# What happend with seeing through Smoke?? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 9, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298 "2016-05-09T01:49:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HaroldHell1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/8c91f0/32.png) [@HaroldHell1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HaroldHell1)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/1 "2016-05-09T01:49:00Z")
Why do the thermal scopes in Battlefeild 4 not see through the smoke clouds anymore.? It was a great mechanic. Please bring it back. ---
**Author:** ![m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/m1k3ol)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 5:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/2 "2016-05-09T05:22:00Z")
It was removed on a past update, check the patch notes on Battlelog… So, in that sense, no, it won’t be coming back (as it seems for now) ---
**Author:** ![spitfiresiemion](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/spitfiresiemion/32/103581_2.png) [@spitfiresiemion](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/spitfiresiemion)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 10:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/3 "2016-05-10T10:00:00Z")
I think it was mostly related to people spamming smoke on their own location and shooting through it with their primaries. Personally, I don’t really mind that particular change. ---
**Author:** ![DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/davtan/32/101656_2.png) [@DavTan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DavTan)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/4 "2016-05-10T15:26:00Z")
> [@HaroldHell1](#): > > Why do the thermal scopes in Battlefeild 4 not see through the smoke clouds anymore.? It was a great mechanic. Please bring it back. it was a horrible mechanic imo … at least smoke is usable now as a counter to vehicle thermals for infantry ---
**Author:** ![Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/peccath/32/103094_2.png) [@Peccath](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Peccath)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/5 "2016-05-11T12:24:00Z")
That change made Rush so much better, so I’m glad they did it! ---
**Author:** ![Strac\_CRO](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@Strac\_CRO](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Strac_CRO)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/6 "2016-05-11T14:03:00Z")
> [@DavTan](#): > > > [@HaroldHell1](#): > > > > Why do the thermal scopes in Battlefeild 4 not see through the smoke clouds anymore.? It was a great mechanic. Please bring it back. > > it was a horrible mechanic imo … at least smoke is usable now as a counter to vehicle thermals for infantry A+ ---
**Author:** ![SuperDeluxe7](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@SuperDeluxe7](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SuperDeluxe7)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/7 "2016-05-22T07:25:00Z")
> [@HaroldHell1](#): > > Why do the thermal scopes in Battlefeild 4 not see through the smoke clouds anymore.? It was a great mechanic. Please bring it back. LOL good one. Gave me a good laugh OP. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![NobleIndianChief](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/nobleindianchief/32/105675_2.png) [@NobleIndianChief](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NobleIndianChief)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/8 "2016-05-22T16:01:00Z")
DICE went full ---
**Author:** ![kingjeffrey420](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@kingjeffrey420](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/kingjeffrey420)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/9 "2016-07-16T05:09:00Z")
I get that it’s spammy. I hate it when it’s done to me. And I don’t do it. But there is a level of realism lacking now. ---
**Author:** ![mckrackin5324](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mckrackin5324/32/102776_2.png) [@mckrackin5324](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mckrackin5324)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 5:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/10 "2016-07-16T05:46:00Z")
> [@kingjeffrey420](#): > > I get that it’s spammy. I hate it when it’s done to me. And I don’t do it. But there is a level of realism lacking now. Really? How many real life thermal sights have you used? Smoke is basically a form of heat…thermals don’t work well at all in it. ---
**Author:** ![jbro10](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jbro10/32/105612_2.png) [@jbro10](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jbro10)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/11 "2016-07-16T12:41:00Z")
This is great news didnt know it as I have been carrying smoke for months now …cant do without it. ---
**Author:** ![K1C9G8I7BA](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/k1c9g8i7ba/32/105619_2.png) [@K1C9G8I7BA](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/K1C9G8I7BA)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/12 "2016-07-16T13:52:00Z")
It should be more realistic ---
**Author:** ![mpls\_big\_daddy](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mpls_big_daddy/32/102862_2.png) [@mpls\_big\_daddy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mpls_big_daddy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/13 "2016-07-16T14:21:00Z")
No, this was the perfect change. Use smoke to cover a flank. Use smoke to hide and distance infantry from armor. Smoke is a moveable wall. Close to you so you can scoot the corner. Close to them for a massive wall. And you’ve got easy kills for those people who seem to can’t stop themselves from advancing through smoke. I throw down smoke a lot to cover reviving my squad when we’re under fire. I’ve switched all my kits to smoke. It’s the best infantry tool out there. ---
**Author:** ![K1C9G8I7BA](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/k1c9g8i7ba/32/105619_2.png) [@K1C9G8I7BA](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/K1C9G8I7BA)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/14 "2016-07-16T15:15:00Z")
> [@mpls\_big\_daddy](#): > > No, this was the perfect change. > > Use smoke to cover a flank. > Use smoke to hide and distance infantry from armor. > Smoke is a moveable wall. Close to you so you can scoot the corner. Close to them for a massive wall. > > And you’ve got easy kills for those people who seem to can’t stop themselves from advancing through smoke. > > I throw down smoke a lot to cover reviving my squad when we’re under fire. > > I’ve switched all my kits to smoke. It’s the best infantry tool out there. To the ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯ ---
**Author:** ![xROLLIN\_STON3x](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xrollin_ston3x/32/104129_2.png) [@xROLLIN\_STON3x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xROLLIN_STON3x)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/15 "2016-07-16T15:31:00Z")
Support guys sits on ammo box with LMG, FLIR/IRV and smokes and doesn’t move for 10 minutes, it also took any tactical element away from smoke. ---
**Author:** ![mpls\_big\_daddy](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mpls_big_daddy/32/102862_2.png) [@mpls\_big\_daddy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mpls_big_daddy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/16 "2016-07-16T17:31:00Z")
It’s a video game. It has realistic elements, but those elements must be balanced, kneaded and mixed into the game. At first, as someone who enjoys ground armor, I didn’t like not seeing through smoke. But it’s a good counter and defensive tool, and what’s not to like about that? It adds an element of unpredictability in its tactical use that is most welcome, and in infantry vs armor, it gives David a chance against Goliath, instead of armor just squashing infantry all day long. Which, don’t get me wrong, I enjoy killing mindless infantry who try to take on armor with no thoughts about how to do it, except running at me head-on. Hooah! ---
**Author:** ![twonkydo01](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/twonkydo01/32/103919_2.png) [@twonkydo01](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/twonkydo01)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-happend-with-seeing-through-smoke/104298/17 "2016-07-16T18:44:00Z")
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