

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**Author:** ![munkt0r](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@munkt0r](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/munkt0r)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/127 "2019-02-05T19:55:00Z")

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> [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > [@Loqtrall](#):
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> > > [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > > > [@Anti-Messiah](#):
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> > > > > [@OP\_Glitchmobile](#):
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> > > > > > [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > > > > > > [@munkt0r](#):
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> > > > > > > > [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > > > > > > > BF 5 isnt even in the Top 15 played games om xbox right now lol. point proven
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > He’s right guys, it’s only top 20.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Clearly the end of teh franchise and “sinking ship”.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > EA/DICE should just close up shop as they clearly are going under with BF5. It’s the end of the road, sky is falling.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > you understand it was 2nd most purchased game on xbox and was 7th played a month ago? its funny watching people defend just basic info i post to support the census of this title. name some of those titles beating it out in the FPS genre. You do know this launch was to target the fortnite crowd that spends 25$ million on just skins monthly, hence battle royale lol. So its funny they literally failed their own goal that directed the development process. And this title is worse than Hardline, the only drawing power it has is WW2 era shooter.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Alleged WW2 shooter.  
> > > > > 's don’t even have their symbol..because some might get offended…poor things.
> > > > 
> > > > Well when an army kills millions in gas chambers, smash infants to death with the butts of their rifles, and have committed many other unspeakable atrocities, someone might get offended.
> > > > 
> > > > Would you want to play a game that bears the hate symbol of an army that tried to annihilate your whole race?
> > > > 
> > > > It might not mean a lot to you, but for some that symbol recounts pain, horror and the death of many close family members.
> > > 
> > > you missed the entire point. put it this way, fortnite, pubg, and cod all offer more immersion. playlists prove this since they are ALL played more than BF5.
> > 
> > Lmfao.
> > 
> > So your logic is that fortnite, pubg, and Cod offer more immersion because they’re played more? Can I have what you’re smoking?
> 
> they have a base, and they retain that base. i think you are trying to redefine immersion in context of game styles. fortnite sells 25$ million in skins a month. it has, it did, and it will still populate more players than bf5. so yes, their players are immersed into their game model.
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> thanks for allowing me to clear that up.

You’re referring to buy-in, or conversion, or adoption.

Not immersion.

From an objective standpoint of commonly used terms within the industry.

Immersion is referring to the depth in which a person is involved with the in-game story/setting. It’s effectively how “separated” from the real world you become when engaging with a game.

In other words, you’re misusing the word in this context - which isn’t a huge deal really as I did understand what you were getting at based on different posts of yours.

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/128 "2019-02-05T20:04:00Z")

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> [@Redstripe101](#):
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> i think you are trying to redefine immersion in context of game styles.

I think you should search the definition of immersion before insisting I’m trying to redefine it.

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**Author:** ![warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/warslag/32/101053_2.png) [@warslag](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/warslag)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/129 "2019-02-05T20:07:00Z")

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I think you may be confusing ‘suspension of disbelief’ with ‘immersion’.

They are very similar things. But I think ‘suspension of disbelief’ means consciously allowing yourself to fall into what you’re experiencing by ignoring the fact it obviously cannot be real.

Immersion is where your thoughts are, to a varying degree, saturated by the experience itself.

Therefore, ‘suspension of disbelief’ is where you have consciously lost yourself, and ‘immersion’ is where you’re just surrounded by it.

