# Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 11, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542 "2019-02-11T03:47:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![0SiGHT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/0sight0/32/101092_2.png) [@0SiGHT0](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/0SiGHT0)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/1 "2019-02-11T03:47:00Z")
Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? ---
**Author:** ![skippylarue](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/skippylarue/32/103510_2.png) [@skippylarue](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/skippylarue)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 6:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/2 "2019-02-11T06:05:00Z")
The short answer is because the random spread deviation featured in BF1 was loathed by a large portion of the community (including many people on this forum). ---
**Author:** ![herodes87](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@herodes87](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/herodes87)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 6:16am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/3 "2019-02-11T06:16:00Z")
Because BFV Takes more Skill. Lol ---
**Author:** ![MinZhuZhongGuo](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@MinZhuZhongGuo](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MinZhuZhongGuo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 6:41am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/4 "2019-02-11T06:41:00Z")
that’s the skill-based gameplay that the Core Community cried out for, with assaults’ explosive spams combined. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 6:50am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/5 "2019-02-11T06:50:00Z")
> [@AsokoSakechauuuu](#): > > that’s the skill-based gameplay that the Core Community cried out for, with assaults’ explosive spams combined. So we got the new action man assault class with even more explosive spam and even easier to control guns ---
**Author:** ![VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/ce7236/32.png) [@VincentNZ](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/VincentNZ)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/6 "2019-02-11T08:13:00Z")
> [@skippylarue](#): > > The short answer is because the random spread deviation featured in BF1 was loathed by a large portion of the community (including many people on this forum). Pretty much this. People never liked spread, mostly because they lacked the knowledge of how it worked and how extensive it was. It was a welcome scapegoat, too: “Oh I got killed because of suppression.” “I lost to that guy because of spread, this is such a noob crutch.” “Spread makes my bullets come out at a 90° angle.” Then BF1 happened with genius ideas like First Shot spread multiplier and negative spread, where everyone could suddenly see and feel the effects. This is why they removed it regardless, of it being beneficial to the game. To be fair though base spread is still in the game, it is just irrelevant in most cases. What really is missing is SIPS, that is the reason why the semi-autos are so dominant, paired with them having no h-rec. A really genius idea, when you do not have to pace your shots. BF3+4 system was definitely better and more balanced for the average player. ---
**Author:** ![GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/grizzgolf/32/102129_2.png) [@GrizzGolf](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GrizzGolf)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 8:14am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/7 "2019-02-11T08:14:00Z")
> [@0SiGHT0](#): > > Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? I thought all guns had some kind of recoil? ---
**Author:** ![jlayton1982](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/45deac/32.png) [@jlayton1982](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/jlayton1982)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/8 "2019-02-11T09:06:00Z")
> [@GrizzGolf](#): > > > [@0SiGHT0](#): > > > > Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? > > I thought all guns had some kind of recoil? I thought they all recoiled and kicked in a certain direction to give some form of deviation. The skill then being to learn how the gun kicks to control it. ---
**Author:** ![Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hawxxeye/32/101036_2.png) [@Hawxxeye](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Hawxxeye)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 9:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/9 "2019-02-11T09:30:00Z")
> [@jlayton1982](#): > > > [@GrizzGolf](#): > > > > > [@0SiGHT0](#): > > > > > > Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? > > > > I thought all guns had some kind of recoil? > > I thought they all recoiled and kicked in a certain direction to give some form of deviation. > > The skill then being to learn how the gun kicks to control it. however the good guns kill people before the recoil becomes a factor ---
**Author:** ![full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/full951/32/102018_2.png) [@full951](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/full951)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/10 "2019-02-11T10:40:00Z")
because you’re on such a level that you perceive no recoil from years of battlefield pwnage ---
**Author:** ![Thacyoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thacyoon/32/107223_2.png) [@Thacyoon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Thacyoon)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 11:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/11 "2019-02-11T11:38:00Z")
> [@0SiGHT0](#): > > Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? Have you ever tried a MMG, like the MG42? [Support (MMG) is now NERFED back to the stone age in BF5](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/support-mmg-is-now-nerfed-back-to-the-stone-age-in-bf5/106390) All the spread and recoil was given to the Support class when they nerfed the class back to the stone age. ---
