# Who is sticking with BF4 and leaving BF1 for others to grapple with? **URL:** \ **Category:** PC\ **Created:** [October 10, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802 "2016-10-10T17:28:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pure-Geenius](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/pure-geenius/32/105984_2.png) [@Pure-Geenius](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pure-Geenius)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/1 "2016-10-10T17:28:00Z")
+1 ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/2 "2016-10-10T17:35:00Z")
Not me. Unless BF1’s launch is anywhere near as bad as BF4s, which I don’t see after BFH and SWBFs launches being considerably smooth, BF4 will just be an underwhelming experience compared to what I’ve so far experienced playing BF1. (Again, this is if the launch is smooth like more recent titles, and BF1 doesn’t pull a BF4 launch). Because at this point in time BF4, at least in my experience (constant), is full of OoR players, has huge latency issues, many bugs, vehicles that are laughably easy to use (to the point where people get hackusations for getting 100+ kills in the MAA), and the game is absolutely chock full of people using thermals. So unless BF1 launches with bugs galore and a ton of lag, I can’t see myself going back to BF4 at all, which at the point of BF1s launch will be almost completely OoR players and will be a royal lagfest. ---
**Author:** ![xTek4x](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xtek4x/32/105807_2.png) [@xTek4x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xTek4x)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/3 "2016-10-10T18:26:00Z")
I won’t be playing BF1. What DICE did with that game is beyond words. And the gameplay wasn’t that fun in my opinion. Guns were just… let me shoot at that rock but hit the plane overhead. And when you did hit you had to hit them 10 more times. Yet I would die in 1-2 shots. Very frustrating and not worth my time. ---
**Author:** ![Tireseas](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tireseas/32/103848_2.png) [@Tireseas](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Tireseas)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/4 "2016-10-10T18:28:00Z")
I wasn’t even leaving BF4 even when I was seriously considering buying BF1. Now, I’m very much doubting I’ll even bother playing BF1 at all. ---
**Author:** ![EinNiKo](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/8c91f0/32.png) [@EinNiKo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EinNiKo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/5 "2016-10-10T18:36:00Z")
> [@xTek4x](#): > > I won’t be playing BF1. What DICE did with that game is beyond words. And the gameplay wasn’t that fun in my opinion. Guns were just… let me shoot at that rock but hit the plane overhead. And when you did hit you had to hit them 10 more times. Yet I would die in 1-2 shots. Very frustrating and not worth my time. The amount of spread is ridiculous. Even tap firing 1 a single shot with the automatics will make you miss by 3 feet to the side due to the deviation. I calculated it and it takes 9, yes 9, shots to kill at range with the assault guns. Ridiculous man. Bf1 needs to severely reduce the spread or increase the damage, maybe both, to make the gunplay more satisfying. How did we go from bf3 and bf4 gunplay to this mess? I don’t get it myself. It kinda pisses me off thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![BigF33t\_13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BigF33t\_13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BigF33t_13)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/6 "2016-10-10T19:01:00Z")
I may come back a little. But I pretty much left bf3 in the dust when bf4 came out. The alpha pretty much sold me on bf1. That’s not to say it’ll be great, but it looks promising. I don’t care what they do with the servers. I really think some admins actually need less control. ---
**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/7 "2016-10-10T22:24:00Z")
BF1 will have to prove itself to me before I buy, in particular the server rental issue is a deal-breaker for me. If server renters lose any significant portion of the control they have now in BF4, then BF1 on PC will be in real trouble. Those who think admins need less control should check out Official servers and see if that’s the sort of environment they prefer, i.e. massive levels of cheating, trolling and general juvenile delinquent behavior. Or there is an admin-free situation like SW Battlefront, which is all but dead on PC in less than a year. No thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/8 "2016-10-10T22:45:00Z")
