# Unsportsmanlike Behavior **URL:** \ **Category:** Console\ **Created:** [January 31, 2019, 4:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409 "2019-01-31T04:14:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![skins4ever21](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@skins4ever21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/skins4ever21)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/21 "2019-02-05T14:35:00Z")
Real talk if you shooting me and I go down hard it’s not me bailing it’s me being whole higher level of suck and I tried to get low and crashed … no bailing involved just as dead if you shot me down 😃 Is there any good tutorial videos online that explains the ins and outs of flying the different planes? I really want to learn it but every time I try I’m incredibly lost and I tried the practice range but it didn’t explain anything at all. Any help would be appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![NauticalTrackin](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/82dd89/32.png) [@NauticalTrackin](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NauticalTrackin)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/22 "2019-02-05T16:42:00Z")
If you’re talking unsportsmanlike, what about the pilots who crash their planes into yours (usually when you are in a Stuka or bomber) just because you or your gunner(s) are about to shoot them down just so they don’t have to die without getting the kill. Happens to me and one of my friends all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Kevang039](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/ecae2f/32.png) [@Kevang039](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kevang039)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/23 "2019-02-06T00:59:00Z")
Here’s the deal on why I will bail on my plane every single time. Odds are, I’m getting shot at or down the very seconds d I start flying around. I’ve got someone on my 6 who just haple s to be right on too of me and I can’t shake them. I’ve had instances where I’ve been behind someone, they turn, I follow and somehow they’re gone and all of a sudden they’re behind me busting up my plane. I’ll bail anytime I feel like it, I’m not giving someone a kill for being right on my butt the second I get in a plane. ---
**Author:** ![Real\_Noobalishus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Real\_Noobalishus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Real_Noobalishus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 4:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/24 "2019-02-11T04:26:00Z")
> [@Kevang039](#): > > Here’s the deal on why I will bail on my plane every single time. > > Odds are, I’m getting shot at or down the very seconds d I start flying around. > > I’ve got someone on my 6 who just haple s to be right on too of me and I can’t shake them. > > I’ve had instances where I’ve been behind someone, they turn, I follow and somehow they’re gone and all of a sudden they’re behind me busting up my plane. > > I’ll bail anytime I feel like it, I’m not giving someone a kill for being right on my butt the second I get in a plane. Bailing is one thing and I’m all for it (unless you bail out of bounds where you’re going to die anyway for desertion, which makes you a salty coward who has no sense of fair play and thinks their game play is more important than everyone else but hey that’s just my opinion). In regards of bailing when someone you’re shooting happens to out maneuver you and gets on your six, thats what dogfighting is all about. There is an artform behind it, it’s not all get on their 6 and it’s over. If you’re going to bail in that scenario fine but if you decide to nose dive and/or redeploy (especially out of bounds) so to not only deny them the kill but also the vehicle destroy…again it’s just my opinion but you are a salty coward and sore loser. For people who camp at your spawn looking to gank you as soon as you enter, if you cannot fight back at all as there is 2 or 3 already shooting you, by all means deny them the points as what they are doing is absolutely disgusting behavior and shows how little skill they have as they are afraid of a fair fight. This post wasn’t about fair bailing, it’s about the people who redeploy and/or nose dive to deny you any form of points,I’m not sure why everyone keeps going back to bailing ---
**Author:** ![skins4ever21](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@skins4ever21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/skins4ever21)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/25 "2019-02-12T14:59:00Z")
So after reading this thread I was dumb and tried to pilot… My God it’s hard lol Takes a million bullets to kill a plane and most when you get ready to finish them they straight up nosedive to the ground. I had guys on narvik that soon as I’d get on their 6 and hit them with like 2 shots would just bail. It’s extremely hard to level up a plane when you can’t get the points. I also don’t get why when someone is on my 6 then can shoot me down at times in maybe 2-3 seconds tops as I take massive damage really fast but when I get on someone I have to hit them for like 2-3 mins straight. Upgrade maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Aflag666](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Aflag666](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Aflag666)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/26 "2019-02-12T19:49:00Z")
> [@skins4ever21](#): > > So after reading this thread I was dumb and tried to pilot… My God it’s hard lol Takes a million bullets to kill a plane and most when you get ready to finish them they straight up nosedive to the ground. I had guys on narvik that soon as I’d get on their 6 and hit them with like 2 shots would just bail. It’s extremely hard to level up a plane when you can’t get the points. I also don’t get why when someone is on my 6 then can shoot me down at times in maybe 2-3 seconds tops as I take massive damage really fast but when I get on someone I have to hit them for like 2-3 mins straight. Upgrade maybe? The Specializations for planes make a HUGE difference in TTK. Also, scoring hits on particular weak points is key. The standard guns do not do near as much damage as the ones you can upgrade to especially on the fighters. One trick for leveling up vehicles is that you get pointsjust being in a vehicle. So you can ride shotgun and accumulate points same as if you were in control and get your specializations unlocked. A good trick for vehicles but planes especially right now, since there are so many good pilots with upgraded weapons, to contend with if you’re just starting out. I play with a fella who loves to fly and we play together anytime he is on, and we’ve been playing since the Beta. So I’ve seen how upgrading planes makes a difference first hand, from the ground, while looking at the kill feed. Also, if you have a squad mate onthe ground while your in the air taking bullets in your rear, having him/her in an AA gun and kiting your aggressor over the area helps. Especially when you got Iceman or Maverick on your six! For those of you who do not know those call signs, shame on you for not knowing your history 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mgood1845](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@mgood1845](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mgood1845)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/27 "2019-02-12T20:04:00Z")
