# What is going on with the balance? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226 "2018-02-17T15:53:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BobsAndVegane](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BobsAndVegane](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BobsAndVegane)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/1 "2018-02-17T15:53:00Z")
It’s no secret that most games are stacked. However, normally one team would lose by like 300 or 400 points. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend. **EVERY** game I’ve been in resulted in one team losing by like 700 or 800 points. One team manages to capture all the important flags, and the other team inevitably gets pushed back to their spawn or one or two of their gimme flags. It’s like the balancer was purposely made worse somehow, but I know that isn’t the case. Has anyone else noticed this? It’s not a fun experience no matter what team you’re on. ---
**Author:** ![NANACHl](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/e95f7d/32.png) [@NANACHl](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/NANACHl)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/2 "2018-02-17T16:08:00Z")
Yeah it is not good,to be winner in such team makes weapon unlocks and assigments impossible. To be loser in such team is frustrating at every level. It ends up being 32 vs 12 supports shooting mortars at each other in game where one team has 1900tickets and the other 0 to 500 but it is not new thing at all,maybe you are just less lucky now ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Queen\_NL](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@Ice\_Queen\_NL](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ice_Queen_NL)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/3 "2018-02-17T16:17:00Z")
When will you fix the matchmaking/teambalance in this game? 3 weeks before the next Battlefield launches, or never? ☹ Take a look at the scoreboard. Another countless rank 130 players in the enemy team, we have 1 and our team was getting owned. This is happening too often. And even more after the latest patch, or it’s just a placebo effect?! but it feels like it’s happening way more often then before. ![](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/d/b/db90601d990f3bff38daae2f86adf79b25c02089.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![BobsAndVegane](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BobsAndVegane](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BobsAndVegane)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/4 "2018-02-17T17:52:00Z")
I just recently completed the operation campaign for some more scraps. So I joined in a game as an attacker on Oil of Empires and my team obviously had the advantage. Most of the people over level 100 were on my team, and we won the operation without losing a single battalion. Next game, I figured the game would get balanced since the last operation was objectively one sided. The result? I’ll post a screenshot. All the level 130s have a red tic mark next to them, and all the over level 100s have a green tic mark next to them. Not necessarily because they must be good, but because they should know the most about the game. ![Unbalance.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/0/6/060f0b087fa52808c3d823a8c54ba667ab73dc87.jpeg) It goes without saying that we won. ---
**Author:** ![lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lucidstorm/32/102687_2.png) [@lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lucidstorm)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/5 "2018-02-17T18:08:00Z")
the most horrible balance in any game at any time in human history even worse than SWBF ---
**Author:** ![Puckerbucket](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/puckerbucket/32/103184_2.png) [@Puckerbucket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Puckerbucket)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/6 "2018-02-17T18:39:00Z")
@BobsAndVegane just out of curiosity, what region were you playing in? Only asking because of some data collection I’m running… ---
**Author:** ![lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lucidstorm/32/102687_2.png) [@lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lucidstorm)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/7 "2018-02-17T18:50:00Z")
anybody going to fix the balancer? this is really easy to do, I am not interested in events, medals, DLCs and whatnot if the basic game system is not addressed ---
**Author:** ![TectonicGuns](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tectonicguns/32/103718_2.png) [@TectonicGuns](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TectonicGuns)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/8 "2018-02-17T18:53:00Z")
You are equating Score lopsidedness with balance. A big part of this score issue is the scoring system itself. Reverting back to BF4 scheme would see better “balance” overall. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/9 "2018-02-17T18:54:00Z")
Well, what i’m having to do after the gun change, is continually play on the “Defending” side. Using an Infantry Rifle, you can’t seem to be on the attack and be effective. You have to be long range, and on the defense. Or at times, if we’re getting squashed, i’ll just switch sides or leave for another game. In total, maybe some folks are changing sides in so the game can playable for them after the gun changes. ---
**Author:** ![lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lucidstorm/32/102687_2.png) [@lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lucidstorm)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/10 "2018-02-17T18:55:00Z")
> [@TectonicGuns](#): > > You are equating Score lopsidedness with balance. I really can’t understand how people find it fun to win 7000-0 and play vs 20 players with a full 32 man squad ---
**Author:** ![Puckerbucket](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/puckerbucket/32/103184_2.png) [@Puckerbucket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Puckerbucket)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/11 "2018-02-17T18:58:00Z")
In every thread that addresses the current balancing issues, you get one or two guys who show up insisting that nothing has changed, it’s always been this way. NO. It has NOT. Every single match now is a landslide one way or the other. Maybe 1 out of 20 games is close, the rest are trash. ---
