# Visibility Changes **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 12, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564 "2019-02-12T20:36:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![SilverSeva](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/silverseva/32/107159_2.png) [@SilverSeva](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SilverSeva)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/61 "2019-02-13T12:48:00Z")
Seems like DEVS don’t understand what the community is asking about… Let us disable all kind of antialiasing… Let us disable completely that garbage taa!!! _Edited for all caps. - EA\_Cian_ ---
**Author:** ![pest174](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pest174/32/103106_2.png) [@pest174](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/pest174)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 12:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/62 "2019-02-13T12:59:00Z")
> [@Skitelz7](#): > > > [@QHUNK9000](#): > > > > You guys complaining about this fix live on another planet man… ruining MMG’s and what not? Maybe you cant hide in the middle of a freaking objective! ! Fact of the matter is a large chunk of the player base is having trouble with this. Theres even been complaints of headaches (ask Aka-art on youtube about that one). > > > > At least give it a chance man!!! The amount of complaining on these forums… bunch of manchildren 😅 > > We complain because they keep changing things that don’t need changing. > Remember the TTK? > That went over very well didn’t it?! Using your MMG to shoot at a straw man? ---
**Author:** ![Batman696](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@Batman696](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Batman696)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/63 "2019-02-13T13:24:00Z")
IMO There was no visibility issue. Is this not a game based on a war setting? Is camo not supposed to work? Do players really not want to go stealthy? If the players are so concerned about enemy visibility , don all the characters in bright pink clothing with no choice to customize. Happy ? you can see everyone now. No hiding. Doesn’t that sound stupid? I personally love that fact that I can hide using the shadows or terrain that matches my camo uniform. It allows me to defend objectives or ambush runners trying to flank the bulk of our team. Please Dice, don’t ruin this game by listening to bad players. As for you bad players. 3d spotting exists… its in the scout class. They are called binoculars. Make a squad , have one of your squad members play scout. shouldn’t be hard to get a sniper. This was a squad based teamwork game right? You run with your squad to objectives. You win more often that way. ---
**Author:** ![Jonny\_ChaosMCR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jonny_chaosmcr/32/100965_2.png) [@Jonny\_ChaosMCR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jonny_ChaosMCR)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/64 "2019-02-13T13:33:00Z")
> [@AchillesMele](#): > > Oooh can’t wait to seee Hopefully after this you can actually see haha. ---
**Author:** ![Jonny\_ChaosMCR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jonny_chaosmcr/32/100965_2.png) [@Jonny\_ChaosMCR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jonny_ChaosMCR)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/65 "2019-02-13T13:34:00Z")
> [@ackers75](#): > > > [@Shrediron](#): > > > > > [@Skitelz7](#): > > > > > > I think visibility was fine, maybe there was a bug with the lighting while prone but I didn’t notice it. Guess I’ll have to try it and see. > > > > Visibility WAS fine, but apparently all the COD heroes who always cry “git gud” could not handle it when it was told to them by prone players. There were no issues, dice caved to a you tuber and the constant whine by action man. > > Are you completely broken! > > Just look at the pics Ironic how the people defending it saying it was fine, can’t actually see. ---
**Author:** ![Jonny\_ChaosMCR](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jonny_chaosmcr/32/100965_2.png) [@Jonny\_ChaosMCR](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jonny_ChaosMCR)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/66 "2019-02-13T13:36:00Z")
> [@Skitelz7](#): > > > [@Shrediron](#): > > > > > [@Skitelz7](#): > > > > > > I think visibility was fine, maybe there was a bug with the lighting while prone but I didn’t notice it. Guess I’ll have to try it and see. > > > > Visibility WAS fine, but apparently all the COD heroes who always cry “git gud” could not handle it when it was told to them by prone players. There were no issues, dice caved to a you tuber and the constant whine by action man. > > As usual. They market the game as more realistic then after release start to casualize the hell out of it. > Very upsetting. Cos not being able to see someone sat on your shoes is realistic. ---
**Author:** ![LittleMissNoobie](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/littlemissnoobie/32/106880_2.png) [@LittleMissNoobie](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LittleMissNoobie)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/67 "2019-02-13T14:15:00Z")
> [@F8RGE](#): > > IBy fixing this issue, solders who are prone should now be significantly more visible than before, on par with standing soldiers. Except the ones moving are harder to hit while the prone ones are easy targets. What’s the point in playing MMG if there is nothing to balance out the advantage of movement versus “sitting duck”? And if the answer is “don’t play prone” then take MMG’s out of the game. I started off playing MMG and while it’s a challenge to find places to rest while shooting the enemy, I did enjoy it. Now I no longer enjoy it. In fact, running around rezzing people on my medic means I die less. Movement \> being prone. Do you not get it? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dr_steamfur/32/106628_2.png) [@Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dr_Steamfur)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/68 "2019-02-13T14:21:00Z")
