# Thoughts from an old gamer

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 22, 2020, 2:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359 "2020-06-22T02:17:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/41 "2020-06-25T19:30:00Z")

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> [@TFBisquit](#):
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> Good old days of soldier of fortune. The typical ragdoll effect was always fun after killing one of the punks and dismember it piece by piece. Ofcourse there was the occasional baddy that came half a minute later around the corner, like the devs anticipated people would keep on shooting at the dead body at that spot.The pools of blood from shogo mobile armor division, that dripped away or got bigger when you looked at it. The enemies behaving like being electrocuted when you emptied your uzi into them. To stop when you stopped firing.  
> Ofcourse the perception of 20 years ago is the same as today in games, with the exception that we are now used to better graphics and more natural movement.  
> As for gore and brutality in general, that crown is still held by mw2 airport scene, at least on my list. After that it got toned down bit by bit by most games, I suspect companies realised adults that play these games have kids, that play too on dad’s pc.Ofcourse we also had the carmaggedon thing back then, which also didn’t help on the gore department.

Man I loved Carmageddon too. I can still remember installing the patch to turn the zombies back in to people. Plus that No Russian scene in MW2 is definitely up there too, you’re right about that.

Ah sweet memories.

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**Author:** ![HugoPlayNow](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/dbc845/32.png) [@HugoPlayNow](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HugoPlayNow)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/42 "2020-06-27T15:55:00Z")

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IMO the BF series as a whole has the best “feel” over any other FPS. Something about the graphics, the X, the sound when you get a hit is perfection.

I’m also amazed at how different the opinions are as to which is the best in the series. I thought BF1 was absolute perfection, and expected BFv to be similar but just a different war. My dissapointment in BF5 is not with the general feel, but how mines and rocket launchers are so ineffective…especially against tanks. AP mines are useless…why plant an AP mine if it is going to just tickle the ankles?!?

Also…Some maps are too bland, but the Pacific Theater launched some great maps and the addition to sea craft helped a lot. I played just Pacific for weeks on end. I am enjoying BF5 more especially since BF1 lobby is shrinking badly.

FWIW I play on XB1…I might have a “disadvantage” with the controller, but I have no cheater complaints and can play in a comfortable position with my feet up instead of hunched over a desk with mouse and keyboard…that sounds like hell to me.

I look forward to BF6 warts and all. The whole series has a feel no other has. I just hope they combine the best of all the series into it.

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**Author:** ![TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@TFBisquit](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TFBisquit)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/43 "2020-06-27T16:09:00Z")

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> [@clouseau2112](#):
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> So typical…
> 
> This thread totally turned into a BFV Bash, lol.  
> And really Mr. Veteran OP, how much time do you even have in BFV?? Thought so.
> 
> I’ll bet 75% of all who replied are PC platform, and your complaints have to do with cheating/hacking.
> 
> We all miss the old days of BF2 Bad Company, etc., etc.., but let’s be honest here. BFV is pretty much better looking and functioning than any other FPS out there that can support 64 players, a myriad of vehicles, and destructible environments.
> 
> If y’all hate it that much, find a new game, and a new forum.
> 
> It’s all about adapting, and overcoming, teamwork, communication and practice.
> 
> \*End of Rant

Ah, I played ken uston on the coleco vision from “Adams” , that console resembled the arcade machines the most back at the time.  
but indeed, most gamers come from the pc platform, since that beat the old fashioned consoles back then. The sega mega drive fought back with sonic and the rest, giving room for ps and xbox in years to come.  
I myself never liked battlefield games but made an exception with bf2142. I did like that game, enough to buy BF3, since cod, yes cod, became copy/paste after mw2, and lacked player numbers in a round.  
In the end of the day we just want to play a militairy shooter.

