# Why Am I Learning More From Jackfrags About BF5 Than DICE? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 23, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599 "2018-05-23T23:22:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Seabees4Life](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a9adbd/32.png) [@Seabees4Life](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Seabees4Life)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/1 "2018-05-23T23:22:00Z")
Why? [![Video: Battlefield V New Gameplay Features and Huge changes.](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/a/7/a74781b6d09fffa59df54b8a638485f8b9a8c4f3.jpeg "Battlefield V New Gameplay Features and Huge changes.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xegBXGaFrOU) ---
**Author:** ![DallyEnderLlama](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dallyenderllama/32/101614_2.png) [@DallyEnderLlama](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DallyEnderLlama)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/2 "2018-05-23T23:24:00Z")
Because DICE is purposely being secretive? ---
**Author:** ![moodii\_77](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/moodii_77/32/102846_2.png) [@moodii\_77](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/moodii_77)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/3 "2018-05-23T23:25:00Z")
DICE f\*\*ked up the whole thing ---
**Author:** ![Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@Pelliy](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Pelliy)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/4 "2018-05-23T23:26:00Z")
because it was the reveal. That’s what the event was about. They’re not going to talk about the changes and leave people soured when watching(even though they kinda did) llike I want to see the game. I knew that CQ overlay on a rendered cutscene was BS. Many people kept saying how it was going to look good in game on mp. I kept saying if that happens, then dice is the best devs of all time and it would revolutionize the industry. But it was a rendered scene. ---
**Author:** ![Solid\_SkG](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/solid_skg/32/103554_2.png) [@Solid\_SkG](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Solid_SkG)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/5 "2018-05-23T23:27:00Z")
BFV reveal trailer felt kinda dissapointing but i have to say after watching both Jackfrags and Westies latest videos im hyped again with my only concerne being that they wont take this customization thing too far away. ---
**Author:** ![Petedawg508](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/petedawg508/32/103109_2.png) [@Petedawg508](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Petedawg508)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/6 "2018-05-23T23:34:00Z")
yeah exactly…this video made me spring wood hard…the reveal was a letdown imo. ---
**Author:** ![LieutenantVixen](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@LieutenantVixen](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/LieutenantVixen)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/7 "2018-05-24T00:53:00Z")
Because they’re stupid. ---
**Author:** ![impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/aeb1de/32.png) [@impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/impulsive_tango)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/8 "2018-05-24T00:55:00Z")
> [@DallyEnderLlama](#): > > Because DICE is purposely being secretive? Agreed ---
**Author:** ![WesleY-O-HuanG](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/2acd7d/32.png) [@WesleY-O-HuanG](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WesleY-O-HuanG)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/9 "2018-05-24T00:58:00Z")
It’s just…“oh…EA and DICE are also making mistake in BFv… The trailer… just make people wonder should they buy it.” It’s like a food restaurant tell you everything about the background of the food materials and where were they from, but skip how they made it… The trailer, missing something important and necessary… DICE, please stop let your part-time new employees made the very important thing-trailer ---
**Author:** ![Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/noodlesocks/32/101045_2.png) [@Noodlesocks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Noodlesocks)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/10 "2018-05-24T01:09:00Z")
Dice have historically been pretty garbo when it comes to disseminating information and communicating with the end user. They rely on their pocket youtubers for that which is great if you’re into that sort of thing but anyone looking for any official sources for important information is going to be hard done by. ---
**Author:** ![trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@trip1ex](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/trip1ex)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/11 "2018-05-24T01:17:00Z")
DICE info was for the mainstream. Youtuber info for the diehards. ---
**Author:** ![baroncrovax](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/baroncrovax/32/101293_2.png) [@baroncrovax](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/baroncrovax)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/12 "2018-05-24T01:28:00Z")
As the Simpsons once said, marketing requires a three-pronged approach: subliminal, liminal and superliminal. Trailer was superliminal. Youtubers aka Communicators are liminal. Easter eggs are subliminal. Seriously why else would you think they pay and invite youtubers to events, give them special access to discussions? C’mon, man. This is all marketing and it benefits them both. ---
**Author:** ![Skull\_Tooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Skull\_Tooth](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Skull_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/13 "2018-05-24T01:34:00Z")
LOL. This is Battlefield 1 Two, complete with the same garbage maps. With no premium there will be less garbage maps so that’s a plus. ---
**Author:** ![impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/aeb1de/32.png) [@impulsive\_tango](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/impulsive_tango)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/14 "2018-05-24T01:42:00Z")
I watched the yt video and I’ll wait for the game to come out! ---
**Author:** ![Faylum](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/faylum/32/101926_2.png) [@Faylum](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Faylum)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/15 "2018-05-24T01:46:00Z")
> [@Seabees4Life](#): > > Why? > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xegBXGaFrOU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xegBXGaFrOU) Because he is on a EA payroll. ---
**Author:** ![oddnutzz](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/c77e96/32.png) [@oddnutzz](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/oddnutzz)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/16 "2018-05-24T02:11:00Z")
![SG7YmNe.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/0/2/0273a447701638f71bb0899a2fc7924d51a88f86.jpeg) ww2? hahahahahahahahahahaha some of the features sound interesting but keep the customization as period specific as possible. If EA want a a politically correct Battlefield game that panda’s to people least likely to play a battlefield game then make the period/setting fictional imo. ---
**Author:** ![TamKingski](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TamKingski](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TamKingski)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/17 "2018-05-24T02:28:00Z")
> [@Seabees4Life](#): > > Why? > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xegBXGaFrOU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xegBXGaFrOU) Are you really jackfrags in disguise? you can tell me 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Zulu\_AU](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/6de8d8/32.png) [@Zulu\_AU](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Zulu_AU)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/18 "2018-05-24T03:17:00Z")
I guess then they don’t need to pay someone and they can rely on community to pass on the information. Plus it gives then deniability if its misunderstood. And Jack did a great job in his videos and we can trust. ---
**Author:** ![Crito3](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/crito3/32/101585_2.png) [@Crito3](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Crito3)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/19 "2018-05-24T03:20:00Z")
Wow what’s this a V? the roman numeral for 5? We just had battlefield 1 (ONE), how can we have a battlefiled V (5 - confusing I know gosh!)?? The number after 1 is 2 guys!!! Where’s Battlefield 2??? ---
**Author:** ![GuN\_sLiNgErXD15](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/gun_slingerxd15/32/102144_2.png) [@GuN\_sLiNgErXD15](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GuN_sLiNgErXD15)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599/20 "2018-05-24T03:24:00Z")
Yeah his vid was great, very informative, the trailer was crazy very ott. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-am-i-learning-more-from-jackfrags-about-bf5-than-dice/105599.md?page=2)