# Too many cheaters **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 10, 2017, 6:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823 "2017-01-10T06:19:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kenyi85](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ce73a5/32.png) [@Kenyi85](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kenyi85)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 6:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/1 "2017-01-10T06:19:00Z")
I went out and spent a lot of money on a gaming laptop only to get discouraged by the cheating on the battlefield 1 PC platform. Would anyone agree that the PS4 platform for battlefield 1 would have less cheaters ? From what i can tell the graphics are just as good as the PC and i hear that there is far less cheating on PS4. Seems the PC version of this game is ruined . Dice could give a dam except when it came to taking my money for the Ultimate version of this game which became a waste because of all the cheat and hackers. All you have to do is google : battlefield 1 cheats and a lot sites come up claiming undetectable cheats and hacks. ---
**Author:** ![DINGRAWR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingrawr/32/101729_2.png) [@DINGRAWR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DINGRAWR)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/2 "2016-12-30T15:07:00Z")
We need stop spending money on it till they fix it, or to we switch to PS4 … ---
**Author:** ![ZJbrandon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zjbrandon/32/104195_2.png) [@ZJbrandon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ZJbrandon)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/3 "2016-12-30T16:34:00Z")
we need rental servers that can ban/kick, when? if it happens, and we rent, we will have low tolerance for this crap! ---
**Author:** ![H0WDidThatHappen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@H0WDidThatHappen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/H0WDidThatHappen)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/4 "2016-12-30T16:42:00Z")
Cheating is indeed a huge problem and just like you I’m playing FPS games for a while now and they’re easy to spot. I’ve made a post here in this thread what kind of cheats exist and what they do in a game like this - forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/75131/cheating-am-i-not-paying-attention-or-people-are-just-terribly-paranoid/p2 And if you read the thread you will see a lot of people are completely unaware what kind of cheats they use and just think a cheater is only running with a aimbot killing everyone continously. But the most used cheat isn’t even the aimbot, it’s ESP (wallhack) and no-spread/no-recoil wich is much harder to see for most players, and at the moment nothing is checking it. FairFight is only looking at the player stats for stuff that isn’t possible, and those cheaters are even openly discussing on their forums how to avoid getting caught when they use a triggerbot.. This is really bad for the game and I can not understand how EA/DICE have let it come to this, it’s not like they don’t know cheaters exist, Blizzard is banning them from Overwatch, Valve is banning them from Counter Strike and even their earlier Battlefield games had cheaters, clan servers used anti-cheat plugins to keep them out ffs.. So wtf are they thinking just relying now on FF? ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Axlerod1)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/5 "2016-12-30T17:13:00Z")
forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/77576/about-fairfight-error-ban-wrong-ban-or-there-are-people-who-have-been-mistaken-for-ban#latest ---
**Author:** ![GAMING\_TROOPER](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gaming_trooper/32/102037_2.png) [@GAMING\_TROOPER](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GAMING_TROOPER)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/6 "2016-12-30T17:40:00Z")
**Since they lowered the price over xmas i seen loads cheating in this game mainly no recoil hacks and esp noobs but for the life of me why has there never been a proper sit down discussion between us and dice on how to solve this issue properly once and for all ?** ---
**Author:** ![SkilletBurn](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/skilletburn/32/103508_2.png) [@SkilletBurn](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SkilletBurn)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/7 "2016-12-30T18:27:00Z")
> [@GAMING\_TROOPER](#): > > **Since they lowered the price over xmas i seen loads cheating in this game mainly no recoil hacks and esp noobs but for the life of me why has there never been a proper sit down discussion between us and dice on how to solve this issue properly once and for all ?** Just a quick guess..Because Dice could give a rats . ---
**Author:** ![lurkios](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@lurkios](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lurkios)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/8 "2016-12-30T18:35:00Z")
What cheaters? You getting outplayed doesn’t mean someone else cheated - it means they’re better than you. It happens. Get over it. : In nearly 140 hours I’ve seen 3, maybe 4 cheaters - and all were banned in relatively short order. ---
**Author:** ![Braunwulf](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/braunwulf/32/101409_2.png) [@Braunwulf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Braunwulf)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/9 "2016-12-30T18:47:00Z")
You’ve seen 3-4 obvious hackers, but you don’t see the countless ones going under the radar with cheats like ESP, Recoil reduction, Dmg modifiers, etc. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/10 "2016-12-30T19:00:00Z")