**Author:** ![lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lucidstorm/32/102687_2.png) [@lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lucidstorm)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/12 "2018-02-17T18:59:00Z")
it has been trash since day 0 for me (the balancer) its a pity because this game is decent, just few issues need to be addressed. I like to play bf1 inbetween bf3 sessions. More arcade and dumb game but different and somewhat funny 9/10 my game is ruined by poor balance ---
**Author:** ![BaconRebellion](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baconrebellion/32/101270_2.png) [@BaconRebellion](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BaconRebellion)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/13 "2018-02-17T19:07:00Z")
It has been extremely horrible this past week. Its to the point that I dont even want to play this game anymore. Its terrible. Its like they are actively trying to ruin this game and turn it into a paid beta for BF2018 ---
**Author:** ![aseveredfoot](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/839c29/32.png) [@aseveredfoot](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aseveredfoot)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/14 "2018-02-17T20:10:00Z")
It’s the worst on linear game modes and maps, I’ve noticed. Won a bunch of Conquest rounds 1000-290 and 1000-340, and all the frontlines matches I played were over in about 7 minutes with the top players getting 15-17 kills max cause the losing team didn’t really even try to fight back. It’s not fun in the least to be on either side of these landslides. ---
**Author:** ![BobsAndVegane](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BobsAndVegane](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BobsAndVegane)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 5:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/15 "2018-02-18T05:35:00Z")
> [@Puckerbucket](#): > > @BobsAndVegane just out of curiosity, what region were you playing in? Only asking because of some data collection I’m running… North America. ---
**Author:** ![BobsAndVegane](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BobsAndVegane](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BobsAndVegane)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/16 "2018-02-18T05:39:00Z")
> [@TectonicGuns](#): > > You are equating Score lopsidedness with balance. A big part of this score issue is the scoring system itself. Reverting back to BF4 scheme would see better “balance” overall. What? I mentioned the score because it was one of the results of the unbalanced nature of the matches. I can only think of one match I’ve played (taking all gamemodes into account) since Friday that didn’t look like the screenshot I posted from that Operations match this morning. ---
**Author:** ![Monranian](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Monranian](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Monranian)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 5:49am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/17 "2018-02-18T05:49:00Z")
> [@BobsAndVegane](#): > > I just recently completed the operation campaign for some more scraps. So I joined in a game as an attacker on Oil of Empires and my team obviously had the advantage. Most of the people over level 100 were on my team, and we won the operation without losing a single battalion. > > Next game, I figured the game would get balanced since the last operation was objectively one sided. The result? I’ll post a screenshot. All the level 130s have a red tic mark next to them, and all the over level 100s have a green tic mark next to them. Not necessarily because they must be good, but because they should know the most about the game. > > ![Unbalance.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/0/6/060f0b087fa52808c3d823a8c54ba667ab73dc87.jpeg) > > It goes without saying that we won. This happens quite often. Usually, you can predict with 90% precision which side is going to win an operation, solely based on how many 130s/100+s each team has… ---
**Author:** ![Puckerbucket](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/puckerbucket/32/103184_2.png) [@Puckerbucket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Puckerbucket)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/18 "2018-02-18T06:09:00Z")
lots of experimenting and data collection. Still more analysis to do, but I can CONFIRM this is an east coast US server issue. Much like the East servers are NOT going to recognize/display platoon flags . They’re also NOT going to balance teams. This is why we have some posters talking about “it’s no worse than ever.” They’re not play US East. It IS worse than ever. ---
**Author:** ![moosehunter1969](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@moosehunter1969](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/moosehunter1969)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 6:19am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/19 "2018-02-18T06:19:00Z")
> [@Puckerbucket](#): > > In every thread that addresses the current balancing issues, you get one or two guys who show up insisting that nothing has changed, it’s always been this way. NO. It has NOT. Every single match now is a landslide one way or the other. Maybe 1 out of 20 games is close, the rest are trash. Exaggeration doesn’t help. I’ve had some really close games recently, many with less than 50 points in it by the end and one where which finished 1000-999. The level of the player doesn’t equate to skill just played a lot, I’ve played a lot but I ain’t got no skill, it’s not an advantage having me on your side despite my high level. ---
**Author:** ![Puckerbucket](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/puckerbucket/32/103184_2.png) [@Puckerbucket](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Puckerbucket)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226/20 "2018-02-18T06:32:00Z")
there is no exaggeration. Stop it. anyone with any sense can play through five matches of conquest. Stop trying to deny facts. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-is-going-on-with-the-balance/259226.md?page=2)