# What would be the best gun for someone who can't hit the side of a barn? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 3, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383 "2014-04-03T17:11:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ObamaisYoGabbaGabba](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/ba8739/32.png) [@ObamaisYoGabbaGabba](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ObamaisYoGabbaGabba)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/1 "2014-04-03T17:11:07Z")
I suck.. I admit it, I just have very poor control of the mouse… I do not want to use shotguns, so what is the best gun for someone who, while not a noob, sucks at twitch shooting? what gives me the best advantage" against a younger better player I am tired of playing sniper, I am good at it, but I want to start really playing. ---
**Author:** ![Honkeyass](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@Honkeyass](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Honkeyass)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/2 "2014-04-03T17:16:59Z")
There is a variation of a micro Uzi, I would use that because the high rate of fire and the small size of it makes raising it easier. I’m not sure where it is or how to get it, I just know I’ve been killed many times by it ---
**Author:** ![DRIZZLEDUNKS](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@DRIZZLEDUNKS](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DRIZZLEDUNKS)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/3 "2014-04-03T17:17:02Z")
Carbines are pretty forgiving in full auto. ---
**Author:** ![RTFW](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RTFW](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/RTFW)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/4 "2014-04-03T17:20:44Z")
Not sure about advantage, but my sucky ass plays support mostly with the LSAT primary and M412 REX secondary. ---
**Author:** ![sxe1215](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@sxe1215](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/sxe1215)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/5 "2014-04-03T19:21:53Z")
The aku12 and Aug both with compensator and angeled grip are very accurate with almost no recoil. ---
**Author:** ![Thesleepingspy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@Thesleepingspy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Thesleepingspy)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/6 "2014-04-04T03:27:44Z")
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**Author:** ![EelEelEel](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/8491ac/32.png) [@EelEelEel](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EelEelEel)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 5:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/7 "2014-04-04T05:38:01Z")
Personally I would say G36C (Very easy to control, very stable gun) and the AKU-12 (I think this one is a little better short/medium range, use it with burst fire mode). If you run engineer a lot the AS VAL is amazing at hipfire, use it close to near medium range. Remember at medium to far ranges to do a single tap/double tap fire through sights to help with recoil. It can be a little bit of experimenting and figuring out what suits your playstyle! Hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![soupdujourdesigns](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@soupdujourdesigns](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/soupdujourdesigns)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 1:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/8 "2014-04-04T13:35:27Z")
I was so bad, but I just kept running out there and noticed that I actually was getting better. I still haven’t found my “perfect” gun but I think more important to me is the scope I use and the stability. I may really want to try out a new gun I’ve unlocked but then I just know that I will probably get 0 kills with iron sights. ---
**Author:** ![ObamaisYoGabbaGabba](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/ba8739/32.png) [@ObamaisYoGabbaGabba](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ObamaisYoGabbaGabba)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/9 "2014-04-04T14:32:18Z")
it’s good a good spread? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ObamaisYoGabbaGabba](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/ba8739/32.png) [@ObamaisYoGabbaGabba](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ObamaisYoGabbaGabba)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/10 "2014-04-04T14:32:28Z")
I suck with those also lol ---
**Author:** ![supandi](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@supandi](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/supandi)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2014, 3:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/11 "2014-04-04T15:32:39Z")
fellow sucker here. I started using SAR-21 and i’ve had good results with it. I love being a Combat Medic. Healing people with my defib and throwing in a med-kit. Try that. Trust me, people love not dying in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Khanbalyk](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@Khanbalyk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Khanbalyk)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/what-would-be-the-best-gun-for-someone-who-cant-hit-the-side-of-a-barn/111383/13 "2014-04-08T21:50:28Z")
Can’t hit shit? Don’t like shotguns? Use the M870. “_But I just said, no shotguns!_” Shut it, greenhorn! You’re not going to use the M870 because it’s a shotgun. You’re going to use it because it’s going to teach you how to hit with _every other gun_. Why? Because with that shotgun, you’re going to be able to fire 2 really powerful shots when you first see an enemy. Putting the first shot into the enemy, and then controlling that second shot to _also_ be on the enemy, is the same exact mechanism of mouse control you need to use to fire two controlled bursts from Carbines, Assault Rifles, and single shots with the DMRs. Since Snipers are society’s waste products, we can dispense with those rifles for the moment. Besides, you said you want to _really play_, not play peek-and-poke on some godforsaken hilltop. Also, I don’t know where you’re coming from so this might seem obvious, but in Battlefield, with every gun, there’s virtually no reason to NOT zoom when firing. Only at point-blank range when you’re literally doing a jump-dance in circles around the enemy should you spray. At all other times, you zoom, you fire one controlled burst, and then repeat with a second. If neither you nor your enemy is dead after that, unzoom and run somewhere with cover to reassess & reengage. Aiming for the head is preferrable (BF4 is particularly brutal about headshots, moreso than BF3 was), because even a single SMG 9mm bullet clipping the head of some asshole you can barely see at 80m can net you a kill you didn’t expect or, frankly, deserve to get. But even if you can’t shoot the head, big bulky middle is fine. Because it’s great practice AND great fun, and you’re on PC, I recommend spending some time on a Metro 24/7 server. “_But Metro is a clusterfuck!_”, you say. Yea, it is, and that’s why it’s the only level of Battlefield that people 24/7. (Well, I’ve seen a Shanghai, but there’s no accounting for taste.) It’s predictable (RU: two flags, US: one, fight up/down the stairs around the station). Ranges vary, good place to get that M870 practice. Wear earphones, turn your sound up, and enjoy the urban combat that makes Call of Duty look like the teenage pissing match it is. And now the **TL;DR: Use the ACR as Engy, F2000 as Assault**. They’re both great at zoomed firing AND passable in point-blank spraying (particularly the F2000). They were both better in BF3, but they’re still great here. In BF3 the most balanced/flexible loadout in the game was Engineer with ACR with a 6x scope (and SMAW): any target, any range. I can’t done large-scoped ACR in BF4 yet…but it works with the F2000!