# TTK Changes Discussion : All platforms **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 12, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178 "2018-12-12T20:40:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/181 "2018-12-13T21:14:00Z")
> [@Loki\_Deezie](#): > > I dont see a difference other than when my aim is not at its best. > > When my aim is on point I am hitting HS which they did not change the damage on those. You are mostly playing medic, right? So I would assume you are mostly in close quarters, where the TTK change is not as severe. Once you get into 6BTK ranges (which is still pretty close) you will feel it, depending on your accuracy. At that range also any headshots you will get with automatic weapons is pure coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![1984rage](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/ea666f/32.png) [@1984rage](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/1984rage)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/182 "2018-12-13T21:14:00Z")
So this is out of the picture now? [video=" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjXroBBVzn8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjXroBBVzn8) ---
**Author:** ![davisbrandon1911](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/958977/32.png) [@davisbrandon1911](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/davisbrandon1911)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/183 "2018-12-13T21:17:00Z")
Once they drop custom servers all this will be mute because you can tweak the damage to your liking… ---
**Author:** ![DirtyDog1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@DirtyDog1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DirtyDog1974)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/184 "2018-12-13T21:18:00Z")
Big assumption that there will be customer servers though ---
**Author:** ![homicidlwheelman](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/homicidlwheelman/32/106749_2.png) [@homicidlwheelman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/homicidlwheelman)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/185 "2018-12-13T21:19:00Z")
Yesssss, leave up to them to patch the loyal bf supporters out, and cater to the millenial whining instant gratification noob that will stop playing the game the second the next AAA title releases… ---
**Author:** ![Singe1989](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@Singe1989](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Singe1989)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/186 "2018-12-13T21:19:00Z")
> [@DirtyDog1974](#): > > Yes but isn’t splitting the community into TTK 1.0 and TTK 2.0? I fail to see your logic in saying that does not split us into 2 groups. Their are 2 different types of TTK in hardcore and standard… in every Battlefield game. And you can choose to play either, so no it’s splitting nothing. ---
**Author:** ![davisbrandon1911](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/958977/32.png) [@davisbrandon1911](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/davisbrandon1911)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/187 "2018-12-13T21:20:00Z")
> [@DirtyDog1974](#): > > Big assumption that there will be customer servers though I feel like there will be. That a huge draw to the BF series. If they dont then the TTK will be the least of our worries by the time they are done. ---
**Author:** ![AMeatyFist](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ameatyfist/32/101193_2.png) [@AMeatyFist](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/AMeatyFist)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/188 "2018-12-13T21:21:00Z")
Search server list for conquest-core they use the old TTK. ---
**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/189 "2018-12-13T21:21:00Z")
> [@Loki\_Deezie](#): > > > [@warslag](#): > > > > > [@Loki\_Deezie](#): > > > > > > > [@warslag](#): > > > > > > > > > [@TEKNOCODE](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@warslag](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@0SiGHT0](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He didn’t die quickly at all, every damage registered separately, slow the video down. This was as fair as it gets. > > > > > > > > > > > > I slowed it down and watched it several times. It looked like he hit him eight times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@TEKNOCODE](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@warslag](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looked like he hit him about 8 times. Even if it was less than that it should be enough to drop someone. Plus he did die really quickly. If it was the other player that shot him then something doesn’t make sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other player had better aim. Makes complete sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you know he had better aim when you have only seen what happened from one perspective? > > > > > > > > > > How do you know he/she didn’t? > > > > > > > > > > As @HardAimedKid said, one headshot from OP would have changed the outcome. > > > > > > > > > > Edit: OP clarified that he died from a second player. > > > > > > > > So in other words: the other player didn’t have better aim at all. OP was killed by a third party. > > > > > > > > Doesn’t change the fact that OP hit the player he was aiming at approximately eight times. > > > > > > I count 5 hits and most of those his his legs/foot. > > > > > > HS = same damage as before. Aim for the head. > > > > You’re right it was 5 not 8. He fired 20 times and hit with 5 so that’s 25% accuracy. That’s not that bad from where he was considering he was being shot while he fired. > > No not terrible but that 5 hits could have been 3 with a kill if he aimed at the head and not the legs. At that range 25% is not the greatest ACC As said in another thread, headshots, even at that range with ironsights and full-auto are pure coincidence. Spread (yes it is in the game) and recoil will see to that. I would also say the higher your headshotcount the worse your accuracy and aim actually is with automatic weapons. Also 25% accuracy, which is also his average accuracy with the STG44 is really good. I just looked up his stats, too. He is pretty decent. While the video showed him at not his best, the point he illustrates is valid. That guy would have been dead one bullet earlier (possibly he as well), the whole firefight took too long at that range, which I have trouble calling medium. He lost a 2vs1 which could likely have a 2 1vs1s in a row. ---