> [@Aflag666](#): > > The Specializations for planes make a HUGE difference in TTK. Also, scoring hits on particular weak points is key. The standard guns do not do near as much damage as the ones you can upgrade to especially on the fighters. One trick for leveling up vehicles is that you get pointsjust being in a vehicle. So you can ride shotgun and accumulate points same as if you were in control and get your specializations unlocked. A good trick for vehicles but planes especially right now, since there are so many good pilots with upgraded weapons, to contend with if you’re just starting out. I play with a fella who loves to fly and we play together anytime he is on, and we’ve been playing since the Beta. So I’ve seen how upgrading planes makes a difference first hand, from the ground, while looking at the kill feed. Also, if you have a squad mate onthe ground while your in the air taking bullets in your rear, having him/her in an AA gun and kiting your aggressor over the area helps. Especially when you got Iceman or Maverick on your six! For those of you who do not know those call signs, shame on you for not knowing your history 😉 Goose! I love being in an AA for my pilots, i always say lead em back to me! ---
**Author:** ![sbvaughn88](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sbvaughn88/32/103375_2.png) [@sbvaughn88](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/sbvaughn88)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/28 "2019-02-26T06:44:00Z")
Oh my god I didn’t realize how much of a problem this was until I started flying a few weeks ago…literally flew around in A spitfire all game, nearly shot down 6 different planes ALL of whom crashed into the ground once I had them beat. I have the feeling that several were from the same sore loser. But my god it’s frustrating trying to rank up fighters when everyone does this = Rage. All that work for nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Real\_Noobalishus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Real\_Noobalishus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Real_Noobalishus)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 8:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/29 "2019-02-26T08:30:00Z")
> [@sbvaughn88](#): > > Oh my god I didn’t realize how much of a problem this was until I started flying a few weeks ago…literally flew around in A spitfire all game, nearly shot down 6 different planes ALL of whom crashed into the ground once I had them beat. I have the feeling that several were from the same sore loser. But my god it’s frustrating trying to rank up fighters when everyone does this = Rage. All that work for nothing. This exactly why I made this post. I don’t know what Youtuber (I’m going to assume its a Youtuber as nearly 99% of pilots started redploying/bailing around the same time) told everyone to redeploy/nose dive into the ground when losing a dogfight but this needs to stop. If you’re repeatedly going up and getting wrecked by the same pilot in a fair dogfight maybe that game isn’t for you, let someone else have a go. Do everyone a favor and don’t just start spamming plane spawns and then crashing because you’re salty, its a waste of a vehicle, a waste for your team and simply a waste of time. There are legitimate people who want to fly and dogfight and they get held back because someone’s ping is higher and so cant get the plane in time because the person going 0 - 20 has a chip on their shoulder ---
**Author:** ![mgood1845](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@mgood1845](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mgood1845)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/30 "2019-02-26T15:56:00Z")
not gonna lie, I fly low to avoid being seen, and sometimes the combo of being a slow bomber flying low, which has taken significant damage means i cant pull up and crash…not cause i wanna but because i no longer have the control in the plane i did prior to damage. ---
**Author:** ![sbvaughn88](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sbvaughn88/32/103375_2.png) [@sbvaughn88](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/sbvaughn88)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/31 "2019-02-27T01:55:00Z")
> [@mgood1845](#): > > not gonna lie, I fly low to avoid being seen, and sometimes the combo of being a slow bomber flying low, which has taken significant damage means i cant pull up and crash…not cause i wanna but because i no longer have the control in the plane i did prior to damage. I don’t think that is what we’re talking about. Everyone has done this…flown to low, hung on a second too long on the gun strafe…what I’m talking about is level flight, bank and nosedive straight into the ground. Talking about BLATANT crashing the second the plane goes on fire. If your not crashing every once in a while you probably aren’t pushing the limits ---
**Author:** ![Real\_Noobalishus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Real\_Noobalishus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Real_Noobalishus)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 8:36am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409/32 "2019-02-27T08:36:00Z")
> [@mgood1845](#): > > not gonna lie, I fly low to avoid being seen, and sometimes the combo of being a slow bomber flying low, which has taken significant damage means i cant pull up and crash…not cause i wanna but because i no longer have the control in the plane i did prior to damage. As I said before, I can tell the difference between an accident and a deliberate action. If someone for instance tries to stall out and crashes, hey it sucks but we’ve all made mistakes and as @sbvaughn88 said pushed it a little far. It’s the “screw you and your points, I’m going to crash this into the ground” that needs to stop, either stop getting into a plane if you’re getting beat and let someone else have a go or do your best to evade and (this part is important) if you are **INBOUNDS** then bail. Don’t be a sore loser and ruin it not only for the other pilot but also your team by losing a ticket you may not of had to lose [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/unsportsmanlike-behavior/108409.md?page=1)