# TTK & TTD in BFV **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [November 9, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318 "2018-11-09T12:02:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![J4K5](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/j4k5/32/108073_2.png) [@J4K5](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/J4K5)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318/1 "2018-11-09T12:02:00Z")
I was using the Sten as the starting Asult rifle last night and noticed that TTK is f’n long. I mean longer than LMG’s at BF1 Launch(I know this was patched). My aim is pretty good(??) and watched some of my clips back and I was getting hits constantly but then dying instantly from what felt like super bullets. IDK… I play a lot of BF4 Hardcore but the TTK felt a lot better in the Beta. Thoughts?? ---
**Author:** ![PcPAirgun](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@PcPAirgun](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PcPAirgun)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318/2 "2018-11-09T12:41:00Z")
TTK seems fine, while TTD is not. Same as in the last beta. ---
**Author:** ![StingX71](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/stingx71/32/103620_2.png) [@StingX71](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/StingX71)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318/3 "2018-11-09T12:49:00Z")
Sten needs help. Little more hitting power close range. ---
**Author:** ![J4K5](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/j4k5/32/108073_2.png) [@J4K5](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/J4K5)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318/4 "2018-11-09T12:58:00Z")
> [@StingX71](#): > > Sten needs help. Little more hitting power close range. Can’t help but think the same just hope it’s not a broader problem with weapon balance. ---
**Author:** ![biotek7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@biotek7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/biotek7)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318/5 "2018-11-09T13:55:00Z")
The Sten seemed pretty bad to me. The beginner Assault and Support weapons are much better. But yeah, the TTD is a mess still too. ---
**Author:** ![Radious1987](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Radious1987](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Radious1987)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318/6 "2018-11-09T13:59:00Z")
Big mess now. Sometimes you see every hit, sometimes its instant death. ---
**Author:** ![J4K5](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/j4k5/32/108073_2.png) [@J4K5](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/J4K5)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318/7 "2018-11-09T14:05:00Z")
> [@Radious1987](#): > > Big mess now. Sometimes you see every hit, sometimes its instant death. Thank god… for a second I thought I got bad overnight. ---
**Author:** ![J4K5](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/j4k5/32/108073_2.png) [@J4K5](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/J4K5)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318/8 "2018-11-09T14:31:00Z")
“DICE reduced the short-range effectiveness of assault rifles to be more in line with their intended role in the meta. SMGs should be king in those ranges, while the inverse is true for assault rifles.” Can’t understand how there is anything wrong with a good all-rounder. AK5C / ACW-R… Now we have to be constantly driven into a specific play style per weapon. Having a weapon that’s a bit of both enhances the game play and lets u experience different strategies while still being handicapped by not having the best MED or CQ weapon. Sten is the starter assault rifle but punishes you heavily when u find yourself to close to an enemy, thereby eliminating the option to cap a flag almost entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Valomat](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ecd19e/32.png) [@Valomat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Valomat)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/ttk-ttd-in-bfv/254318/9 "2018-11-09T15:48:00Z")
TTD is not in a good relation to TTK. TTD is bugged imo