# Where is the russians? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 4, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301 "2019-01-04T10:21:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BeastFromEast\_RU](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@BeastFromEast\_RU](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BeastFromEast_RU)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/1 "2019-01-04T10:21:00Z")
Hey all. Guys, can someone explain what is the reason for the complete absence of Russian weapons and content in the game. I think it is not necessary to say what contribution we have made to this war. Even from the point of view of gaming diversity, the USSR had a bunch of interesting weapons of the time, which is not in the game. In the game, even the german army are implemented in full uniform and with the weapons of that time + the characteristic voice acting and banners despite all their atrocities, that the fact of history is a fact, okay, I agree. But why developers are so fair to the “common enemy” and so unfair to an ally in the form of the USSR? Russian as if there was never. What is the reason? I think this is unfair. You can not just take it and delete it from history. It is not right. p/s: It’s cool that there is a similar site where anyone can speak. I hope I will take answer. If someone does not understand, we are talking about BF5. Sorry for any inaccurate translation, ty ---
**Author:** ![DCSTomcat](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dcstomcat/32/101664_2.png) [@DCSTomcat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DCSTomcat)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/2 "2019-01-04T10:25:00Z")
This is about Axis vs Allies, not about individual combatants. They’d probably add Russian weapons and gear for you to dress up like Russian soldiers if you want. ---
**Author:** ![IIPrest0nII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/iiprest0nii/32/101038_2.png) [@IIPrest0nII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIPrest0nII)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/3 "2019-01-04T10:31:00Z")
Soviet Union has been discussed many times and devs said they will probably add this faction when the time comes, in accordance with the tides of war. This all was discussed many times on the forums. Feel free to use search function if you want to find more information and discussions on this topic. ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 10:45am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/4 "2019-01-04T10:45:00Z")
USSR along with USA will be added during Tides of War. Dice is doing chronological WW2 walkthrough. First its Fall of Europe, then most likely its going to be USSR (22nd of June 1941 Operation Barbarossa), then USA (December 7th 1941 Battle of Pearl Harbor) etc. ---
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/5 "2019-01-04T10:57:00Z")
I don’t know how True it is but apparently dice is “tired” of doing wildly popular battles we as consumers know and want to experience. they are particularly not too fond of wake island. it seems they don’t really like battlefield anymore and they want it to be different. we clearly tell them every year what we want but they don’t think we know what we want so this is what they do. ---
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/6 "2019-01-04T11:02:00Z")
> [@YourLocalPlumber](#): > > USSR along with USA will be added during Tides of War. Dice is doing chronological WW2 walkthrough. First its Fall of Europe, then most likely its going to be USSR (22nd of June 1941 Operation Barbarossa), then USA (December 7th 1941 Battle of Pearl Harbor) etc. how about just give us all the content at once and we will our pants and they won’t have to ever cut the price in half because it’s more than worth full price. all at the same time putting other games to shame with all the awesome content. but no. trickle it. and spread it out so we become tired of everything they do and grow to resent them. ---
**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/7 "2019-01-04T11:16:00Z")
> [@full951](#): > > > [@YourLocalPlumber](#): > > > > USSR along with USA will be added during Tides of War. Dice is doing chronological WW2 walkthrough. First its Fall of Europe, then most likely its going to be USSR (22nd of June 1941 Operation Barbarossa), then USA (December 7th 1941 Battle of Pearl Harbor) etc. > > how about just give us all the content at once and we will our pants and they won’t have to ever cut the price in half because it’s more than worth full price. all at the same time putting other games to shame with all the awesome content. but no. trickle it. and spread it out so we become tired of everything they do and grow to resent them. I would imagine that some people would complain about a lack of new content had they done things that way. ---
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 11:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/8 "2019-01-04T11:24:00Z")
> [@ElliotLH](#): > > > [@full951](#): > > > > > [@YourLocalPlumber](#): > > > > > > USSR along with USA will be added during Tides of War. Dice is doing chronological WW2 walkthrough. First its Fall of Europe, then most likely its going to be USSR (22nd of June 1941 Operation Barbarossa), then USA (December 7th 1941 Battle of Pearl Harbor) etc. > > > > how about just give us all the content at once and we will our pants and they won’t have to ever cut the price in half because it’s more than worth full price. all at the same time putting other games to shame with all the awesome content. but no. trickle it. and spread it out so we become tired of everything they do and grow to resent them. > > I would imagine that some people would complain about a lack of new content had they done things that way. then that’s where they come in with the obscure events of WWII, but they are doing it backwards and leading with the obscure ---