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**Author:** ![trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trip1ex)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/44 "2020-06-27T17:11:00Z")

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> [@clouseau2112](#):
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> So typical…
> 
> This thread totally turned into a BFV Bash, lol.  
> And really Mr. Veteran OP, how much time do you even have in BFV?? Thought so.
> 
> I’ll bet 75% of all who replied are PC platform, and your complaints have to do with cheating/hacking.
> 
> We all miss the old days of BF2 Bad Company, etc., etc.., but let’s be honest here. BFV is pretty much better looking and functioning than any other FPS out there that can support 64 players, a myriad of vehicles, and destructible environments.
> 
> If y’all hate it that much, find a new game, and a new forum.
> 
> It’s all about adapting, and overcoming, teamwork, communication and practice.
> 
> \*End of Rant

EVery game is about adapting and overcoming and teamwork and communication. Even the bad ones.

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**Author:** ![clouseau2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/cab0a1/32.png) [@clouseau2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/clouseau2112)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/45 "2020-06-27T18:23:00Z")

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So, if I’m understanding you correctly..

A vast majority (I’m on Xbox platform btw), here on these (BFV) forums absolutely loathe BFV, or rip on it, whatever…yet here you are…ON the BFV forums continuing to bash the game…  
To what end?? Are your complaints going to change anything…maybe send a wake up call to the Dev’s…NO, they’re not.

Really…who spends time on these forums complaining constantly…sounds like a total waste of your time? Are you like trying to get more people to jump aboard your complaining ship, or what??

These forums are nothing but a complain-a-thon…

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**Author:** ![Forkbeard84](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/forkbeard84/32/101986_2.png) [@Forkbeard84](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Forkbeard84)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/46 "2020-06-27T18:45:00Z")

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> [@clouseau2112](#):
>
> So, if I’m understanding you correctly..
> 
> A vast majority (I’m on Xbox platform btw), here on these (BFV) forums absolutely loathe BFV, or rip on it, whatever…yet here you are…ON the BFV forums continuing to bash the game…  
> To what end?? Are your complaints going to change anything…maybe send a wake up call to the Dev’s…NO, they’re not.
> 
> Really…who spends time on these forums complaining constantly…sounds like a total waste of your time? Are you like trying to get more people to jump aboard your complaining ship, or what??
> 
> These forums are nothing but a complain-a-thon…

BF5 sux

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**Author:** ![clouseau2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/cab0a1/32.png) [@clouseau2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/clouseau2112)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/47 "2020-06-27T18:52:00Z")

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Ha ha…  
Great response, or lack thereof.

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**Author:** ![Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbce88/32.png) [@Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Magikf1ngers)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/48 "2020-06-27T21:35:00Z")

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> [@clouseau2112](#):
>
> So typical…
> 
> This thread totally turned into a BFV Bash, lol.  
> And really Mr. Veteran OP, how much time do you even have in BFV?? Thought so.
> 
> I’ll bet 75% of all who replied are PC platform, and your complaints have to do with cheating/hacking.
> 
> We all miss the old days of BF2 Bad Company, etc., etc.., but let’s be honest here. BFV is pretty much better looking and functioning than any other FPS out there that can support 64 players, a myriad of vehicles, and destructible environments.
> 
> If y’all hate it that much, find a new game, and a new forum.
> 
> It’s all about adapting, and overcoming, teamwork, communication and practice.
> 
> \*End of Rant

So typical - someone griping about someone griping. And now you have me doing it.

For those of us that have invested almost two decades in the franchise, we’re entitled to be able to vent our opinions on what this game has become. Yes, I’ll wager most of us are on PC, as at first, the game wasn’t on console at all, especially since the first version on XBox and PS(2 at the time, I think?) was BF2, and even then, BF2 didn’t include the expansions for the console.

Battlefield’s lost it’s vision. It’s soul. It’s something different now, pandering to COD players or something. Instead of holding on to what made this game the best, it’s trying to conform to a lesser game with COD and other competitors.

