Ok, hypothetical scenario. You ready?
The trailer never happened, and dice chose to do diversity in a game not set in a historical war.
Chances are the outcome would be the game selling pretty well (not as well as battlefield 1, it was just in the right time and place).
So because the game sold well, dice would have more funding and incentive to release better content.
That trailer has and always will be the bottom of the tree of problems that hurts battlefield V.
@Minigun991 why would I engage your hypothetical? I contested your opinion on women in the game.
Again, you’re using a straw man argument to conceal what seems to be some deeply set insecurities.
He’s insecure because he don’t want his ww2 game sounding like a Beyonce concert? Don’t know about that lol. As he said, if they had to do it all over again, i’m sure they would do it MUCH differently. And with that, i think he won the case.
Bfvs main problem is the core gameplay. All the bugs, laggy servers, and no anticheat aside. The game just isnt fun to play. It’s a chore. There is little to no replayability. This is coming from a guy who has several thousand hours in multiple titles in the series. I feel bf stepped away from its core style of game this time. Maps are generally more infantry focused, with far less armor. Classes are so out of balanced it’s really makes only 2 viable. The ttk is too high, for the way this game is balanced wepon wise. And armor is an afterthought on most maps.
@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6 for what? What case?
I didn’t contest that. I never ever did. So he has proven nothing about the “females in the game” case.
I think yes of course they’d do it differently. I never said otherwise.
Sure, a couple neckbeards were triggered by the game having female characters. Hardly the community as a whole and certainly not why it sold poorly.
You can object to my opinion all you want, it’s the root cause of why this game failed. That’s undeniable.
All bugs and stuff are just filler from the actions of DICE with that terrible message.
It’s not like the people who grew up playing WW2 games didn’t see females on the frontlines.
I played as one in cod finest hour, and no one had a problem with it. Why? Because she was a well written sniper for the USSR.
Right, that’s the exact lane i’m in. It’s the gameplay killed it. However, that’s for folks who decided to even buy the game. But if the devs went a different route from the beginning, we’d probably have a much bigger base despite the dropoffs.
Ok. So the huge dislike ration on the reveal trailer, and Dice insulting their players because they wanted to turn it off, saying “should we put it over or under the white male checkbox” had nothing to do with the terrible pre order sales?
Well, I guess that makes sense. I guess people just wanted to hate battlefield. It maybe a mystery we will never solve.
Honestly, if this game had the pre orders battlefield 1 did, we might already be on the Eastern front.
You’re falling for fake outrage generated by trolls and meme makers.
There is literally no evidence to support this. The people who claimed to not buy the game cause “wahmen” have time and again been shown to be a small yet extremely loud minority. Just because a crowd is loud doesn’t mean they’re large. Remember the supposed backlash/boycott attempt of Captain Marvel? That movie still went on to gross over 1 billion dollars breaking several records in the process.
Please don’t do this conspiracy stuff. No woke up and decided to hate battlefield for no reason. Especially not after the outstanding success.
DICE even took ever hashtag and tweet and put it on a screen as a way to make fun of the community who did not like it.
I’ll give you one thing. Dice/EA did say not to buy the game, but that still after the amount of backlash.
Ok, that’s great. You have some proof on what caused the pre orders to be so low.
So…lay it on me. Cause I know people didn’t just wanna hate battlefield this year. So it must be something I didn’t see.
What is it?
So your proof is some YouTuber who leans left and has 21k subscribers, and isn’t even a battlefield you tuber.
I lean left, and this guy is wrong.
I’d rather go read the article about how people who dislike females in battlefield V are people who failed history.
There is no conspiracy. The game is not good and a lot of people that played the alpha or beta knew it. Then there’s those that didn’t play them but heard via word of mouth that it was bad. Then there’s the known lack of launch content. Those are real reasons why it didn’t do as well as previous games at launch and the game continuing to be bad is keeping it from gaining any momentum.
@Minigun991 the onus of proof for all this is on you as the OP making the claims.
I think your grasp of reality and basic concepts of proof vs. opinion is fragile.
Some would say you have got a few kangaroos loose in your top paddock.
Bud, I defended battlefield V from the start. Yes, it was from the terrible advertising. It was from the females. It was from the developers insults.
Also, the information about the pre orders came out on August. I see posts from the 21st.
Battlefield V’s Beta started on September 11th.
As for the alpha, only PC player got to play it, so that’s no excuse for PS4 and Xbox owners.
So unless you know some time travel method they use, then what you said is impossible.
Bud, you are living in your own world here. You have not proven me wrong once.
All you did is walk in, say no yes yes no. Then disappear for a bit.
You agree the trailer was terrible, and then call my argument a “straw man” argument. Like you accomplish something.
You saying “it’s straw man argument” wile also not giving any counter argument shows you like to listen to yourself to stroke your own ego.
But that’s fine. Scroll past and do it on someone else’s posts. I don’t get your obsession with me.