> [@EinNiKo](#): > > The amount of spread is ridiculous. Even tap firing 1 a single shot with the automatics will make you miss by 3 feet to the side due to the deviation. I calculated it and it takes 9, yes 9, shots to kill at range with the assault guns. Ridiculous man. Bf1 needs to severely reduce the spread or increase the damage, maybe both, to make the gunplay more satisfying. lolwut? The first shot out of the magazine on SMGs in BF1 are all 100% accurate, they then start deviating after that - making true “tap firing” effective, instead of the laser beam burst firing we saw in BF4 where you could out-range an ARs effective range by dozens of meters. Did you ever think it took so many shots to kill someone with an SMG at longer ranges because, oh I don’t know, the SMG is a **close-quarters** weapon? That those weapons in the game are specifically made for closer ranged engagements, so they might have some steep damage drop-off at longer ranges? I mean, lol, you’re complaining about it requiring 9 shots to kill someone with weapons that fire faster than every single weapon type in the game, and that usually feature 30+ round magazines. What did you want, the SMGs in this game to be ARs from BF4? God rifles? They’re sub-machine guns. ---
**Author:** ![Mikex2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@Mikex2112](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Mikex2112)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/9 "2016-10-10T23:30:00Z")
Not liking this whole server debacle…IF (BIG IF)EA/Dice release info on this subject and IF it’s good news,I MIGHT buy BF1. As of right now,It’s a 100% no go for me. ---
**Author:** ![Ashby\_JC](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ashby_jc/32/101233_2.png) [@Ashby\_JC](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ashby_JC)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 11:47pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/10 "2016-10-10T23:47:00Z")
> [@Pure-Geenius-](#): > > +1 Its been 3 long years. No way im not playing BF1. ---
**Author:** ![elderwarriors](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@elderwarriors](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/elderwarriors)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 6:00am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/11 "2016-10-11T06:00:00Z")
In BF3 I was somewhat surprised at the cheats after having gotten used to COD. However, I blamed my ability, equipment and ADSL connection. Now, having improved at least 2 of those (cable connection and a bigger PC) I am absolutely amazed at the level that the cheats have reached in BF4. Will I buy BF1 ? Well they got me twice, but I can assure you all that they will not get me again. Unless they give it away for free like they did for BF4 at the end of the series. ---
**Author:** ![MorningTimeCloud](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@MorningTimeCloud](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MorningTimeCloud)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/12 "2016-10-11T07:30:00Z")
I’ll play BF4 and BF3 as i still do now as well as BF1. I personally enjoyed the alpha and beta, no reason to abandon the old games either. ---
**Author:** ![EinNiKo](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/8c91f0/32.png) [@EinNiKo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/EinNiKo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/13 "2016-10-11T22:56:00Z")
> [@Loqtrall](#): > > > [@EinNiKo](#): > > > > The amount of spread is ridiculous. Even tap firing 1 a single shot with the automatics will make you miss by 3 feet to the side due to the deviation. I calculated it and it takes 9, yes 9, shots to kill at range with the assault guns. Ridiculous man. Bf1 needs to severely reduce the spread or increase the damage, maybe both, to make the gunplay more satisfying. > > lolwut? The first shot out of the magazine on SMGs in BF1 are all 100% accurate, they then start deviating after that - making true “tap firing” effective, instead of the laser beam burst firing we saw in BF4 where you could out-range an ARs effective range by dozens of meters. Please stop spreading misinformation if you don’t know what you are talking about. The automatics in the bf1 beta had around 50% higher first shot recoil than rifles in bf4. You don’t even play on pc why are you posting in the pc section? Are you lost boy? ---
**Author:** ![parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/ee7513/32.png) [@parkingbrake](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/parkingbrake)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/14 "2016-10-11T23:05:00Z")
> [@EinNiKo](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@EinNiKo](#): > > > > > > The amount of spread is ridiculous. Even tap firing 1 a single shot with the automatics will make you miss by 3 feet to the side due to the deviation. I calculated it and it takes 9, yes 9, shots to kill at range with the assault guns. Ridiculous man. Bf1 needs to severely reduce the spread or increase the damage, maybe both, to make the gunplay more satisfying. > > > > lolwut? The first shot out of the magazine on SMGs in BF1 are all 100% accurate, they then start deviating after that - making true “tap firing” effective, instead of the laser beam burst firing we saw in BF4 where you could out-range an ARs effective range by dozens of meters. > > Please stop spreading misinformation if you don’t know what you are talking about. The automatics in the bf1 beta had around 50% higher first shot recoil than rifles in bf4. You don’t even play on pc why are you posting in the pc section? Are you lost boy? He’s right, you’re wrong. The guns in BF1 behave differently, people who figured that out got good results, people who didn’t complain about the guns. ---
