# TTK Changes Discussion : All platforms **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 12, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178 "2018-12-12T20:40:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskool_007/32/103047_2.png) [@Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Oskool_007)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/41 "2018-12-13T18:41:00Z")
Over half your bullets missed the target. Slow the video down to 25% speed and most shots miss left. ---
**Author:** ![DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/davtan/32/101656_2.png) [@DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DavTan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/42 "2018-12-13T18:42:00Z")
Let’s get real. This is all about the money. EA suits have decided that this game hasn’t met it’s targets ie performed as well as bf1 . Therefore they conclude that it’s the ttk that will push the game closer to being like bf1. And people that liked bf1 will come back. I’m not sure they are right with those conclusions. I think the best everyone can hope for is they keep both standard ttk 2 and core ttk 1… Which from the loading screen blurb for core implies this is what they are doing. I shall keep my other thoughts on this debacle to myself and try to adapt to whatever is thrown at us. Btw I never had an issue with the ttd on console. ---
**Author:** ![ParadiseFrost](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/paradisefrost/32/107046_2.png) [@ParadiseFrost](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ParadiseFrost)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/43 "2018-12-13T18:44:00Z")
> [@IronMaiden1337](#): > > And you still die in one frame Except there are enough frames to clearly see the health drop from 100-\>80\>63-\>40ish-\>20-\>Dead Do you know what “frames” mean? Buddy can’t shoot ---
**Author:** ![Zviko0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zviko0/32/104209_2.png) [@Zviko0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zviko0)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/44 "2018-12-13T18:45:00Z")
This is what is wrong with new TTK. People not accepting that they are bad. ---
**Author:** ![Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/oskool_007/32/103047_2.png) [@Oskool\_007](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Oskool_007)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/45 "2018-12-13T18:47:00Z")
> [@Zviko0](#): > > This is what is wrong with new TTK. People not accepting that they are bad. I know right? Over 20 rounds fired at the target. 5 rounds actually land on target… Learn 2 aim. ---
**Author:** ![IronMaiden1337](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@IronMaiden1337](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IronMaiden1337)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/46 "2018-12-13T18:47:00Z")
> [@ParadiseFrost](#): > > > [@IronMaiden1337](#): > > > > And you still die in one frame > > Except there are enough frames to clearly see the health drop from 100-\>80\>63-\>40ish-\>20-\>Dead > Do you know what “frames” mean? > > Buddy can’t shoot - not in this Video. i should have added it. The 1 frame death isn’t gone ---
**Author:** ![karcyon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/karcyon/32/102468_2.png) [@karcyon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/karcyon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/47 "2018-12-13T18:54:00Z")
Bad aim explained in 5 seconds. FTFY. ---
**Author:** ![Metoad](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/metoad/32/106940_2.png) [@Metoad](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Metoad)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/48 "2018-12-13T18:57:00Z")
Give us old TTK and fix company coins, FAST! ---
**Author:** ![ProLegion\_exor](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/prolegion_exor/32/101880_2.png) [@ProLegion\_exor](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ProLegion_exor)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/49 "2018-12-13T18:57:00Z")
> [@VincentNZ](#): > > > [@clouseau2112](#): > > > > Is TTK 2.0 that different from TTK 1.0? > > > > Never seen sooo many threads about it. > > > > Not sure what all the fuss is about…so it takes me like 1 more bullet to kill, so what. I’m still getting my normal scores, and kills in conquest matches. > > > > And don’t misinterpret, I preferred the original TTK. Just felt right. > > > > Anyhow…thinking everyone should just work on adapting, or like ProLegion\_exor said…‘accuracy is key now’ > > It is. A bullet more to kill can be a long time in a game like that. If we assume an average accuracy of 25%, which many will never reach, you are looking at four more bullets per kill. We are still talking milliseconds, but every engagements here is measured that way. More bullets spent also mean less accuracy. > It is also crucial when going up against multiple targets from a beneficial position. The more time it takes to kill the one guy, the more time the second guy has to react and kill you, diminishing your advantage. > More crucial is bullet economy and magsize. Suddenly weapons with a magazine lower than 31 are not recommendable, because of the low kill capacity. Further some weapon classes now have ridiculous BTK values at very relevant engagement ranges. 9 bullets for an MP40 to kill at 75m is way too long. Why would you engage at 75 meters with a smg? If you could it would be insanly bad weapon balance. ---