> [@PoppaPappo](#): > > > [@Shrediron](#): > > > > Are you completely broken! > > > > For christs sake man, its called camouflage for a reason. > > Except what you had was not camouflage. It was a Predator Alien level cloaking device! Incorrect. I don’t think you have ever used/experienced camouflage. It works amazingly well and can IN FACT keep you from seeing someone literally 5 feet away. ---
**Author:** ![tempo\_rarity](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@tempo\_rarity](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/tempo_rarity)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/69 "2019-02-13T14:23:00Z")
^ Yep Whenever I pull out my ultra-lethal Spotting Scope and all those little red icons start appearing everywhere , my Squad and other Mates will suddenly change from a frustrating bunch of ‘Afraid To Advancers’ into a deliciously savage swarm of ‘Impossible To Stops’ . Whenever I use my stealth skills to get all the way to the far Flag by myself and then suddenly have a half-dozen or more Mates joining me in the Cap or firefight , it’s usually because Enemy Run-n-Gun-types weren’t looking around for guys like me in the first place , like they absolutely should have . Whenever I stand BY cover and stare at any Great Beyond for 3 WHOLE seconds for possible danger , I quite rightfully get my head blown off by a Recon or swiss-cheesed by an Auto , but if I just take a quick peek and actually USE the cover , what happens is they usually shoot and blow THEIR cover . I for one am truly grateful that there’s been no ‘Day-Glo’ stitches sown into a patient that only \*needed a ‘Band-Aid’ (\*it wasn’t needed) Today , there is still NO COUNTER to the Stealth Game I sometimes Play , other than ‘pure’ vigilance on the Enemy’s part . It’s STILL a Battlefield Game . Thank You ! 🍪 edit: re : ‘Where’s the danger?’ in that snow pic on Pg2? I see a guns shadow on the snowline at the bottom of the darker rocks just right of center screen . True , I wouldn’t have seen him in time ‘your way’ and I’d usually die , but ‘my way’ it’s him that’ll usually die after he gets just one or two landed bullets in on me. Also , If in that split-second of ‘my way’ peeking I’m HS’d by an expert marksmen (which it looks like) , then I feel camo or lighting didn’t really matter anyway . Skill killed me . ---
**Author:** ![ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@ackers75](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ackers75)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/70 "2019-02-13T14:30:00Z")
> [@Shrediron](#): > > > [@PoppaPappo](#): > > > > > [@Shrediron](#): > > > > > > Are you completely broken! > > > > > > For christs sake man, its called camouflage for a reason. > > > > Except what you had was not camouflage. It was a Predator Alien level cloaking device! > > Incorrect. I don’t think you have ever used/experienced camouflage. It works amazingly well and can IN FACT keep you from seeing someone literally 5 feet away. Am sure in real life camouflage is great but this is a game! ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dr_steamfur/32/106628_2.png) [@Dr\_Steamfur](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Dr_Steamfur)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/71 "2019-02-13T14:37:00Z")
> [@ackers75](#): > > > [@Shrediron](#): > > > > > [@PoppaPappo](#): > > > > > > > [@Shrediron](#): > > > > > > > > Are you completely broken! > > > > > > > > For christs sake man, its called camouflage for a reason. > > > > > > Except what you had was not camouflage. It was a Predator Alien level cloaking device! > > > > Incorrect. I don’t think you have ever used/experienced camouflage. It works amazingly well and can IN FACT keep you from seeing someone literally 5 feet away. > > Am sure in real life camouflage is great but this is a game! A game that FORCES some guns to be used prone, why do you keep calling for that playstyle to be nerfed? ---
**Author:** ![ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ragnarok013/32/103211_2.png) [@ragnarok013](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ragnarok013)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/72 "2019-02-13T14:45:00Z")
> [@DANNYonPC](#): > > > [@bran1986](#): > > > > Now disable the ability to bipod while laying prone on your back and gameplay might improve significantly. > > According to Drunkze DICE is thinking about that > > Also its super unrealistic, would they put the bipod on their… ehm > > .. thing? > > HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK? If they do this @DANNYonPC I’d hope they allow us to disable going on our back completely in the options as I never intentionally lay on my back but frequently find myself in that position trying to cap a flag. ---
**Author:** ![DEADFIELDS10](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/deadfields10/32/106593_2.png) [@DEADFIELDS10](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DEADFIELDS10)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/73 "2019-02-13T15:09:00Z")
why would you start another thread on this subject when there was one already made dont get . ---