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**Author:** ![OP\_Glitchmobile](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/op_glitchmobile/32/103031_2.png) [@OP\_Glitchmobile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OP_Glitchmobile)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/130 "2019-02-05T23:11:00Z")

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> [@Anti-Messiah](#):
>
> > [@OP\_Glitchmobile](#):
> >
> > > [@Redstripe101](#):
> > >
> > > > [@munkt0r](#):
> > > >
> > > > > [@Redstripe101](#):
> > > > >
> > > > > BF 5 isnt even in the Top 15 played games om xbox right now lol. point proven
> > > > 
> > > > He’s right guys, it’s only top 20.
> > > > 
> > > > Clearly the end of teh franchise and “sinking ship”.
> > > > 
> > > > EA/DICE should just close up shop as they clearly are going under with BF5. It’s the end of the road, sky is falling.
> > > 
> > > you understand it was 2nd most purchased game on xbox and was 7th played a month ago? its funny watching people defend just basic info i post to support the census of this title. name some of those titles beating it out in the FPS genre. You do know this launch was to target the fortnite crowd that spends 25$ million on just skins monthly, hence battle royale lol. So its funny they literally failed their own goal that directed the development process. And this title is worse than Hardline, the only drawing power it has is WW2 era shooter.
> > 
> > Alleged WW2 shooter.  
> > 's don’t even have their symbol..because some might get offended…poor things.
> 
> Well when an army kills millions in gas chambers, smash infants to death with the butts of their rifles, and have committed many other unspeakable atrocities, someone might get offended.
> 
> Would you want to play a game that bears the hate symbol of an army that tried to annihilate your whole race?
> 
> It might not mean a lot to you, but for some that symbol recounts pain, horror and the death of many close family members.

I bet my left ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯, they’ll put in both Japanese Imperial symbols aswell as CCCP ones…since they were the good guys…eh…  
Why is not the US flag removed aswell, since you know…they eradicated allmost 2 whole cities of civillians to test their new toys…and the English ones for torching whole cities populations alive?

Yeah..i bet the old CCCP states REALLY love the hammer and sickle, for example..

Hiding such symbols, just make THEM stronger.  
Staying in denial, makes YOUweaker.

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**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 12:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/131 "2019-02-06T00:27:00Z")

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> [@Redstripe101](#):
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> [EA statement on Battlefield franchise](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ea-statement-on-battlefield-franchise/106509)
> 
> new thread up. looks like my assumed criteria for failure is pretty spot on.
> 
> thanks

LOL, well it didn’t take a rocket genius. Many of us knew this would happen. Do you think they’re gonna abandon this game?

I mean they sold it half price, and even that ot couldn’t sell, and on xbox i think Mafia 2 back compatible has this game beat in the “most played” section lol. I think March may be it for this game.

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**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/132 "2019-02-06T00:40:00Z")

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> [@Redstripe101](#):
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> > [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#):
> >
> > > [@Redstripe101](#):
> > >
> > > [EA statement on Battlefield franchise](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ea-statement-on-battlefield-franchise/106509)
> > > 
> > > new thread up. looks like my assumed criteria for failure is pretty spot on.
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > 
> > LOL, well it didn’t take a rocket genius. Many of us knew this would happen. Do you think they’re gonna abandon this game?
> > 
> > I mean they sold it half price, and even that ot couldn’t sell, and on xbox i think Mafia 2 back compatible has this game beat in the “most played” section lol. I think March may be it for this game.
> 
> it took rocket like science to convince the reason this thread is on page 18. i knew it from launch. it’ll be RIP in another year.

Oh, well you’re talking about the blind fandom, but i think we obviously knew better than that lol. You also know our friend Loqtrall is still going to come on here and try and convince us a mere nickel adds up to 50 cents lol.

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**Author:** ![Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/khronikos/32/102498_2.png) [@Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Khronikos)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/133 "2019-02-06T01:50:00Z")

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Sales were a touch over 7 million apparently. Which is really bad considering all the hype BF1 built for this franchise. EA of course will just be on to the next soon enough, but if this was a proper WW2 with a ton of content this would have been at 15m in no time at all. They had to murder their revenue to get to 7m.

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**Author:** ![kjgregoire](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kjgregoire/32/106852_2.png) [@kjgregoire](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kjgregoire)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/134 "2019-02-06T02:46:00Z")

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Idk I’m having fun.

