# Valentine Is ridiculous **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 14, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/valentine-is-ridiculous/106193 "2018-12-14T18:21:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Minigun991](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Minigun991](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Minigun991)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/valentine-is-ridiculous/106193/1 "2018-12-14T18:21:00Z")
When I played Battlefield 1, as the close support tank, it was common knowledge that I would be taken out by a heavy tank 1v1 from the front. I thought it would carry over to battlefield V. But that’s not the case. The Valentine is the beast of the battlefield. With its upgraded loading, it is like a machine gun, even with the bigger gun. So heavy tanks have no chance at getting away, cause your gun fires so fast. So unless you catch a valentine napping, you’re going to take a beating. By the time you fire one round, it has five rounds already fired. ---
**Author:** ![wyatt56](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/7feea3/32.png) [@wyatt56](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/wyatt56)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/valentine-is-ridiculous/106193/2 "2018-12-14T18:43:00Z")
It depends, a Tiger shot with an upgraded ammunition usually hurts pretty bad. Really the upgraded guns and ammunitions on lots of tanks are amazing, so happy I realized it. Being able to carry 2 types of main gun ammo is also a huge plus now. ---
**Author:** ![WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/winterwarhurst/32/107315_2.png) [@WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WinterWarhurst)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/valentine-is-ridiculous/106193/3 "2018-12-14T19:16:00Z")
I love the Tiger, but in my experience I have NEVER lost an engagement in the Valentine vs a Tiger. I use the upgraded loading mechanism, and the ROF is simply absurd. With the 6-pounder and APCR it’s a war crime, but even with the 2-pounder I’ve had no problems. The Valentine’s armour can be pretty trolly, and it’s manouverbaility makes cover peeking super easy, whereas the Tiger can’t effectively angle its armour so just gets nailed when side-scrubbing or whatever, especially with the super long reload and poor manouverability. My best streak in the Valentine is 75-0 and that was vs the best in my platoon, multiple Tigers & Pz. IVs, V-1s specially sent for me, and their team destroying every resupply depot on the map. Good luck trying to beat it in a Tiger even in perfect conditions; I know I rarely come anywhere close. ---
**Author:** ![WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/winterwarhurst/32/107315_2.png) [@WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WinterWarhurst)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/valentine-is-ridiculous/106193/4 "2018-12-14T19:18:00Z")
> [@wyatt56](#): > > It depends, a Tiger shot with an upgraded ammunition usually hurts pretty bad. Really the upgraded guns and ammunitions on lots of tanks are amazing, so happy I realized it. Being able to carry 2 types of main gun ammo is also a huge plus now. I’d agree but the S-mine launchers are simply so valuable now that systemic damage is more prevalent than ever post Panzerfaust buff/ rebalance, and the fact infantry love to flank and YOLO rush you as you try an limp away. ---
**Author:** ![fakemon64](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/7ba0ec/32.png) [@fakemon64](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/fakemon64)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/valentine-is-ridiculous/106193/5 "2018-12-14T19:25:00Z")
> [@wyatt56](#): > > It depends, a Tiger shot with an upgraded ammunition usually hurts pretty bad. Really the upgraded guns and ammunitions on lots of tanks are amazing, so happy I realized it. Being able to carry 2 types of main gun ammo is also a huge plus now. I disagree, i find the upgraded ap/apcr rounds to be underwhelming and only good for the increased velocity and overall ammo. The strongest upgrade for tanks is the increased fire rate by far. ---
**Author:** ![wyatt56](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/7feea3/32.png) [@wyatt56](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/wyatt56)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/valentine-is-ridiculous/106193/6 "2018-12-17T17:42:00Z")
> [@WinterWarhurst](#): > > > [@wyatt56](#): > > > > I’d agree but the S-mine launchers are simply so valuable now that systemic damage is more prevalent than ever post Panzerfaust buff/ rebalance, and the fact infantry love to flank and YOLO rush you as you try an limp away. > > Have not had the chance to try the S-mines yet, I did equip them on my Churchill tho for a few of the grand operations but haven’t gotten into them yet. Planned to put them on my heavier vehicles to prevent being swarmed. ---
**Author:** ![WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/winterwarhurst/32/107315_2.png) [@WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WinterWarhurst)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/valentine-is-ridiculous/106193/7 "2018-12-17T18:13:00Z")
> [@wyatt56](#): > > > [@WinterWarhurst](#): > > > > > [@wyatt56](#): > > > > > > I’d agree but the S-mine launchers are simply so valuable now that systemic damage is more prevalent than ever post Panzerfaust buff/ rebalance, and the fact infantry love to flank and YOLO rush you as you try an limp away. > > > > Have not had the chance to try the S-mines yet, I did equip them on my Churchill tho for a few of the grand operations but haven’t gotten into them yet. Planned to put them on my heavier vehicles to prevent being swarmed. > > The Churchill/ British tanks gave incendiary launchers which in my experience aren’t particularly effective as the S-mines! I trialled them with the Staghound but quickly replaced them with the AP rounds for the autocannon. > > Be careful though when using S-mines as they will detonate enemy explosives (and your resupply depot), sometimes the TTD/ netcode issue will mean that it looks like they haven’t thrown the explosives yet when in fact they have and you can blow yourself up!