# Trench fighter nerf in less than a week **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 19, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110 "2017-04-19T14:18:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Miles\_Vappa](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/898d66/32.png) [@Miles\_Vappa](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Miles_Vappa)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/1 "2017-04-19T14:18:00Z")
Officially unofficial by the youtuber Westie, the Spring patch is coming April 25th, and with it the trench fighter dart nerf [![Video: ► SPRING UPDATE IS COMING! - AA Buffs & Plane Nerfs - Battlefield 1](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/3/5/355d663bb9316be19f1015c5a4b1940d828bfd86.jpeg "► SPRING UPDATE IS COMING! - AA Buffs & Plane Nerfs - Battlefield 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSD8VPdj2ug) WOOOHOOOOOOOO! ---
**Author:** ![V2Face](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/v2face/32/103961_2.png) [@V2Face](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/V2Face)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/2 "2017-04-19T15:18:00Z")
Trash players rejoice your tears will now refuel attack plane pilots. ---
**Author:** ![Dogwoggle11](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dogwoggle11/32/101753_2.png) [@Dogwoggle11](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dogwoggle11)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/3 "2017-04-19T15:21:00Z")
> [@V2Face](#): > > Trash players rejoice your tears will now refuel attack plane pilots. By nerfing TF doesn’t mean the AP should be buffed. ---
**Author:** ![PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/precisionwing/32/103161_2.png) [@PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PrecisionWing)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/4 "2017-04-19T15:28:00Z")
> [@V2Face](#): > > Trash players rejoice your tears will now refuel attack plane pilots. Let’s wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![lh20122012](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lh20122012/32/102637_2.png) [@lh20122012](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lh20122012)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/5 "2017-04-19T15:33:00Z")
I’m honestly glad. The daily cry threads bug me more than the once a week I get killed by a tf. ---
**Author:** ![V2Face](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/v2face/32/103961_2.png) [@V2Face](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/V2Face)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/6 "2017-04-19T15:45:00Z")
I’m not saying it will get buffed, I’m saying once one plane gets nerfed another rises from the ashes. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_DarIing](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/captain_dariing/32/101459_2.png) [@Captain\_DarIing](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Captain_DarIing)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/7 "2017-04-19T15:48:00Z")
Still way too long. Too little changes to vehiclebalance, too late. It’s like DICE stopped caring. ---
**Author:** ![trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trip1ex)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/8 "2017-04-19T18:17:00Z")
I’m on the ground more than I fly. I get killed maybe once a round by a TF. And so really the nerf won’t change the game experience from the ground for me. But from the air I won’t get as many kills with the TF and so I wouldn’t doubt if I find a different fav plane to fly. Attack plane is a pretty good killer and so I expect I will fly that one even more. Bomber can be too. ---
**Author:** ![boutneus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@boutneus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/boutneus)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/9 "2017-04-19T18:22:00Z")
Did 100 service stars with TF and attack plane. AP took about 2/3rd of the time to get there. It’s better at farming infantry, the tears will flow. ---
**Author:** ![SirSpectacle](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@SirSpectacle](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirSpectacle)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/10 "2017-04-19T18:22:00Z")
> [@V2Face](#): > > I’m not saying it will get buffed, I’m saying once one plane gets nerfed another rises from the ashes. But the attack plane is much worse at dogfighting than the trench fighter. If an attack plane is being too bothersome, any player can hop in a fighter and take them on. As long as you don’t completely suck at flying you can shoot them down, unlike the current situation where the only real counter to an expert trench fighter pilot is another expert pilot ---
**Author:** ![l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/l_water_l)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/11 "2017-04-19T18:27:00Z")
> [@SirSpectacle](#): > > > [@V2Face](#): > > > > I’m not saying it will get buffed, I’m saying once one plane gets nerfed another rises from the ashes. > > But the attack plane is much worse at dogfighting than the trench fighter. If an attack plane is being too bothersome, any player can hop in a fighter and take them on. As long as you don’t completely suck at flying you can shoot them down, unlike the current situation where the only real counter to an expert trench fighter pilot is another expert pilot The exception to this is if the attack plane has a descent gunner. ---