**Author:** ![rubbellois](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rubbellois](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rubbellois)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/190 "2018-12-13T18:44:00Z")
you need more bullets per kill and players are forced to play high rof weapons, this leads to a more campy playstyle in general because players will run out of ammo more quickly. also flanking isnt as viable anymore because you can kill at max 2 enemies with your primary(with most weapons). and this leads to a ultimate zerg where teams fight over 1-2 objectives the whole game long. if i wanna have something like that ill just start a round of metro on bf3, no need to design a whole game to this cause -.- ---
**Author:** ![WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/winterwarhurst/32/107315_2.png) [@WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WinterWarhurst)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/191 "2018-12-13T19:13:00Z")
![9-B1-BC8-A3-0-CFB-4-E91-8167-772701797338.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/a/b/ab465de35f1cf972c8f419c1f681265aefdd3f9c.jpeg) via: [https://twitter.com/BattleNonSense/status/1073110557505531905](https://twitter.com/BattleNonSense/status/1073110557505531905) Could this simple feature make all the difference? I would personally love this! ---
**Author:** ![DirtyDog1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@DirtyDog1974](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DirtyDog1974)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/192 "2018-12-13T19:30:00Z")
Played under new TTK today, funny thing I died just as quick but the kills were not there. If this s is the direction Dice wants I am not following. ---
**Author:** ![Danz\_RS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ec9cab/32.png) [@Danz\_RS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Danz_RS)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/193 "2018-12-13T19:39:00Z")
It only made the game worse. BS like this still happens everytime: [![Video: (BFV) 1 frame deaths still happen even after TTK nerf!](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/5/0/50fa87bf41036fb84d91882ad4a3a5f175061e75.jpeg "(BFV) 1 frame deaths still happen even after TTK nerf!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oWvC5MD4uw) Good thing Julian Manolov said in a tweet it’s meant to be just a quick test and it’s not final by any means, but still, very frustating. ---
**Author:** ![IGrievous](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/f4b2a3/32.png) [@IGrievous](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IGrievous)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/194 "2018-12-13T19:42:00Z")
Yesterday I was trying to play as a medic, but I got frustrated because I needed a lot of bullets to kill people, I died a lot of times instantly because of the netcode, so I closed the game and opened battlefield 3. Guess what? In Battlefield 3 I also had a few instant deaths and sometimes I died after taking cover. The problem of several DICE games is not the TTK, it is the netcode that frustrates the players and does not motivate them to play. Then I opened Battlefield 4 and wow, after so many fixes from DICE, that game feels beautiful. The netcode is much better than the other two Battlefields. The netcode of battlefield 1 is the best of all the games in the franchise, but the gunplay is the worst. The other big problem that maybe the players are getting frustrated with is that they do not see the people, in any other Battlefield the players played lying down like this. Playing in Devastation or Fjell is so frustrating, you literally do not see someone lying on the floor, or you can not distinguish him from a corpse. At least in the other Battlefield games you can distinguish an enemy lying down. ---
**Author:** ![DRUNKMONKEY9821](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/9fc348/32.png) [@DRUNKMONKEY9821](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DRUNKMONKEY9821)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/195 "2018-12-13T19:51:00Z")
When ya get shot in the head you should die but ya don’t only if it’s a sniper and that as easy as point and shoot so accuracy has nothing to do with it Mp40 should take 4 headshoots to kill ---
**Author:** ![Huntinwabits](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/huntinwabits/32/102236_2.png) [@Huntinwabits](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Huntinwabits)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/196 "2018-12-13T19:59:00Z")
I mean automatic guns (HIT MARKERS 10-15 TIMES) AND STILL THEY DON’T DIE??? But single fire guns 2 shots your dead?? get with the program man…so tired of this ---
**Author:** ![III\_neonvoid\_III](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/8e8cbc/32.png) [@III\_neonvoid\_III](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/III_neonvoid_III)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/197 "2018-12-13T20:01:00Z")
Please don’t ever change the new TTK. ---
**Author:** ![Crystaldye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crystaldye/32/106571_2.png) [@Crystaldye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crystaldye)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/198 "2018-12-13T20:25:00Z")
Did DICE forget what game they’re making. This isn’t a corridor Call of Duty Shooter, this is a 64 player, Large maps, Objective based game. Having this 2 hit kill TTK is NOT fun! It sucks! BF1 sales= 25Million sold BFV sales = already 50% sale 4 weeks after release. Numbers speak volumes. You made a battlefield game that Battlefield Players/Fans HATE! This is the first year that I bought Call of Duty cause BF sucks. Congrats Dice&EA. Your Stock has dropped 40%, and you made a “battlefield” game that flopped- and for a very good reason. ---
**Author:** ![Singe1989](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@Singe1989](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Singe1989)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/199 "2018-12-13T20:31:00Z")
Everyone is up in arms at the moment and I get it… I prefer the original TTK. But please do not be hasty, they haven’t even taken it away all together it is still there. This is going to be a 2 week test phase at the most. Worst case scenario they will implement both TTK versions to all game modes. I am playing conquest core and absolutely loving it still, hasn’t even affected me. So just keep playing and enjoying it and stop the whining. ---
**Author:** ![BURGERKRIEG](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@BURGERKRIEG](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BURGERKRIEG)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/200 "2018-12-13T21:17:00Z")
So more bullets are needed to kill now but the attrition system has not been changed to compensate? Surely I must be wrong here? [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178.md?page=9) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178.md?page=11)