Yep, but that seems where they’re going. I hope they don’t, but guess we’ll see.
Will be the final nail in the coffin of that Game.
what’s the matter?
did you expect even the smallest portion of historical correctness from DICE?
sry. you’re wrong, then.
I don’t agree with the comments that Infinite Warfare would have spelled doom for a near future BF. BF2142 was a good game with some modern updates a BF2143 could have been pulled off. It didn’t need wall running exo suit kill bots, we have Titan Fall 2 for that.
While I personally hated the hover tank in BF4 I’m sure they could have pulled off.
Hm, well that’s not what i said at all there. Are you talking about my other comment on what COD wanted to do? I think that’s probably what you mean, but over there we saw the reaction to their trailer. It’s obvious maybe COD wanted to go there, but the folks who play the game didn’t. But that’s not to say it didn’t sell, it did, but certainly not to their expectations.
As far as BF going to that, which is a total different question, i think they’d be crazy given the multitude, even inundation with sci fi shooters on current gen consoles. Which is to say, they already have Anthem, or Apex, or Titanfall etc.
So they haven’t even figured out how they’re going to bring the Russians into the game yet, might be skins, might be a new faction… Yikes. Any question as to whether games as a service was a good idea has been answered, it’s a horrible idea as the game developer needs to make no commitment to future content. What a downer, DICE is just making it up as they go.
Sir, i have to say i’m a bit taken back (i’m saying this sincerely). You’ve been an ardent fan of this franchise, are usually outspoken about it. We don’t agree on all issues, but seeing your posts of late, particularly after this latest update, you seem very pessimistic as to this game, and in fact DICE and BF’s future.
This particular issue, as mentioned by you and others, just another huge blow.
Given your wit about these matters, what do you think the future of this franchise looks like going forward?
This game is not as unsuccessful from a sales standpoint as many are making it. It’s just not as well as other BF’s. Westie did a video on the subject. You should check it out, it’s fairly new and on his YouTube Channel.
No no I was just making a general comment and yes I had forgotten to include Apex into the statement. I still can’t install that. Grrrrr.
An Apex style BFV could be a little too Titanfallish I will admit.
Respectfully, Westie is a bonehead and a paid advertiser for EA. Did he mention the game sold 7 million…at HALF PRICE ??? And still couldn’t meet it’s mark. So, that’s very bad. Particularly when those who did buy it, now ranks BF V number 21 most played games at Xbox…at half price.
I’m just saying I don’t think it’s done so poorly that they are going to start pulling resources and content. If they do I am going to raise hell. It’ll mean I’m be done with BF, and Dice.
They wont add new factions thats for sure.
Link?
Well, if you have a game that has to be cut half price out of the gate, and, no Premium that seemingly doubles the price of a full priced game, they took i feel an unsustainable hit.
I mean hell, we were talking about Activision, and BO 4 hit record sales. But, they know they were gonna hit record sales given emerging markets, and new gamers. It always happens. The question though, was those record sales their “expectations”, and that’s the key word.
Where as, that’s what companies base their future investments on, and BO 4, and other titles there missed the cut. And so even with record profits, 800 folks got the pink slips. And the reason why stocks went up after that news, is investors felt those layoffs could mitigate their losses of future investments.
So, in short, DICE is in a very bad place, and more so, in that APEX is doing extremely well, and giving EA their momentum. And the problem comes when EA has to decide where to allocate funds, or if in fact, another DICE title may send investors running for cover, and dumping stocks, being it may ruin the momentum.
So, we just have to see, but i wouldn’t listen to Westie by a long shot lol. I go to him if i want to see what new content is on the drawing board. Not in how a game may be doing, or his opinions about games.
Your right, they are in a tough spot. The powers that be can either stick with it, and try to salvage this thing in order to retain their customer base, or in Dice’s case lose this part of the market. There a ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ton of people who want to play period shooters and shooters in general. If they back out now someone else will step in and steal this part of the market for console players.
If I were a smart business owner or investor i’d be looking at this situation very closely. May already be making plans. Hell, Dice would have already done the heavy lifting for them. Can you say instant market, and basic game structure? They could just make a complete copy of bf4 and place it in any setting, and win big time.
Well who knows, maybe Apex can be good news, if EA wants use resources from that fortune (but, we’ll have to wait to see what happens there), and put it towards DICE studios. That may help. So we just have to see..and hope.
I mean, if i don’t have BF, even if this title flopped, i don’t know of any war games on console i’d want to play in the future. So, lets hope it works, if not for my selfish reasons lol.
Yea man, I would be so disappointed if this completely fails. I love WW2, and period shooters more than anything.
BTW, Westie tore them a new ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ( in his nice Westie way) just today for, Combined Arms. He makes them look pretty stupid, lol.
Yeah, but that’s what i mean. Did you see how many posts there were about Combined Arms? I mean people care about the mode obviously one way or another, and obviously what he said was wrong, that it should have came out in November for noobs, and that now it’s too late.
Well, were all those posts at reddit and here, new players? No, but they were looking forward to the mode.
Westie and those you tubers, want to END sp. That’s what they’re about, and in DICE listening their counsel, has quite frankly killed this game.
So DICE should shut them out of any decision making.
Like i said, it’s good to go there, to see what upcoming dlc may be, and release dates and things like that.
But reviews, and certainly sales info, is totally out of bounds with them with me. EA is a 14 billion dollar company. To rely on wet behind the ears twenty something you tubers for advertising, or to make decisions based on their counsel, is just assanine. But these are just my opinions.
This sucks… very nervous about the future of this game
I’ve never been bashful about slamming DICE/EA when I think they deserve it (that a few folks here have called me an EA apologist is hilarious given some things I’ve said about that company over the years). That I’ve been defending DICE and BFV so far is largely because of how absurd many of the complaints about the game have been, some have amounted to theatrical nonsense. It’s one thing to complain about the ridiculous fact that a round can begin with twice as many players on one team as the other, there is no excuse for that in any game much less one from an AAA studio. But some of the hysteria we see here–DICE hates Medics, DICE hates Recons, DICE hates Supports and they’re now completely useless!–it’s laughably foolish.
But yes, my confidence is being shaken. That a patch supposed to address the poor network performance has been ineffective is troubling, I’ve seen no improvement at all in terms of shot-stacking etc. That doesn’t mean I’m uninstalling and hiring a voodoo priestess to put a curse on DICE/EA. I’m still playing, still having fun. But this is reminding me of BF4 where EA had to turn over some of the repair work to DICE LA and Visceral because DICE Sweden just wasn’t up to the job. Seriously, how can a flagship title like BF not include an AFK kicker for players who don’t spawn in an entire round? How can the netcode have become worse than in previous titles? How did that horrible UI make it into a retail release? Some of this can be chalked up to EA releasing BFV before it was ready, but some of it also seems to be DICE being less competent than we would like.
If the next couple of patches make significant improvements then I’ll probably be here for the two years I think EA wants this game to survive (I’m convinced they want it dead and buried the day BF6 launches which is why they won’t offer rented servers). But some of the friends I’ve been playing with seem to be drifting away a bit, and since online gaming is largely a social activity for me that will affect my participation too.
For me, the jury is still out. I’m prepared to wait awhile and see where BFV goes (I rebuilt my PC for this game so I have to play something to justify that cost). But if DICE continues to fumble around like they don’t really have a plan or the capability to do what needs doing, well, there are always home improvement projects my wife thinks need my attention.