# Want to learn how to dogfight better? **URL:** \ **Category:** Console\ **Created:** [November 29, 2016, 5:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/want-to-learn-how-to-dogfight-better/104274 "2016-11-29T05:41:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 10
**Author:** ![KorpusDraige](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/korpusdraige/32/102566_2.png) [@KorpusDraige](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/KorpusDraige)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/want-to-learn-how-to-dogfight-better/104274/10 "2016-11-30T18:15:00Z")
> [@AMPxGhillie](#): > > > [@KorpusDraige](#): > > > > > [@ITY53](#): > > > > > > How does this help you dogfight? In a regular match you will never fight by rules or against a set load out so this doesn’t help with anything > > > > You need both skill sets (dogfighting and Conquest) to make it by. If you can’t dogfight and you’re up against someone who can… Well, goodluck. This isn’t new haha. It is why most good pilots get “hackusations” from pub pilots, not understanding what just happened. Trust me, it matters and it helps. Let me ask you, what do you even know on this subject to warrant that “this doesn’t help anything”? > > > > If you’re serious about flying, this is how you’ll improve your game and get rid of those pub pilots faster then you could before. So either you want to improve or you don’t, the choice is yours. If you do fly, I challenge you to come into an open server against me and I can prove you wrong. > > Coming from a pub pilot in BF3 all the way up until now, you don’t need to practice dogfighting. More often than not you get shot down by AA guns, get double teamed, or just get rammed by a fighter with super speed. > > You just need to find the speed where it turns the sharpest. Do that, and you’re golden. You’re wrong. There is so much more to it than that. It is guys like you who message me and complain that my attack jet shouldn’t of “out turned” your stealth jet. Just because you know how to “313” doesn’t mean you know what you’re doing… Even worse in BF1 now that there is no speed control. Flying in Conquest/Operations is still critical alongside practicing dogfighting. You need both skills. However, through 1v1 practice you’ll cut down the time it takes to dogfight someone. It is by popular complaints saying, “I don’t want to circle with someone for 5 minutes”… That comment I see right there could be solved with a bit of practice. You can still fly in Conquest to keep you sharp there as well, but saying you don’t need to know how to dogfight is a mistake. This is why the community will never get better and improve, you simply refuse to haha. It’s like RudeJude said, either you want to get better or you don’t. If you don’t believe in this, you’re ALSO more than welcome to challenge me? But you won’t do it, you won’t face me in either a 1v1 OR in a standard Conquest match. Why? Because you’re wrong. It can be either BF4 or BF1. None of this is new to me. I’ve flown as a pub pilot through most of BF3, learned how to dogfight a bit at the end of BF3. I dogfought a lot more throughout BF4 and flew a lot of public matches, making my #1 on all platforms for Attack Jets in terms of kills. But kills mean nothing over skill. I did countless scrims during BF4 as well. Some examples of playing in CQ?: Battlefield 1: [![Video: Battlefield 1- Attack Plane 50-0 | Making AA Guns My ****](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/f/a/fa78954481161dfadfc63521ed114f9156a3a5a0.jpeg "Battlefield 1- Attack Plane 50-0 | Making AA Guns My \*\*\*\*") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYkl9xJmhK8) Battlefield 4: [![Video: Battlefield 4- Attack Jet Gameplay | 91-0](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/b/9/b9d531af36dbf2d0d49475201e6fbaba522c9f98.jpeg "Battlefield 4- Attack Jet Gameplay | 91-0") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMDQHtN6SDc) Battlefield 4 scrim: [![Video: Battlefield 4- TE5 vs Ranger | 12v12 | Rogue CN Side](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/6/f/6f9a33bb9c3fe5cfa4b936600873e228a20874b8.jpeg "Battlefield 4- TE5 vs Ranger | 12v12 | Rogue CN Side") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPAJ-7_ca1A) So don’t think all I do is 1v1s. 1v1s have made me and others so much better when playing along side public matches. --- _[View the full topic](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/want-to-learn-how-to-dogfight-better/104274)._