**Author:** ![the-frag-artist](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/the-frag-artist/32/103742_2.png) [@the-frag-artist](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/the-frag-artist)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/12 "2017-04-19T18:28:00Z")
People saying they rarely died from it must not play operations much. ---
**Author:** ![trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trip1ex)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/13 "2017-04-19T18:30:00Z")
> [@SirSpectacle](#): > > > [@V2Face](#): > > > > I’m not saying it will get buffed, I’m saying once one plane gets nerfed another rises from the ashes. > > But the attack plane is much worse at dogfighting than the trench fighter. If an attack plane is being too bothersome, any player can hop in a fighter and take them on. As long as you don’t completely suck at flying you can shoot them down, unlike the current situation where the only real counter to an expert trench fighter pilot is another expert pilot except the AP has a rear gun. Don’t think “any player” will be able to hop into a fighter and take out the AP. ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/14 "2017-04-19T18:34:00Z")
Trench fighter didn’t need a nerf but AA is certainly trash at the moment. Hopefully the buff to AA will make them more effective at point defence. ---
**Author:** ![Kozer213](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kozer213/32/102570_2.png) [@Kozer213](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kozer213)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/15 "2017-04-19T18:34:00Z")
No not a patch…I finally got battlefield 1 installed! Now I run the risk of my xbox just dumping it all over again. But at least balance is balance? Maybe? I dunno ---
**Author:** ![lh20122012](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lh20122012/32/102637_2.png) [@lh20122012](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lh20122012)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/16 "2017-04-19T18:36:00Z")
> [@trip1ex](#): > > > [@SirSpectacle](#): > > > > > [@V2Face](#): > > > > > > I’m not saying it will get buffed, I’m saying once one plane gets nerfed another rises from the ashes. > > > > But the attack plane is much worse at dogfighting than the trench fighter. If an attack plane is being too bothersome, any player can hop in a fighter and take them on. As long as you don’t completely suck at flying you can shoot them down, unlike the current situation where the only real counter to an expert trench fighter pilot is another expert pilot > > except the AP has a rear gun. Don’t think “any player” will be able to hop into a fighter and take out the AP. God, those guys that know how to stale the plane before they switch seats and laser you, are the worst. ---
**Author:** ![PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/precisionwing/32/103161_2.png) [@PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PrecisionWing)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/17 "2017-04-19T19:57:00Z")
Time to nerf bomber and attack planes. XD ---
**Author:** ![Gforce81](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gforce81/32/100952_2.png) [@Gforce81](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Gforce81)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/18 "2017-04-19T20:13:00Z")
> [@V2Face](#): > > I’m not saying it will get buffed, I’m saying once one plane gets nerfed another rises from the ashes. And that’s fine. Even tho they’re more potent against ground targets, they are also easier to hit AS a ground target. I’m not afraid to go toe to toe with an Attack Plane with my Scout rifle. In the immortal words of the internet “Come at me bros” See if I can make him think twice about his repeated passes over and over. Not so easy to make the turn for another run when your engine is disabled… ---
**Author:** ![Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/trokey66/32/103889_2.png) [@Trokey66](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Trokey66)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/19 "2017-04-19T20:18:00Z")
> [@PrecisionWing](#): > > Time to nerf bomber and attack planes. XD Shouldn’t you have posted your MAA video by now? Players that chose the TF may decided to go BK and chase Bombers. Perhaps the tears will be Bomber crews or are we admitting that the super leet, mad skillzzz flyers just use the easiest thing to farm infantry for personal prestige rather than directly help their team? Just a thought… ---
**Author:** ![bleachee](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ce73a5/32.png) [@bleachee](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bleachee)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110/20 "2017-04-19T20:26:00Z")
Players will ALWAYS seek out the most effective weapons. You can make a particular weapon less effective, but there will always be a most effective weapon, and these players will use it, and other players will complain about it. This will never change. We can’t fall into a vicious cycle of nerfing weapons that will never achieve this mystical, much-fabled thing called “balance.” [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/trench-fighter-nerf-in-less-than-a-week/259110.md?page=2)