If you can’t handle the criticism, can’t handle that we ALL should be allowed to express our opinions, then maybe YOU should find a different game, and a different forums. Or go crawl into Reddit where it’s all toxic there anyway.

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**Author:** ![VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/dec6dc/32.png) [@VOLBANKER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VOLBANKER)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/49 "2020-06-28T00:16:00Z")

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> [@clouseau2112](#):
>
> So, if I’m understanding you correctly..
> 
> A vast majority (I’m on Xbox platform btw), here on these (BFV) forums absolutely loathe BFV, or rip on it, whatever…yet here you are…ON the BFV forums continuing to bash the game…  
> To what end?? Are your complaints going to change anything…maybe send a wake up call to the Dev’s…NO, they’re not.
> 
> Really…who spends time on these forums complaining constantly…sounds like a total waste of your time? Are you like trying to get more people to jump aboard your complaining ship, or what??
> 
> These forums are nothing but a complain-a-thon…

Things are not black and white. It’s possible to love playing the game and “complain” / suggest changes at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/netranger9/32/102119_2.png) [@Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Netranger9)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/50 "2020-06-28T00:21:00Z")

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> [@clouseau2112](#):
>
> So, if I’m understanding you correctly..
> 
> A vast majority (I’m on Xbox platform btw), here on these (BFV) forums absolutely loathe BFV, or rip on it, whatever…yet here you are…ON the BFV forums continuing to bash the game…  
> To what end?? Are your complaints going to change anything…maybe send a wake up call to the Dev’s…NO, they’re not.
> 
> Really…who spends time on these forums complaining constantly…sounds like a total waste of your time? Are you like trying to get more people to jump aboard your complaining ship, or what??
> 
> These forums are nothing but a complain-a-thon…

You know,in 2 decades and thousands of hours playing(all on PC),I think I am vetted enough to voice my opinion.The one thing that has turned me off BFV more than the rampant cheating is the one frame deaths.Infuriating is a word I dont use much but it describes the one frame deaths perfectly.I play to enjoy myself and with BFV all it does most of the time is make me angry(I see the enemy first,I fire first but he 1 shot killes me) and this has happened hundreds of times,for every 10 deaths I get I deserved 3 and on my screen I should have easily got the other 7.The other thing that is frustrating beyond belief is I check an area and then I turn around and get a magazine in my back from a guy that didnt exist 1 second ago(happens all the time).As for these forums,Im not going to lie - I hate them with all of my being,its the exact reason (IMO) that the world is the way it is,we are painted into a corner here and have no free speech at all basiclly.Anyway I could go on for days so ill just leave it at that.

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**Author:** ![KPNuts74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/848f3c/32.png) [@KPNuts74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KPNuts74)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/51 "2020-06-28T03:29:00Z")

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I love BFV - best gunplay & movement I’ve known in a FPS

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**Author:** ![Celsi\_GER](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/celsi_ger/32/101484_2.png) [@Celsi\_GER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Celsi_GER)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/52 "2020-06-28T07:30:00Z")

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> [@clouseau2112](#):
>
> So, if I’m understanding you correctly..
> 
> A vast majority (I’m on Xbox platform btw), here on these (BFV) forums absolutely loathe BFV, or rip on it, whatever…yet here you are…ON the BFV forums continuing to bash the game…  
> To what end?? Are your complaints going to change anything…maybe send a wake up call to the Dev’s…NO, they’re not.
> 
> Really…who spends time on these forums complaining constantly…sounds like a total waste of your time? Are you like trying to get more people to jump aboard your complaining ship, or what??
> 
> These forums are nothing but a complain-a-thon…

At least we are talking about **the game** (in the game’s forum), while you try to psycho-analyze **us** and complain about… lol… our complaining.  
Looks like an even bigger waste of time to me…

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**Author:** ![Player\_rs688is9](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Player\_rs688is9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Player_rs688is9)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/53 "2020-06-28T09:05:00Z")

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Bf1942 was amazing, there was No talk about kd and other ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ like that and campers wasnt a thing like todays rainbow six/fortnite-generation. It was all attack and the maps were insane.