> [@Braunwulf](#): > > You’ve seen 3-4 obvious hackers, but you don’t see the countless ones going under the radar with cheats like ESP, Recoil reduction, Dmg modifiers, etc. Dmg modifiers are quite easy to spot though. ---
**Author:** ![lurkios](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@lurkios](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lurkios)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/11 "2016-12-30T19:25:00Z")
> [@Braunwulf](#): > > You’ve seen 3-4 obvious hackers, but you don’t see the countless ones going under the radar with cheats like ESP, Recoil reduction, Dmg modifiers, etc. I feel like those things should be pretty noticeable. If they’re not, and I am somehow missing them - who cares? If it’s so subtle I can’t tell there’s not much harm in it. Maybe it just makes it feel like I’m playing against cognitively competent adults instead of children. ---
**Author:** ![NEGAHN](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/negahn/32/102931_2.png) [@NEGAHN](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NEGAHN)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/12 "2016-12-30T19:34:00Z")
I agree with you. I have videos of people obviously cheating (damage multiplier and trough wall shots), but also a few vids where the cheating cant be proofed, like no spread or killer map awreness. Yet, check 2 of my vids on my youtube channel (cant link them directly because rules). [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdTkBroFaDb5Tu1vPTzV5mA](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdTkBroFaDb5Tu1vPTzV5mA) ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Axlerod1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Axlerod1)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/13 "2016-12-30T20:52:00Z")
> [@lurkios](#): > > What cheaters? You getting outplayed doesn’t mean someone else cheated - it means they’re better than you. It happens. Get over it. > : > In nearly 140 hours I’ve seen 3, maybe 4 cheaters - and all were banned in relatively short order. Then you must be blind. I can not play a round without seeing 3 to 4 hackers getting banned. ---
**Author:** ![trig0tron](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trig0tron/32/103885_2.png) [@trig0tron](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trig0tron)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/14 "2016-12-30T21:08:00Z")
> [@ROTCrazytrain1](#): > > been playing bf since bf 1942 ,so thats about 15 years now and i know a cheater when i see one,but nothing makes me mad more then losing because of one,So when these guys go 117 and 4 on foot its like they have 2 to 3 extra players on there team,just lost a game a few minutes ago 991 to 1000 , something has got to be done or first person shooters will be dead soon,because its making me want to quit all together,we need to be able to kick these players.. Just go into Spectator mode and watch them. When they do something AMAZING, chim in across chat as Spectator and become their biggest cheerleader. Egging them on.. The server will eventually catch on. ---
**Author:** ![trig0tron](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trig0tron/32/103885_2.png) [@trig0tron](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trig0tron)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/15 "2016-12-30T21:19:00Z")
> [@lurkios](#): > > > [@Braunwulf](#): > > > > You’ve seen 3-4 obvious hackers, but you don’t see the countless ones going under the radar with cheats like ESP, Recoil reduction, Dmg modifiers, etc. > > I feel like those things should be pretty noticeable. If they’re not, _ **and I am somehow missing them - who cares?** _ If it’s so subtle I can’t tell there’s not much harm in it. Maybe it just makes it feel like I’m playing against cognitively competent adults instead of children. There is no difference in cheating a little, or a lot. The only reason people “cheat a little”, is actually so they don’t get caught. But they are still illegitimate players, and should not be playing on Servers with legit players. Subsequently, if they don’t care they are hacking, then they should be forced on Servers with just hackers. Remember, cheaters uses hax because they are not good & need them. (_Otherwise rage quit_) ---
**Author:** ![Xx-Mythril-xX](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xx-mythril-xx/32/104144_2.png) [@Xx-Mythril-xX](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Xx-Mythril-xX)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/16 "2016-12-30T21:25:00Z")
I find it funny when people say they’ve only seen one cheater since playing. A ‘good’ cheater will try his or her best to hide the fact they are cheating so unless you can see his or her screen, you’d probably never know ! Spectator mode is useless. Most cheat software these days have an auto detect feature built in that detects when the cheater is being watched and automatically turns off all cheats if the user desires. This cheating in Battlefield 1 is nothing short of a cancer, and it’s spreading. I’ve seen so many in the past week it’s laughable. Granted I’ve not seen the invisible player… Yet ! What I find odd is that EA (not DICE) will do anything in their power to cover up the fact there is a major problem with cheating. Not allowing naming and shaming (with solid proof) and banning them for life is beyond me. They obviously have a business model that allows the cheater a certain amount of wiggle room (slaps on the wrist for a week - Don’t do it again). and then only