# Why battlefield would never work as an eSport **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 8, 2016, 9:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-battlefield-would-never-work-as-an-esport/113251 "2016-11-08T09:34:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![incapslap](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/d6d6ee/32.png) [@incapslap](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/incapslap)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-battlefield-would-never-work-as-an-esport/113251/41 "2016-11-11T16:46:00Z")
> [@Austacker](#): > > This game would never work as an esport because DICE can’t balance guns and classes at all. They’ve proven it in every Battlefield they’ve ever made. > > Right now, Medics and scouts are stupidly OP. > > They’ll keep rebalancing during the lifecycle of the game, but it’s nothing new. > > Battlefield has _never_ been truly balanced, so it’ll _never_ be a serious e-sport. > > Ever. No games are truly balanced. CS isn’t balanced. Esports players generally make changes based upon what works in competitive. In Left 4 Dead (because that’s where I had the most experience) this meant no medkits were taken from the safe room and only starter weapons could be used (because Autoshotties mostly were extremely overpowered, plus the slowing effects of the sniper). A problem is that games have a casual meta and a competitive meta. One game that clearly demonstrated this was Evolve. They nerfed the monsters really hard because of casuals, and in the end monsters only had about a 30% win-rate, while in casual they still had around 65%. That is a huge difference. In Battlefield the meta difference is in the use of snipers and support. One of the biggest ironies of casual Battlefield is how people are always talking about the need for ammo, and these people generally have a k/d of 0.5-1.5. Why do you need so much ammo when you are only getting one kill at a time? In comp no one plays support or scout unless they are trolling in a scrim. For one of the big games today you can look at MOBA’s or Overwatch. It’s exactly the same thing, the overpowered characters in casual games, especially at low levels tend to be useless in comp. ---
**Author:** ![lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lucidstorm/32/102687_2.png) [@lucidstorm](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lucidstorm)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-battlefield-would-never-work-as-an-esport/113251/42 "2016-11-11T22:07:00Z")
> [@](#): > > He literally says nothing positive or negative about CoD - you should read instead of being a . I just can’t ---
**Author:** ![DXMIMZY](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DXMIMZY](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DXMIMZY)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-battlefield-would-never-work-as-an-esport/113251/43 "2019-01-10T11:21:00Z")
Ik this thread is about 2 years old, but just to update you all…the leading Battlefield Competitive Community, the HARDCORE LEAGUE, is now getting support from EA and DICE with plenty of Viewers, Teams, and Coverage to obtain the vision of 32 Player Counted Teams to become a new Esport Platform that can compete just as well against COD, CS GO, League of Legends, and so on. You know why a game can never make it to certain levels of Competitive game play? Its because it doesn’t get community support. I don’t think the question is, “Will it ever become an Esport game?” The real question with communities today is, “Do we WANT it to become an Esport Game?” And in my opinion, most of the people who doubt it to ever get to such a platform, are mostly filled with people who don’t want it that way in the first place and deny to support the cause. Hints why this entire forum is feeled with all the negative ideas that Battlefield could never become an Esport Franchise. If you want it to have a scene, then join the cause. Esports isn’t about “HOW” it becomes big. Its about ‘WHO’ gets it to become big, and it all starts with the community either wanting it, or hating it. No matter if we think it could ever become one, there are games I don’t understand how could have ever made it to the Esport scene for how dumb and unattractive it truly is. There are Esports for MOBILE games for crying out loud! And this entire thread speaks about how dumb it would be for Battlefield to have an Esport Scene? Its on the Road to Esports as we speak, so the only thing left for players to do is either join in as a competitive player and join a Team, or just sit and watch…Or not watch at all. It all comes down to supporting it. ---
**Author:** ![Titan\_Awaken](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/titan_awaken/32/103849_2.png) [@Titan\_Awaken](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Titan_Awaken)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-battlefield-would-never-work-as-an-esport/113251/44 "2019-01-10T22:49:00Z")
> [@DXMIMZY](#): > > Ik this thread is about 2 years old, but just to update you all…the leading Battlefield Competitive Community, the HARDCORE LEAGUE, is now getting support from EA and DICE with plenty of Viewers, Teams, and Coverage to obtain the vision of 32 Player Counted Teams to become a new Esport Platform that can compete just as well against COD, CS GO, League of Legends, and so on. You know why a game can never make it to certain levels of Competitive game play? Its because it doesn’t get community support. I don’t think the question is, “Will it ever become an Esport game?” The real question with communities today is, “Do we WANT it to become an Esport Game?” And in my opinion, most of the people who doubt it to ever get to such a platform, are mostly filled with people who don’t want it that way in the first place and deny to support the cause. Hints why this entire forum is feeled with all the negative ideas that Battlefield could never become an Esport Franchise. If you want it to have a scene, then join the cause. Esports isn’t about “HOW” it becomes big. Its about ‘WHO’ gets it to become big, and it all starts with the community either wanting it, or hating it. No matter if we think it could ever become one, there are games I don’t understand how could have ever made it to the Esport scene for how dumb and unattractive it truly is. There are Esports for MOBILE games for crying out loud! And this entire thread speaks about how dumb it would be for Battlefield to have an Esport Scene? Its on the Road to Esports as we speak, so the only thing left for players to do is either join in as a competitive player and join a Team, or just sit and watch…Or not watch at all. It all comes down to supporting it. I agree, a competitive ESports scene could never develop without both developer and community support. You know what else developers and the community don’t support? Necroing 2 year old threads and ranting. At this point you’re literally just talking to yourself. I’m willing to bet that most of the contributors to this thread have been long gone and have moved on. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-battlefield-would-never-work-as-an-esport/113251.md?page=2)