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**Author:** ![clayman2000](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@clayman2000](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/clayman2000)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/54 "2020-06-28T13:38:00Z")

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I got hooked on BFBC2, continued with BF 3 and 4. Great games! I was close to quit BC2 after a while cause i got killed all the time and couldnt keep up. Then i joined the UXF forums and met a bunch of great people and gamers around the world. They were much more skilled in BF than me, but they let me squad up with them and kept me alive! 😁 In return i provided them with support mostly and learned how to get points without having a high K/D. Great times!  
To bad the forum died out with the declining BF H and BF 1.  
Im having fun with BF 5 though and feel free to add me on Xbox(Clayman2000) im i Europe (Sweden) and play alot better with mic and a good squad!  
Im 45 years young​😊

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**Author:** ![Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/netranger9/32/102119_2.png) [@Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Netranger9)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/55 "2020-06-29T08:28:00Z")

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> [@KPNuts74](#):
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> I love BFV - best gunplay & movement I’ve known in a FPS

Have you taken your meds today mate??,lol.

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**Author:** ![KPNuts74](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/848f3c/32.png) [@KPNuts74](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KPNuts74)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/56 "2020-06-29T08:54:00Z")

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> [@Netranger9](#):
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> (Quote)  
> Have you taken your meds today mate??,lol.

The view that the gunplay/movement on BFV is great is a pretty common one (certainly on console). I’m sure YouTubers such as Westie also acknowledge this.

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**Author:** ![Celsi\_GER](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/celsi_ger/32/101484_2.png) [@Celsi\_GER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Celsi_GER)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 9:23am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/57 "2020-06-29T09:23:00Z")

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It was also my opinion, gunplay and TTK are quite good now… but movement… I was annoyed by getting stuck/blocked by simple things laying on the ground before already (especially on Devastation), but since they added the stupid knee sliding, I am not happy with the movement anymore.

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**Author:** ![Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/bbce88/32.png) [@Magikf1ngers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Magikf1ngers)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/58 "2020-06-29T19:18:00Z")

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> [@Celsi\_GER](#):
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> It was also my opinion, gunplay and TTK are quite good now… but movement… I was annoyed by getting stuck/blocked by simple things laying on the ground before already (especially on Devastation), but since they added the stupid knee sliding, I am not happy with the movement anymore.

The getting stuck on small things has been a problem since day 1 with Frostbite. (It’s also an issue with Source - but that’s a different story).

The slide thing is a ridiculous add that shouldn’t be there. Neither should the sprint while crouched. (Has anyone ever tried to sprint while crouched? It doesn’t work. Bent over at the waist maybe, but that presents a different target than sprinting while crouched does.)

There’s a lot of good in Frostbite, but a lot of broken stuff as well.

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**Author:** ![Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/netranger9/32/102119_2.png) [@Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Netranger9)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/59 "2020-06-29T22:51:00Z")

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> [@KPNuts74](#):
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> > [@Netranger9](#):
> >
> > (Quote)  
> > Have you taken your meds today mate??,lol.
> 
> The view that the gunplay/movement on BFV is great is a pretty common one (certainly on console). I’m sure YouTubers such as Westie also acknowledge this.

Yeah I have to agree with some thought,the gunplay is good.Sorry for getting in your face,the day I had wasnt real good.

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**Author:** ![aarp-19Crib](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@aarp-19Crib](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aarp-19Crib)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/thoughts-from-an-old-gamer/258359/60 "2020-06-29T23:14:00Z")

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It would go a long way on cheating if EA would brag about cheaters banned, threaten cheaters, and do something to let us straight players know that EA cares. Just because you are afraid of admitting that cheaters flock here like buzzards to a road kill, what exactly are you afraid of?

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