**Author:** ![IIPrest0nII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/iiprest0nii/32/101038_2.png) [@IIPrest0nII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIPrest0nII)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 11:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/9 "2019-01-04T11:24:00Z")
@full951 Don’t use profanity please. ---
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 11:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/10 "2019-01-04T11:26:00Z")
> [@IIPrest0nII](#): > > @full951 > > Don’t use profanity please. I thought there was a working filter for that ---
**Author:** ![IIPrest0nII](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/iiprest0nii/32/101038_2.png) [@IIPrest0nII](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/IIPrest0nII)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/11 "2019-01-04T11:31:00Z")
Even with filter it’s not allowed to use profanity by forum rules. ---
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/12 "2019-01-04T11:33:00Z")
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**Author:** ![ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/elliotlh/32/101030_2.png) [@ElliotLH](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ElliotLH)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/13 "2019-01-04T11:40:00Z")
> [@full951](#): > > > [@ElliotLH](#): > > > > > [@full951](#): > > > > > > > [@YourLocalPlumber](#): > > > > > > > > USSR along with USA will be added during Tides of War. Dice is doing chronological WW2 walkthrough. First its Fall of Europe, then most likely its going to be USSR (22nd of June 1941 Operation Barbarossa), then USA (December 7th 1941 Battle of Pearl Harbor) etc. > > > > > > how about just give us all the content at once and we will our pants and they won’t have to ever cut the price in half because it’s more than worth full price. all at the same time putting other games to shame with all the awesome content. but no. trickle it. and spread it out so we become tired of everything they do and grow to resent them. > > > > I would imagine that some people would complain about a lack of new content had they done things that way. > > then that’s where they come in with the obscure events of WWII, but they are doing it backwards and leading with the obscure But then they wouldn’t be giving us all the content at once and people would just argue that content was being held back. This is my point basically: it’s a catch22 whatever they do as people will either complain about not enough launch content, not enough post-launch content or content being held back. ---
**Author:** ![Ploodovic](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Ploodovic](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ploodovic)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/14 "2019-01-04T11:53:00Z")
> [@full951](#): > > I don’t know how True it is but apparently dice is “tired” of doing wildly popular battles we as consumers know and want to experience. they are particularly not too fond of wake island. it seems they don’t really like battlefield anymore and they want it to be different. we clearly tell them every year what we want but they don’t think we know what we want so this is what they do. When DICE announced that the next Battlefield game was set in WW2, there was a lot of complaints about how this period was overdone. The approach DICE chose, to not focus on the big, famous battles, is then met with criticism. You can’t please everyone, I guess. The chronological aspect of Tides of War, is, in my opinion, a good idea in theory; bring in new factions and weapons, in new theatres of war, as the conflict progress. Maybe illustrate on a map, to get a sense of the development. Stuff like that. In practice, though, it’s poorly executed and inconsistent. Weapons (STG-44) and vehicles (Tiger) don’t follow this chronology. And it’s not very obvious that there even is a chronological aspect, considering the amount of people asking where faction X is. Come to think of it, where in the game does it actually say, that we’re now in 1940, the fall of Europe? It’s poor communication. When all content has been released for this game, it will still feature some of the famous battles. Concept art for a map that looks like Kursk has been shown, for instance. ---
**Author:** ![Ameriken05](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ameriken05/32/106452_2.png) [@Ameriken05](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ameriken05)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/15 "2019-01-04T12:06:00Z")
> [@Ploodovic](#): > > > [@full951](#): > > > > I don’t know how True it is but apparently dice is “tired” of doing wildly popular battles we as consumers know and want to experience. they are particularly not too fond of wake island. it seems they don’t really like battlefield anymore and they want it to be different. we clearly tell them every year what we want but they don’t think we know what we want so this is what they do. > > When DICE announced that the next Battlefield game was set in WW2, there was a lot of complaints about how this period was overdone. The approach DICE chose, to not focus on the big, famous battles, is then met with criticism. You can’t please everyone, I guess. > > The chronological aspect of Tides of War, is, in my opinion, a good idea in theory; bring in new factions and weapons, in new theatres of war, as the conflict progress. Maybe illustrate on a map, to get a sense of the development. Stuff like that. > > In practice, though, it’s poorly executed and inconsistent. Weapons (STG-44) and vehicles (Tiger) don’t follow this chronology. And it’s not very obvious that there even is a chronological aspect, considering the amount of people asking where faction X is. Come to think of it, where in the game does it actually say, that we’re now in 1940, the fall of Europe? It’s poor communication. > > When all content has been released for this game, it will still feature some of the famous battles. Concept art for a map that looks like Kursk has been shown, for instance. Yeah have to agree though good in theory, ToW so far is not well communicated or executed. They should have conveyed the times and places on a map a bit better, built up some stronger context to what is actually going on in the war. I think you are right that nothing has actually indicated it is 1940, and the way it jumps around to different locations, and the scant descriptions for grand operations - I can definitely see how players less familiar with the early war would be completely confused by the content. Then throw the weapon anachronisms into that and it really makes ToW feel watered-down. Nonetheless I’m enjoying the game, and to address the OP - Mother Russia will come soon my friend! Hopefully as soon as 1941 in the ToW timeline 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 12:10pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/16 "2019-01-04T12:10:00Z")
