# Whatever happened to Firestorm? **URL:** \ **Category:** Firestorm\ **Created:** [October 14, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803 "2019-10-14T20:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/1 "2019-10-14T20:28:00Z")
[![Video: CTE coming to BFV? - Firestorm Officially Abandoned?](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/1/9/19ae9e47159f6aefdb1c56062a0060c6218f622d.jpeg "CTE coming to BFV? - Firestorm Officially Abandoned?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgWE4Sar0Js) Levelcap had a video that detailed how fixing up Firestorm could help add to the playerbase of the core mode. Why not fix it up, make the battle royale free to play, and draw in players like so? CoD is doing the same. ---
**Author:** ![BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BeastofBourbon84](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BeastofBourbon84)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/2 "2019-10-14T21:18:00Z")
I’d rather they don’t waste any more dev resources on firestorm. It was a huge waste of time in my eyes. Make it ftp for all I care but I doubt ppl that like firestorm will have a good time seeing how inefficient anticheat seams to be 😑 ---
**Author:** ![ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChickenTheTank)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/3 "2019-10-14T21:20:00Z")
Why? Inexperienced and understaffed live service team is my best guess. Hopefully issues like this won’t be as impactful to the next live service platform DICE makes. ---
**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/4 "2019-10-14T21:26:00Z")
Firestorm is dead. Let it rest. Not many people have been interested in it. I rather see Dice focusing on proper battlefield instead of wasting more resources on Firestorm. ---
**Author:** ![ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChickenTheTank)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/5 "2019-10-14T21:35:00Z")
> [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > Firestorm is dead. Let it rest. Not many people have been interested in it. I rather see Dice focusing on proper battlefield instead of wasting more resources on Firestorm. A separate studio (Criterion) did almost all of the work to stand up firestorm. DICE likely didn’t have to contribute many resources besides a couple consultants and regular touch- in meetings so each team could discuss issues together. People peddling this theory that Firestorm drained resources from the primary game development are under-informed, and just trying to point a finger. Everyone trashing firestorm pretty much did nothing but hurt the player base for the primary game that could have been brought in through the BR experience. As someone who has played BF since the original launched on PC, and who also enjoys BRs, I find this annoying because firestorm IMO is the best BR experience on console. Before it became impossible to play a full game at least. ---
**Author:** ![llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/llphantom_limbll/32/102656_2.png) [@llPhantom\_Limbll](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/llPhantom_Limbll)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/6 "2019-10-14T21:40:00Z")
> [@ChickenTheTank](#): > > > [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > > > Firestorm is dead. Let it rest. Not many people have been interested in it. I rather see Dice focusing on proper battlefield instead of wasting more resources on Firestorm. > > A separate studio (Criterion) did almost all of the work to stand up firestorm. DICE likely didn’t have to contribute many resources besides a couple consultants and regular touch- in meetings so each team could discuss issues together. > > People peddling this theory that Firestorm drained resources from the primary game development are under-informed, and just trying to point a finger. > > Everyone trashing firestorm pretty much did nothing but hurt the player base for the primary game that could have been brought in through the BR experience. As someone who has played BF since the original launched on PC, and who also enjoys BRs, I find this annoying because firestorm IMO is the best BR experience on console. Before it became impossible to play a full game at least. Criterion just developed Firestorm and that’s it. Right now all possible development will be done by Dice. And like I said they should focus on core experience instea dof working on dead mode. ---
**Author:** ![LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lolgotyertags/32/101041_2.png) [@LOLGotYerTags](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LOLGotYerTags)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/7 "2019-10-14T21:45:00Z")
Moved to the firestorm section. ---
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/8 "2019-10-14T22:35:00Z")
Thanks! Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/9 "2019-10-14T22:38:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Firestorm was a good mode, and could have brought more players into the base game as a f2p game if it had better looting and anticheat. ---
**Author:** ![ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChickenTheTank)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/10 "2019-10-15T00:31:00Z")
> [@llPhantom\_Limbll](#): > > (Quote) > Criterion just developed Firestorm and that’s it. Right now all possible development will be done by Dice. And like I said they should focus on core experience instea dof working on dead mode. Yea, that’s exactly what I said. Criterion stood firestorm up. It did not detract from the development of the game up to launch. I will give you the issues are still DICE’s fault. They launched a live service and obviously did not have the staff in place to pick up maintenance and updates of Firestorm, as well as the base game starting day 1. Even more troubling is the launch of a live service model with a very strict update release schedule, without any ability to hot fix issues. Launching a live service game without a hotfix team, plan, and process in place is market suicide against today’s competition. ---
