# Tips from a Medic Main (Stop Complaining!)

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/tips-from-a-medic-main-stop-complaining/253987>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 6, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/tips-from-a-medic-main-stop-complaining/253987 "2018-12-06T02:16:00Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/tips-from-a-medic-main-stop-complaining/253987/21 "2018-12-06T04:19:00Z")

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VindictiVagabond wrote: [»](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/tips-from-a-medic-main-stop-complaining/253987/5)  
Gotta copy paste, couldn’t be bothered to repeat the facts for a 10th time.

The 2 problems SMGs have:

- ARs, LMGs and MGs all kill with 4 bullets at 10m and less which is exactly the same as SMGs. Thing is, SMGs (excluding thompson and suomi, which can’t hit anything reliably and in a decent TTK past like 12-15m), have a lower RoF therefore their TTK is higher and worse than ARs, LMGs and MGs which means SMGs are outDPSed in THEIR OWN (supposedly intended) NICHE. That is really poor balance. ARs, LMGs and MGs need to all have their TTK and BTK increased in CQC to give SMGs their niche back.
- Considering all bf5 maps so far reward a lot more medium range intended weapons, medics have no good option for medium range. 5 BTK up to 30m while everybody else (ARs, LMGs and MGs) all have 5BTK up to 50m. Slower RoF SMGs (ie: Sten, MP34, EMP and MP40) need to have an accuracy buff (SIPS reduction) while also having their 5BTK range extended from 30 to at the very least 40m. Also, their 6BTK range moved back (from 30-50m) to 40-60m. Essentially just push back their BTK increments by 10m to each. That will give a reason to use slower RoF SMGs and give medics a chance at medium range without making them OP. Even with this buff, ARs, LMGs and MGs will still outshine SMGs at medium and longer ranges because SMGs will take between 6 to 8 shots (16,7; 14,28 and 13 damage per bullet respectively) to kill past 40m while all the other categories will be 5 BTK up to 50m, then 6 BTK onward (minimum damage for ARs and LMGs/MGs: 17 and 18.5 respectively).

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