**Author:** ![CMR\_Shaven](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/cmr_shaven/32/101535_2.png) [@CMR\_Shaven](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CMR_Shaven)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/50 "2018-12-13T18:58:00Z")
To this point i dont want to log in anymore… What a shame. ---
**Author:** ![0SiGHT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/0sight0/32/101092_2.png) [@0SiGHT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/0SiGHT0)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/51 "2018-12-13T18:58:00Z")
You have horrible aim and you’re going full auto and missing shots because of it. Delete this thread. ---
**Author:** ![theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/theoneforce/32/103797_2.png) [@theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/theONEFORCE)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/52 "2018-12-13T19:00:00Z")
> [@Zviko0](#): > > This is what is wrong with new TTK. People not accepting that they are bad. LMAO ---
**Author:** ![HardAimedKid](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hardaimedkid/32/102174_2.png) [@HardAimedKid](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HardAimedKid)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/53 "2018-12-13T19:01:00Z")
LoooooooooL. You didn’t get one framed at all, even with how quick the video ends you can see your health drop each time you get hit. You did hit a couple shots on the guy but your shot placement didn’t look great to be honest, try a sight maybe? ---
**Author:** ![spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/spartanx169x)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/54 "2018-12-13T19:01:00Z")
So you are telling me you are not capable of landing one more, ONE MORE additional shot. I’m 50 years old and I don’t have a problem with landing shots. Is your aim really that bad? ---
**Author:** ![theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/theoneforce/32/103797_2.png) [@theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/theONEFORCE)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/55 "2018-12-13T19:02:00Z")
> [@Oskool\_007](#): > > > [@Zviko0](#): > > > > This is what is wrong with new TTK. People not accepting that they are bad. > > I know right? Over 20 rounds fired at the target. 5 rounds actually land on target… Learn 2 aim. > [@karcyon](#): > > Bad aim explained in 5 seconds. FTFY. > [@0SiGHT0](#): > > You have horrible aim and you’re going full auto and missing shots because of it. Delete this thread. But with TTK 1.0 that kill would have made his highlight reel. I’m starting to see what the real problem with the new TTK is thread by thread. ---
**Author:** ![Ne0tax](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ne0tax/32/106989_2.png) [@Ne0tax](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ne0tax)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/56 "2018-12-13T19:03:00Z")
Aim to head and you have the same TTK than before. Brain ON before spraydown! ---
**Author:** ![lll\_HOSS\_lll](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@lll\_HOSS\_lll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lll_HOSS_lll)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/57 "2018-12-13T19:03:00Z")
I have played BFV for roughly 75 hours since its release and have very much enjoyed it. My opinion is that I loved the game’s original TTK as that felt more realistic to me which is what I personally prefer. Since the change to TTK I have played a few rounds and have definitely had more “wth?” moments where I’m shooting and shooting and shooting and appear to be hitting the opponent and he just won’t die…which is frustrating. I’m wondering if changing the TTK to a middle ground between what the original settings were and what they are now would appease everyone. I saw somewhere that the values for most TTK changes were changed from 1.0 to 0.85 so maybe set them all to 0.925? ---
**Author:** ![Head3masher](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/head3masher/32/102186_2.png) [@Head3masher](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Head3masher)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/58 "2018-12-13T19:04:00Z")
They should give us more ammo when we spawn too. ---
**Author:** ![theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/theoneforce/32/103797_2.png) [@theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/theONEFORCE)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/59 "2018-12-13T19:05:00Z")
> [@L0NEW0LF444](#): > > Whit the new TTK you must hit the target more times, there are many problems whit that, some of them are: 1) The precision, miss shots is more dangerous because that increased the reloading 2) Reloading more often (that is very dangerous in close quarters expecially when you choose to use semi-auto rifles) 3) self loadind scouts rifles don’t have the necessary ammo to play as well. Close Quarters TTK is the same. Now you don’t have worry about reloading more often. ---
**Author:** ![0SiGHT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/0sight0/32/101092_2.png) [@0SiGHT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/0SiGHT0)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178/60 "2018-12-13T19:05:00Z")
This is probably one of the fairest gun fights I’ve seen on BFV. You actually get registered damage and leave the enemy with 1% health because you can’t aim or manage recoil at all. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178.md?page=2) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-changes-discussion-all-platforms/106178.md?page=4)