**Author:** ![TheFieryHotSauce](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/e0b2c6/32.png) [@TheFieryHotSauce](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheFieryHotSauce)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/11 "2019-10-15T09:00:00Z")
I’m glad levelcap is talking about Firestorm at least. I just want some sort of answer from DICE - let us know whether to expect anything in the future or simply face that firestorm is never going to change. ---
**Author:** ![jroggs](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jroggs/32/106829_2.png) [@jroggs](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jroggs)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/12 "2019-10-15T12:35:00Z")
DICE’s stated position is “We’re not working on Firestorm and have shelved any significant attempts to fix or improve the game.” They’re not just letting it die, they’re encouraging it. ---
**Author:** ![TheFieryHotSauce](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/e0b2c6/32.png) [@TheFieryHotSauce](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TheFieryHotSauce)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/13 "2019-10-15T14:32:00Z")
> [@jroggs](#): > > DICE’s stated position is “We’re not working on Firestorm and have shelved any significant attempts to fix or improve the game.” They’re not just letting it die, they’re encouraging it. As YouTube would say “Firestorm didn’t just die IT WAS MURDERED” ---
**Author:** ![mesterKG](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/59ef9b/32.png) [@mesterKG](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/mesterKG)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 10:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/14 "2019-10-16T10:08:00Z")
> [@jroggs](#): > > DICE’s stated position is “We’re not working on Firestorm and have shelved any significant attempts to fix or improve the game.” They’re not just letting it die, they’re encouraging it. Where was this position stated? ---
**Author:** ![dandop\_oq7r7ppf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@dandop\_oq7r7ppf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dandop_oq7r7ppf)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/15 "2019-10-16T17:09:00Z")
The fact Dice said “we are putting firestorm updates on hold to focus on the Core game” Really just confirms Firestorm should of been a separate F2P battle royal from the start. Firestorm was sold as a part of BFV, and now they are turning their back on it. Just like Domination, Frontlines. This is a bad trend. Doesn’t matter if you personally don’t like Firestorm. You have to admit this trend of Dice ditching modes. Modes that people potentially bought the game for to begin with, is very very misleading, and wrong. My hope is they are re-evaluating what Firestorm is? If they don’t consider Firestorm a part of the core experience, than simply remove it, and make it F2P ---
**Author:** ![CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ct1924/32/106572_2.png) [@CT1924](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CT1924)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/16 "2019-10-20T00:09:00Z")
Firestorm could have attracted more players as a F2P. ---
**Author:** ![ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChickenTheTank)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/17 "2019-10-20T00:26:00Z")
> [@mesterKG](#): > > (Quote) > Where was this position stated? There was a letter to the community from a real high up producer at DICE about a month ago now where this was stated. What’s super annoying is the info was never put here, and I only ever saw it from links to reddit. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Tinman08](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mr_tinman08/32/102872_2.png) [@Mr\_Tinman08](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Mr_Tinman08)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/18 "2019-10-21T22:13:00Z")
I paid full retail price for the game and I wouldn’t have any problem if they made it free to play at this stage. This might mean you don’t have to sit in the lobby for five minutes trying to find a game and they might bring duo’s back. ---
**Author:** ![ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@ChickenTheTank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChickenTheTank)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/19 "2019-10-22T01:28:00Z")
> [@Mr\_Tinman08](#): > > I paid full retail price for the game and I wouldn’t have any problem if they made it free to play at this stage. This might mean you don’t have to sit in the lobby for five minutes trying to find a game and they might bring duo’s back. I want duos back so badly ☹ ---
**Author:** ![rock1obsta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rock1obsta/32/103288_2.png) [@rock1obsta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/rock1obsta)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803/20 "2019-10-23T16:10:00Z")
> [@ChickenTheTank](#): > > Why? Inexperienced and understaffed live service team is my best guess. > > Hopefully issues like this won’t be as impactful to the next live service platform DICE makes. Hopefully they learned that this live service is a failure, and they bring back premium. This entire concept has fallen on its face. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whatever-happened-to-firestorm/108803.md?page=2)