> [@ElliotLH](#): > > > [@full951](#): > > > > > [@ElliotLH](#): > > > > > > > [@full951](#): > > > > > > > > > [@YourLocalPlumber](#): > > > > > > > > > > USSR along with USA will be added during Tides of War. Dice is doing chronological WW2 walkthrough. First its Fall of Europe, then most likely its going to be USSR (22nd of June 1941 Operation Barbarossa), then USA (December 7th 1941 Battle of Pearl Harbor) etc. > > > > > > > > how about just give us all the content at once and we will our pants and they won’t have to ever cut the price in half because it’s more than worth full price. all at the same time putting other games to shame with all the awesome content. but no. trickle it. and spread it out so we become tired of everything they do and grow to resent them. > > > > > > I would imagine that some people would complain about a lack of new content had they done things that way. > > > > then that’s where they come in with the obscure events of WWII, but they are doing it backwards and leading with the obscure > > But then they wouldn’t be giving us all the content at once and people would just argue that content was being held back. > > This is my point basically: it’s a catch22 whatever they do as people will either complain about not enough launch content, not enough post-launch content or content being held back. not in this scenario. if we were given all said above we’d be satiated. talking about all factions, all weapons and vehcies and all major battles including battles previously done by them. then coming in with the obscure would not make people feel like they were holding back because we’d have so much. if we have all that people still complain content is being held back that’s only gonna be from the influence of ‘games as a service’ and them decide to hold back content behind a pay wall. that’s not what I’m suggesting they do. I’m suggesting they make a full price game charge a full price. the situation they have now is pathetic. game should not be discounted off retail for the better part of a year but they know consumers know it’s not worth full price and now they gotta make their money on micro transactions and dragging content out. they did it to themselves. I hate to say it because I really hate how premium divided the player base and made bf premium content less playable but, BF without premium is not looking so good. bf should just cost more and give us everything no BS.(80 bucks sounds good? ) just quality content at premium price point. just one version. no deluxe or multi tiered nonsense. then when they need to cut the price they can still come in at 60 bucks a copy before dropping lower. ---
**Author:** ![suffice\_ls](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@suffice\_ls](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/suffice_ls)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/17 "2019-01-04T12:44:00Z")
> [@full951](#): > > bf should just cost more and give us everything no BS.(80 bucks sounds good? ) just quality content at premium price point. just one version. no deluxe or multi tiered nonsense. then when they need to cut the price they can still come in at 60 bucks a copy before dropping lower. I was thinking this too. Charge more for the base content so that we can have more new maps and everything that we got extra in, say, BF4. To hell with this “1 map here, 1 map there, with a whole bunch of garbage like new game modes in between”. _The Majestic Valkerie_ starts playing in my head whenever I think about how crap BFV is. ---
**Author:** ![Ameriken05](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ameriken05/32/106452_2.png) [@Ameriken05](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ameriken05)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/18 "2019-01-04T13:05:00Z")
I actually kind of wish they would do a serious “game as a service” model, create a few different eras in Battlefield and continue pouring content into all of them in parallel. I’d pay an annual subscription for that, or they could use the premium/season pass model some of the other games use if F2P. That way we stop with this small window of maps/content over a 1-2 year span and really get all the things we want for the wars we want. I’d love to be bouncing back and forth between a WW1, WW2, and modern version of this game. I feel like this is kind of what they’re trying to do with this battlefield menu thing they started in BF1, but the support for those games are essentially over so it doesn’t make much sense. I’m in favor for a true “game as a service” model and keep the content/updates coming for years! ---
**Author:** ![xx\_Dante2k\_xx](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xx_dante2k_xx/32/104146_2.png) [@xx\_Dante2k\_xx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xx_Dante2k_xx)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/19 "2019-01-04T13:22:00Z")
Russia, Japan, USA and Italy will be included at some point I would imagine. ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 1:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301/20 "2019-01-04T13:27:00Z")
Yeah, that’s almost def gonna happen. I hope they go to something other than “Stalingrad” though. A huge tank map, Battle of Kursk would be great. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/where-is-the-russians/106301.md?page=2)