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**Author:** ![OverLord01a](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/e68b1a/32.png) [@OverLord01a](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OverLord01a)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/135 "2019-02-06T03:49:00Z")

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I wasn’t surprised at all by this news. But the naysayers on here couldn’t see the light till now.

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**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/136 "2019-02-06T03:53:00Z")

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> [@OverLord01a](#):
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> I wasn’t surprised at all by this news. But the naysayers on here couldn’t see the light till now.

They still can’t see it, if you go by Reddit, which DICE does…

[https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/anjd87/ea\_q3\_earnings\_call\_battlefield\_5\_did\_not\_meet\_q3/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/anjd87/ea_q3_earnings_call_battlefield_5_did_not_meet_q3/)

These are the folks they listen too, which is probably why the game failed.

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**Author:** ![Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/khronikos/32/102498_2.png) [@Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Khronikos)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/137 "2019-02-07T15:56:00Z")

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> [@kjgregoire](#):
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> Idk I’m having fun.

I did in fact have fun when I was playing. But after whatever amount of hours I can’t even turn on the game anymore. I don’t want to play squad Conquest. I don’t even want to play the game. Now I paid 40 dollars, and I don’t really feel robbed or anything, but this game could have been THE WW2 game man. I play COD WW2 more right now because it is more fun earning the skins and playing an arena shooter on tons of maps.

What I wanted from BF was a super realistic WW2 aesthetic with a bunch of big maps and a great UI that made me feel like I was in WW2. We got none of this.

The UI in BFV still makes me puke it is so bad. Every time I boot it up that girl on the cover with blue and pink makes me want to barf. In that way COD WW2 is much much better with cooler uniforms, cooler gun skins, et cetera. It’s a damn shame because with another year and some patience/polish this game would have been a massive hit.

I have no faith at all in EA anymore, and I honestly hope their stock keeps tanking. They won’t change if their stock doesn’t change. I hope Anthem fails miserably. Dice is not the same as they were, and it is clear to me anyway they had a lot of talent leave.

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**Author:** ![Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/khronikos/32/102498_2.png) [@Khronikos](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Khronikos)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/138 "2019-02-07T16:03:00Z")

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> [@CHAMMOND1992](#):
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> > [@Khronikos](#):
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> > Anthem is sure lighting the fires up lol. Looks like another unfinished game is finding its way into consumer’s hands. Enough is enough at some point. EA literally does not even bother to have a semblance of finished games anymore. This is not okay really.
> 
> Nice way to foreshadow your eventual purchase.

Sorry to tell you this but I have absolutely 0 time for another EA game. This game will most likely not be purchased at all until it is free on PS Plus. I have way too much going on. Plus I already have three EA games. I literally have no interest in Anthem whatsoever but thanks.

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**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/139 "2019-02-08T13:18:00Z")

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> [@Khronikos](#):
>
> > [@CHAMMOND1992](#):
> >
> > > [@Khronikos](#):
> > >
> > > Anthem is sure lighting the fires up lol. Looks like another unfinished game is finding its way into consumer’s hands. Enough is enough at some point. EA literally does not even bother to have a semblance of finished games anymore. This is not okay really.
> > 
> > Nice way to foreshadow your eventual purchase.
> 
> Sorry to tell you this but I have absolutely 0 time for another EA game. This game will most likely not be purchased at all until it is free on PS Plus. I have way too much going on. Plus I already have three EA games. I literally have no interest in Anthem whatsoever but thanks.

See you when Anthem comes out.

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**Author:** ![FookDat](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/fookdat/32/101978_2.png) [@FookDat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/FookDat)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-game-is-a-sinking-ship-the-deluxe-content-is-utterly-embarrassing/106423/140 "2019-02-08T13:21:00Z")

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I did not purchase Deluxe for the content, I purchase deluxe to play early and closed alpha and open beta with two week early access. Not happy about still testing the game for release though. Too many things missing from the game at launch to call it a launch. Really an ongoing beta test.

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