**Author:** ![Yul-qqb-IPA](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/e19b73/32.png) [@Yul-qqb-IPA](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Yul-qqb-IPA)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/15 "2016-10-12T01:05:00Z")
Since gaming has new and old generations I feel like modern war games are more popular Yeah back of the day we were playing ww1 ww2 games But in this time go back 100 years ago will be not interesting as use to be Simply bf1 it is just it is mistake You didn’t improve bf4 and pop up with bf1 smell like I want to loose some money ---
**Author:** ![XTS-KingBeef](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xts-kingbeef/32/104136_2.png) [@XTS-KingBeef](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/XTS-KingBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/16 "2016-10-12T01:07:00Z")
Ww1 is a niche and will become uninteresting very quick. Hell why not a civil war bf ---
**Author:** ![Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/micas99/32/102800_2.png) [@Micas99](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Micas99)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 6:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/17 "2016-10-12T06:16:00Z")
If BF1 uses BattleEye for AC, then I’ll probably buy it and give it a go. If not, I won’t. I’m not sure if I’ll stick with BF4, or find some other game for the FPS fix. ---
**Author:** ![Jaskaman](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jaskaman/32/102365_2.png) [@Jaskaman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jaskaman)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 6:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/18 "2016-10-12T06:27:00Z")
I will stick with BF4 as long as needed-but I will test BF1 with 10 hrs EA-Access. If server issue with BF1 is solved in a satisfying way, I will buy BF1. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 9:56am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/19 "2016-10-12T09:56:00Z")
> [@EinNiKo](#): > > > [@Loqtrall](#): > > > > > [@EinNiKo](#): > > > > > > The amount of spread is ridiculous. Even tap firing 1 a single shot with the automatics will make you miss by 3 feet to the side due to the deviation. I calculated it and it takes 9, yes 9, shots to kill at range with the assault guns. Ridiculous man. Bf1 needs to severely reduce the spread or increase the damage, maybe both, to make the gunplay more satisfying. > > > > lolwut? The first shot out of the magazine on SMGs in BF1 are all 100% accurate, they then start deviating after that - making true “tap firing” effective, instead of the laser beam burst firing we saw in BF4 where you could out-range an ARs effective range by dozens of meters. > > Please stop spreading misinformation if you don’t know what you are talking about. The automatics in the bf1 beta had around 50% higher first shot recoil than rifles in bf4. You don’t even play on pc why are you posting in the pc section? Are you lost boy? “Am I lost”? This coming from the guy complaining he can’t get accuracy out of SMGs on the platform with the most accurate aiming device. I destroyed in the beta with SMGs, and you can look at my accounts for past games, I’m primarily a bolt-action rifle user. They were laughably easy to use on console - so if you’re having problems with them on PC, you should blame yourself. ---
**Author:** ![smashbery](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@smashbery](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/smashbery)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/who-is-sticking-with-bf4-and-leaving-bf1-for-others-to-grapple-with/104802/20 "2016-10-13T03:40:00Z")
> [@Micas99](#): > > If BF1 uses BattleEye for AC, then I’ll probably buy it and give it a go. If not, I won’t. I’m not sure if I’ll stick with BF4, or find some other game for the FPS fix. this was one of the many issues i have with BF1 and when looking on google to find any info about it i found that it was easyer to find cheats then info about what there going to do for AC. when i came across the cheat pages i noticed my most favored games and this made me sad, then i watched the youtube vids promoting there cheats. so many time i died on siege and i questioned and now that i seen first had how the cheats work my mind exploded. granted i dont know what the chances are of them getting cough or banned are but its stupid easy to pick up on a cheaters play style. its the worst bc the only info you get from dev is that there doing what they can or something in work to stop it. more or less saying , sry but there out there just give me your money.