after a fair amount of time do they delete them. What should be happening is a simple hardware ban. EA will not do this because the cheater will have to buy a new PC before they can have another account. No quick profit in that. So just ban their account and allow them to create another one. It’s another sale at the end of the day. The _only_ way to get our voice across to EA (and other companies saying that) is to hurt them where it hurts the most, their pockets. Once they see their profits taking a nose dive, only then will they make changes to their business model and policies. To the powers that be at EA: Ask yourself this. How would it make you feel if you knew there was a cheater or cheaters in the game you have paid good money for and next to bugger all was being done about it ? Hint: It’s not a nice feeling. You have again implemented FairFight, that’s good but it’s simply not enough. Stop thinking with your pockets and do something about it. Make the Battlefield experience enjoyable again. Be seen doing something about it. Close down the web sites that are offering cheats for your games. Or better still, have a word with other publishers/game developers out there. All put money into a pot and combat cheating together. To the powers that be at DICE: Grow a set and tell EA that you require a bigger budget to help combat this cheating issue you have in your games. Be seen doing something about it not ignoring your community. Remember it’s us that pay your wages at the end of the day. The community is asking (sometimes begging) for you to do something about combating the cheating in your game(s). Do not ignore, acknowledge it and provide answers and solutions. At least this give us faith that you are in fact doing something because at the minute it feels like you simply do not care. ---
**Author:** ![One\_Eyed\_W1LLy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/df705f/32.png) [@One\_Eyed\_W1LLy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/One_Eyed_W1LLy)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/17 "2016-12-30T21:43:00Z")
People protesting that there aren’t any/many cheater’s In BF1, and other BF game are so irritating. Because imo it’s likely these are the very people who are cheating. Years ago, when the Desert Combat mod came out for BF1942, i couldn’t understand why so many people seemed to know exactly where i was, even if i hid miles away from anything. To the point where i was convinced cheating was taking place…but couldn’t prove it. So despite the fact that i hate cheaters more than anything, and despite everyone saying “oh no, you can’t cheat in this game, it’s cheat-proof, its you, you have no skillz, stop whining” I did a quick internet search, and downloaded a hack. Now, even just using the maphack (they call it ESP now), i racked up more kills and points than i care to mention, (a truly ridiculous amount, as i was in fact an ace apache/hind helicopter pilot 😃 ) cos i could see everyone, in 3D and on the minimap. Obviously i uninstalled the hack the same day having proved my theory. After BF3 i stopped playing multiplayer games for a long time. Cos i was sick of cheating ruining a game I’d PAID FOR. I’m getting old now, and my memory is going. i’ d almost forgotten about cheating in multiplayer games, so when my girlfriend asked me what i wanted for christmas, i said “oh, get me that BF1, that looks good”. I wish she’d just got me some aftershave again tbh. Or a nice bottle of Laphroag. I simply can’t believe EA/DICE have done so little to combat cheating, in all the time since BF1942, rather than improve, the situation seems to have got worse! I can’t believe how may websites are actually openly advertising PAID FOR cheats, which you can purchase on a monthly basis! i mean, WTF? Why are EA/DICE not cracking down on these sites like the music/movie industry does with pirate music and video? I give up. Can i have my money back please?..Oh, and i went out and spent £200 on a new graphics card just to play it, can you refund that as well please. TA. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/18 "2016-12-30T21:45:00Z")
> [@Dirk\_Diggler\_SAS](#): > > People protesting that there aren’t any/many cheater’s In BF1, and other BF game are so irritating. Because imo it’s likely these are the very people who are cheating. Or.. Just bare with me a second.. ORRRRR.. They **GENUINELY** haven’t seen many ( if any ) cheaters on the servers THEY have been playing on. Your experiences in game may not always reflect how others experience their games. ---
**Author:** ![Braunwulf](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/braunwulf/32/101409_2.png) [@Braunwulf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Braunwulf)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/19 "2016-12-30T21:47:00Z")
It would cost them too much money to keep their games cheat free. It’s like they aren’t making enough money as it is. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![St0n3ymontana](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@St0n3ymontana](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/St0n3ymontana)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823/20 "2016-12-30T21:58:00Z")
> [@GAMING\_TROOPER](#): > > **Since they lowered the price over xmas i seen loads cheating in this game mainly no recoil hacks and esp noobs but for the life of me why has there never been a proper sit down discussion between us and dice on how to solve this issue properly once and for all ?** Why would anyone need a no recoil hack, there’s hardly any recoil on any of the guns. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/too-many-cheaters/102823.md?page=2)