**Author:** ![Zenga](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zenga/32/107357_2.png) [@Zenga](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zenga)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/74 "2019-02-13T15:32:00Z")
> [@DANNYonPC](#): > > According to Drunkze DICE is thinking about that > > Also its super unrealistic, would they put the bipod on their… ehm > > .. thing? > > HOW DOES THAT EVEN WORK? Since we’re on topic of unrealistic things, Dice should also disable bunny hopping, ADADAD spamming, twitching and of course add stamina bar to all classes, because it’s totally unrealistic that a soldier can sprint full on for an hour, packing 3 bazookas and a ton of explosives. Also need to bring back suppression, because it’s unrealistic that someone could be unloading a 1200 rpm into your body, but you won’t twitch for a second. So, I totally agree - let’s get rid of unrealistic things! ---
**Author:** ![Zenga](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/zenga/32/107357_2.png) [@Zenga](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zenga)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/75 "2019-02-13T16:15:00Z")
Also, I’d like to retract my previous comment about limiting planes to fly only at 5 m height. I think we should just give Assault players jetpacks so they can fly. ---
**Author:** ![mahdioof](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@mahdioof](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mahdioof)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/76 "2019-02-13T19:44:00Z")
> [@Shrediron](#): > > This has all the hallmarks of listening to a you tube personality who hates prone players. > > You nerfed MMG’s when you removed suppression in beta. > You nerfed MMG’s when you nerfed MMG’s with added recoil and spread. > You nerfed MMG’s when you buffed flares (stationary targets are much easier to find than ones who moved from the flare position 2 seconds ago) > and now you nerf MMG’s by reducing their ability to be unseen, even though the netcode STILL favors moving targets in this game vs stationary. > > But let me clue you in about this visibility change, because you clearly need it. > The people whining that they can not see prone players will NOT be satisfied until you literally make the target glow. > > I created a mockup for you to go by to illustrate what these players are really looking for, even though they routinely brag about “skill”. > > [post edited by moderator] hehe a pig camper kid get out this game this is not campy game kiddo byby ---
**Author:** ![KingsportCowboy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@KingsportCowboy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingsportCowboy)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/77 "2019-02-13T19:56:00Z")
> [@mahdioof](#): > > this is not campy game kiddo > byby Yes. It. Is. Everyone screams ‘you shouldn’t be camping then hurrhurr’. Then what exactly do you want Mg players to do? What do you expect from us? If we don’t lay down WE WON’T KILL ANYTHING. Why is that so hard to understand? You’re asking for an INTENDED/DESINGED playstyle to be removed and there’s so much whining from run n gun cod action man that dice is catering to it. At this rate there’s no reason for MGs being in the game. I’m sorry you don’t have the attention span to sit still but some of us actually do. This really boils my blood. Just because everyone zergs doesn’t mean you’re supposed to. ---
**Author:** ![TacticulBacon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tacticulbacon/32/103690_2.png) [@TacticulBacon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TacticulBacon)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/78 "2019-02-13T20:51:00Z")
> [@KingsportCowboy](#): > > > [@mahdioof](#): > > > > this is not campy game kiddo > > byby > > Yes. It. Is. Everyone screams ‘you shouldn’t be camping then hurrhurr’. Then what exactly do you want Mg players to do? What do you expect from us? If we don’t lay down WE WON’T KILL ANYTHING. Why is that so hard to understand? You’re asking for an INTENDED/DESINGED playstyle to be removed and there’s so much whining from run n gun cod action man that dice is catering to it. At this rate there’s no reason for MGs being in the game. I’m sorry you don’t have the attention span to sit still but some of us actually do. This really boils my blood. Just because everyone zergs doesn’t mean you’re supposed to. “I have to learn how to actually play the game instead of camping the entire match and this upsets me” ---
**Author:** ![KingsportCowboy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@KingsportCowboy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KingsportCowboy)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/79 "2019-02-13T20:59:00Z")
[Removed - let’s keep the toxic behaviour out of your posts, this is unwelcome behaviour] ---
**Author:** ![Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pelliy)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564/80 "2019-02-13T21:53:00Z")
> [@Batman696](#): > > IMO There was no visibility issue. Is this not a game based on a war setting? Is camo not supposed to work? Do players really not want to go stealthy? > > If the players are so concerned about enemy visibility , don all the characters in bright pink clothing with no choice to customize. Happy ? you can see everyone now. No hiding. Doesn’t that sound stupid? > > I personally love that fact that I can hide using the shadows or terrain that matches my camo uniform. It allows me to defend objectives or ambush runners trying to flank the bulk of our team. Please Dice, don’t ruin this game by listening to bad players. > > As for you bad players. 3d spotting exists… its in the scout class. They are called binoculars. Make a squad , have one of your squad members play scout. shouldn’t be hard to get a sniper. This was a squad based teamwork game right? You run with your squad to objectives. You win more often that way. You really shouldn’t be calling people who disagree with the visibility argument, bad players. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564.md?page=3) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/visibility-changes/106564.md?page=5)