# whats up with the little red dots obove enemys head? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 18, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270 "2016-06-18T19:45:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrunkwoIf)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/1 "2016-06-18T19:45:00Z")
been watching some videos and it seems like all the enemys have a red dot above their head? so many times i see in a video the guy cant even see the soldier but he sees that red dot and just starts shooting in that direction just below the dot. what is this? and why is it there? is everybody wearing the same uniform or something and we need this to determine who is the bad guy? ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/2 "2016-06-18T19:56:00Z")
> [@DrunkwoIf](#): > > been watching some videos and it seems like all the enemys have a red dot above their head? so many times i see in a video the guy cant even see the soldier but he sees that red dot and just starts shooting in that direction just below the dot. what is this? and why is it there? is everybody wearing the same uniform or something and we need this to determine who is the bad guy? It’s 3D spotting just like in past BF games, just with a circle instead of a triangle. People do the same thing in past BF - just see the 3D spotting icon, and shoot at it even when they can’t physically see the person. it’s the main reason I think 3D spotting, in general, is ing stupid. ---
**Author:** ![DevilsBathtub](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/devilsbathtub/32/101705_2.png) [@DevilsBathtub](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DevilsBathtub)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/3 "2016-06-18T19:57:00Z")
its spotting. you can indicate to your team mates where the enemy are. but its dumb to me because as you said players just shoot at the icon/apple without even being able to see the player. ---
**Author:** ![s1sscottishlobo](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/s1sscottishlobo/32/103342_2.png) [@s1sscottishlobo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/s1sscottishlobo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/4 "2016-06-18T20:00:00Z")
Maybe instead of the spotting in 3d it would be an idea to just have the enemy show on the mini map, just a thought or leave it out altogether? ---
**Author:** ![DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrunkwoIf)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/5 "2016-06-18T20:03:00Z")
> [@s1sscottishlobo](#): > > Maybe instead of the spotting in 3d it would be an idea to just have the enemy show on the mini map, just a thought or leave it out altogether? This is how it use to be back when i was heavy into battlefield bf2/2142 i kind of was turned off by bad company and tried bf4 for a couple hours when it first came out but didnt have time to really get into it. really dont remember this 3d spotting thing, but it seems really f-ing stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Prime118\_PL](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a8b319/32.png) [@Prime118\_PL](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Prime118_PL)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/6 "2016-06-18T20:16:00Z")
3d spotting doesn’t make sense. DICE please only dot on minimap ---
**Author:** ![DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrunkwoIf)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/7 "2016-06-18T20:25:00Z")
even if they wanted to keep the blue dots on your guys and remove the red from the bad guys that would be fine. but this huge red dots just gives away positions way to easy and so many times people are just blindly shooting at these dots. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/8 "2016-06-18T20:49:00Z")
> [@DrunkwoIf](#): > > even if they wanted to keep the blue dots on your guys and remove the red from the bad guys that would be fine. but this huge red dots just gives away positions way to easy and so many times people are just blindly shooting at these dots. And, again, it’s been this way in the past few BF games. It’s a totally stupid system. It literally takes away from team/squad DIRECT communication and implements a system where when someone sees an enemy and presses a button, pretty much their entire team gets to know the location of said enemy as well. Which then produces the result we’re all saying is dumb - everyone shooting at the red dot/triangle to kill someone, even if they can’t physically SEE that person at all. ---
**Author:** ![Stil3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Stil3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stil3r)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/9 "2016-06-18T20:50:00Z")
I hate 3d spotting and wish it’d go away. People should actively have to you know…see the enemy in order to shoot them. You shouldn’t have giant dots above players helping you know where people are. Spotting wise it should function like a more natural spotting. Make it where when you spot someone they show up on the minimap as a blob, with no direction-facing arrow NOR movement, so it only shows their static location where they were spotted, and if they move it doesn’t show that. ---
**Author:** ![DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@DrunkwoIf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DrunkwoIf)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/whats-up-with-the-little-red-dots-obove-enemys-head/102270/10 "2016-06-18T21:09:00Z")
I think you should have to actually press something to spot them for your squad to see on mini map. not even your whole team only your squad. and it should only show up for a couple of seconds. many times in older BF if i saw a guy and i knew i wasnt going to be able to finish him off i would press the spoted key so hopefully somebody else could get to him.