# This game's gonna be unplayable for the next couple of weeks

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 21, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609 "2020-11-21T21:28:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![steampunch1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@steampunch1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/steampunch1)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/1 "2020-11-21T21:28:00Z")

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That’s the bare minimum time I give until the new players realize that there are other weapons than the M1 Garand and other classes than assault. I’ve been killed by the same three guns so many times that I can recognize the gunfire instantly. What’s that? Four Garands around the corner? Time to leave!

It’s just exhausting. I want to enjoy the game, and you get fun moments, but it’s all ruined by the downright bad balance. At this point even Fromsoft is better at game balance, and that’s just sad.

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**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/2 "2020-11-21T22:28:00Z")

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You are mad that everyone is using a mid tier gun?

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**Author:** ![CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@CSO7777](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CSO7777)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/3 "2020-11-21T22:29:00Z")

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> [@steampunch1](#):
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> That’s the bare minimum time I give until the new players realize that there are other weapons than the M1 Garand and other classes than assault. I’ve been killed by the same three guns so many times that I can recognize the gunfire instantly. What’s that? Four Garands around the corner? Time to leave!
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> It’s just exhausting. I want to enjoy the game, and you get fun moments, but it’s all ruined by the downright ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ bad balance. At this point even Fromsoft is better at game balance, and that’s just sad.

I don’t really get what you are trying to say. The M1 is not really special or OP in any way (at least not on PC) and there are better guns around.

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**Author:** ![steampunch1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@steampunch1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/steampunch1)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/4 "2020-11-21T22:42:00Z")

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> [@CSO7777](#):
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> > [@steampunch1](#):
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> > That’s the bare minimum time I give until the new players realize that there are other weapons than the M1 Garand and other classes than assault. I’ve been killed by the same three guns so many times that I can recognize the gunfire instantly. What’s that? Four Garands around the corner? Time to leave!
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> > It’s just exhausting. I want to enjoy the game, and you get fun moments, but it’s all ruined by the downright ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ bad balance. At this point even Fromsoft is better at game balance, and that’s just sad.
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> I don’t really get what you are trying to say. The M1 is not really special or OP in any way (at least not on PC) and there are better guns around.

I play on console, but the issue with M1 is it’s insanely great in 1v1. Perhaps even the best gun in the game in 1v1 because of its accuracy, damage, low recoil, and range. So, when every other new player is using it, it becomes nightmarish to get a kill. When any given dude is using it on his own he suffers against multiple players, but when several people together are using it, that’s not the case.

Frankly I don’t get how you can say the M1 isn’t OP in any case. There can be better guns around and it can still be OP. It’s special in that it has super good accuracy, low recoil, three hits to kill, and great range. Even its low ammo capacity is nullified by staying at mid-range where it excels and you can reload in relative safety. Hell, it has a better reload than many other SARs that do the individual bullet thing.

The Assault part is it’s own monster. That class should get a gold star in awful balance.

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**Author:** ![DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/davtan/32/101656_2.png) [@DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DavTan)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 9:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/5 "2020-11-22T09:41:00Z")

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Hardly ever see it or get killed by it, goodness me, the things that " exhaust " some people or " ruin the fun " for them is mind bogglingly pathetic to me.  
Put it this way, I think you’re exaggerating or you need to get some perspective on matters.  
Just my opinion.

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**Author:** ![tempo\_rarity](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@tempo\_rarity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tempo_rarity)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/6 "2020-11-22T12:26:00Z")

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Sorry but . . . Respect to _anyone_ who runs around in a world filled with automatics without one themselves .  
Slightly under-confident and overly-cautious Garand user , meet way over-confident and non-cautious Automatic user .

Truly , upon re-inspection , this complaint(?) also now reads more like a positive advert selling the M1 Garand than a negative report against it .  
To this I say : Congratulations! You’ve rekindled a love affair started way back on the shores of Battle Of Britain and the sands of El Alamein .

Today I’m calling up my old fave the Garand and asking it out on a date or two or three .  
I’m hoping it still likes me .

. . . by the way , you mentioned three guns but only exampled M1 .  
Is it possible you’ve tossed the wrong ‘stock’ into your stew?

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**Author:** ![HugoPlayNow](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/dbc845/32.png) [@HugoPlayNow](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HugoPlayNow)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/7 "2020-11-22T13:28:00Z")

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Since the update…Assault has a lot less guns to choose from? I went to select a gun and it seemed like the list was a lot smaller.

(I play a lot but just am not good at retaining gun names and what class had what gun list)

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**Author:** ![DaMutha1](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/damutha1/32/101615_2.png) [@DaMutha1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DaMutha1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/8 "2020-11-22T16:28:00Z")

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No, they have not changed the list of guns. My lovely Turner remains right where it was.

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**Author:** ![MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MrCamp121](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MrCamp121)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/9 "2020-11-22T22:18:00Z")

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> [@tempo\_rarity](#):
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> Sorry but . . . Respect to anyone who runs around in a world filled with automatics without one themselves .  
> Slightly under-confident and overly-cautious Garand user , meet way over-confident and non-cautious Automatic user .
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> Truly , upon re-inspection , this complaint(?) also now reads more like a positive advert selling the M1 Garand than a negative report against it .  
> To this I say : Congratulations! You’ve rekindled a love affair started way back on the shores of Battle Of Britain and the sands of El Alamein .
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> Today I’m calling up my old fave the Garand and asking it out on a date or two or three .  
> I’m hoping it still likes me .
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> . . . by the way , you mentioned three guns but only exampled M1 .  
> Is it possible you’ve tossed the wrong ‘stock’ into your stew?

SARS dont take any skill…theres only vertical recoil which is barely a thing anyway. So…not really sure what your point is regarding that. In fact a lot of people i know hate SAR users with a passion since theyre so easy to use

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**Author:** ![steampunch1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@steampunch1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/steampunch1)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/10 "2020-11-23T00:30:00Z")

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> [@DavTan](#):
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> Hardly ever see it or get killed by it, goodness me, the things that " exhaust " some people or " ruin the fun " for them is mind bogglingly pathetic to me.  
> Put it this way, I think you’re exaggerating or you need to get some perspective on matters.  
> Just my opinion.

Constantly see it and get killed by it, goodness me, the things that “don’t bother” some people or “aren’t a problem” for them is mind bogglingly stupid to me.  
Put it this way, I think you’re understating or you need to get some perspective on matters.  
Just my opinion.

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**Author:** ![xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xkusagamix/32/104118_2.png) [@xKusagamix](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xKusagamix)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/11 "2020-11-23T01:33:00Z")

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> [@steampunch1](#):
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> > [@DavTan](#):
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> > Hardly ever see it or get killed by it, goodness me, the things that " exhaust " some people or " ruin the fun " for them is mind bogglingly pathetic to me.  
> > Put it this way, I think you’re exaggerating or you need to get some perspective on matters.  
> > Just my opinion.
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> Constantly see it and get killed by it, goodness me, the things that “don’t bother” some people or “aren’t a problem” for them is mind bogglingly stupid to me.  
> Put it this way, I think you’re understating or you need to get some perspective on matters.  
> Just my opinion.

The M1 Garand isn’t OPed, it’s not even good at CQC.

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**Author:** ![DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/davtan/32/101656_2.png) [@DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DavTan)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/12 "2020-11-23T09:03:00Z")

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> [@steampunch1](#):
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> (Quote)  
> Constantly see it and get killed by it, goodness me, the things that “don’t bother” some people or “aren’t a problem” for them is mind bogglingly stupid to me.  
> Put it this way, I think you’re understating or you need to get some perspective on matters.  
> Just my opinion.

LOL, touche’ . Don’t matter how you flip it though I’m pretty sure the general consensus is against your opinion . One gun making the game unplayable ( with some sort of magic prediction of a week), reducing your fun to just moments and exhausting you is a good example of hyperbole.

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**Author:** ![Daytonaflyer](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9de0a6/32.png) [@Daytonaflyer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Daytonaflyer)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/13 "2020-11-23T09:24:00Z")

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I agree completely. The m1 garand is way overpowered and overused by noobs.

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**Author:** ![BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BeastofBourbon84)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/14 "2020-11-23T09:27:00Z")

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Semis are strong yes but the garand is actually one of the worst imo.

Respect to anyone that uses it with irons.

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**Author:** ![JamieCurnock](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/9f8e36/32.png) [@JamieCurnock](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JamieCurnock)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/15 "2020-11-23T09:31:00Z")

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I’ve been killed a lot by it recently, a real noticeable rise in people using them on xbox that I’ve seen. I don’t really understand why though as it isn’t anything special, plenty of better guns around.

I have noticed quite a few people using this gun with what feels like a far higher rate of fire than could be achieved with a controller though, I suspect an increase in m&k users hammering that mouse to get quicker fire rate or using a chronus max to max out the fire rate.

Just a guess but it does this guns does feel more visible over the past month.

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**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/16 "2020-11-23T13:23:00Z")

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> [@Daytonaflyer](#):
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> I agree completely. The m1 garand is way overpowered and overused by noobs.

Until they find Karabin

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**Author:** ![BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BeastofBourbon84)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/17 "2020-11-23T14:54:00Z")

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Meh Karabin is just a worse g43 😛

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**Author:** ![123loreni](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/c0e974/32.png) [@123loreni](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/123loreni)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/18 "2020-11-23T15:47:00Z")

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> [@BeastofBourbon84](#):
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> Meh Karabin is just a worse g43 😛

best rifles - selbstlader for high damage and AG for quickness/high ROF.

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**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/19 "2020-11-23T16:06:00Z")

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> [@BeastofBourbon84](#):
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> Meh Karabin is just a worse g43 😛

Really? I thought it was a better g43 after the patches

> [@123loreni](#):
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> > [@BeastofBourbon84](#):
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> > Meh Karabin is just a worse g43 😛
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> best rifles - selbstlader for high damage and AG for quickness/high ROF.

I had forgoten about those.

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**Author:** ![BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BeastofBourbon84)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 5:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/this-games-gonna-be-unplayable-for-the-next-couple-of-weeks/107609/20 "2020-11-23T17:30:00Z")

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> [@Hawxxeye](#):
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> Really? I thought it was a better g43 after the patches

Tbh they are very similar to each other.  
But the g43 gets detachable mag instead of faster reload and more importantly the “blued” wood furniture 😉

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