**Author:** ![CPTN-Cr4ptastic](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/ee59a6/32.png) [@CPTN-Cr4ptastic](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CPTN-Cr4ptastic)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/12 "2019-02-11T12:06:00Z")
If you don’t counter the muzzle climb, they do have recoil. Recoil is just easier to counter in BF5, and I find the gun play to be much more enjoyable too tell you the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 12:16pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/13 "2019-02-11T12:16:00Z")
I don’t think you actually know what absolutely no recoil or spread whatsoever actually looks like. ---
**Author:** ![spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/spartanx169x)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/14 "2019-02-11T12:46:00Z")
> [@0SiGHT0](#): > > Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? I’m guessing you play on PC, because on console that is not the case. ---
**Author:** ![l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@l\_water\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/l_water_l)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/15 "2019-02-11T14:11:00Z")
> [@spartanx169x](#): > > > [@0SiGHT0](#): > > > > Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? > > I’m guessing you play on PC, because on console that is not the case. And unfortunately, for the most part, they do not balance PC and console separately. If they did I think everyone would enjoy the game much more. ---
**Author:** ![YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/yourlocalplumber/32/103277_2.png) [@YourLocalPlumber](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/YourLocalPlumber)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/16 "2019-02-11T14:15:00Z")
> [@l\_water\_l](#): > > > [@spartanx169x](#): > > > > > [@0SiGHT0](#): > > > > > > Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? > > > > I’m guessing you play on PC, because on console that is not the case. > > And unfortunately, for the most part, they do not balance PC and console separately. If they did I think everyone would enjoy the game much more. Actually consoles have 0.75 recoil multiplier, meaning guns have 25% less recoil compared to PC. + They have aimbot, excuse me, “Aim assist” ---
**Author:** ![xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/97f17d/32.png) [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xBCxSEALxTEAMx6)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/17 "2019-02-11T14:17:00Z")
The answer is, they wanted to make the game COD with bigger maps. They been wanting to do that for awhile. Dice LA (formerly Danger Close games) tried that with Medal of Honor. We all know the results of that. The fact is, Infinite Warfail had many defectors that came here, and their vision of the game coincided with DICE, with the no recoil, fast ttk and smaller maps, and the classic and succesful BF’s we know and love, now gone. We are now seeing the result of those ill advised decisions. ---
**Author:** ![spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spartanx169x](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/spartanx169x)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/18 "2019-02-11T14:17:00Z")
> [@l\_water\_l](#): > > > [@spartanx169x](#): > > > > > [@0SiGHT0](#): > > > > > > Why do so many guns in this game have literally no recoil or spread at all? > > > > I’m guessing you play on PC, because on console that is not the case. > > And unfortunately, for the most part, they do not balance PC and console separately. If they did I think everyone would enjoy the game much more. I have been ranting about that since TTK 2.0 on BF1. What works on console often OFTEN(not directed at you) does not work on PC and vice versa. It is the root cause of I would guess as much as half the arguements on this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/loqtrall/32/100975_2.png) [@Loqtrall](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Loqtrall)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/19 "2019-02-11T14:32:00Z")
> [@xBCxSEALxTEAMx6](#): > > The answer is, they wanted to make the game COD with bigger maps. They been wanting to do that for awhile. Dice LA (formerly Danger Close games) tried that with Medal of Honor. We all know the results of that. > > The fact is, Infinite Warfail had many defectors that came here, and their vision of the game coincided with DICE, with the no recoil, fast ttk and smaller maps, and the classic and succesful BF’s we know and love, now gone. We are now seeing the result of those ill advised decisions. I’d wager the answer is closer to the OP severely exaggerating. ---
**Author:** ![M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@M\_Rat13](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/M_Rat13)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542/20 "2019-02-11T15:28:00Z")
> [@VincentNZ](#): > > > [@skippylarue](#): > > > > The short answer is because the random spread deviation featured in BF1 was loathed by a large portion of the community (including many people on this forum). > > Pretty much this. People never liked spread, mostly because they lacked the knowledge of how it worked and how extensive it was. It was a welcome scapegoat, too: “Oh I got killed because of suppression.” “I lost to that guy because of spread, this is such a noob crutch.” “Spread makes my bullets come out at a 90° angle.” Then BF1 happened with genius ideas like First Shot spread multiplier and negative spread, where everyone could suddenly see and feel the effects. This is why they removed it regardless, of it being beneficial to the game. > To be fair though base spread is still in the game, it is just irrelevant in most cases. What really is missing is SIPS, that is the reason why the semi-autos are so dominant, paired with them having no h-rec. A really genius idea, when you do not have to pace your shots. > BF3+4 system was definitely better and more balanced for the average player. Bf3+4 were so balanced, ARs could out shoot sniper rifles, lol. [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-do-so-many-guns-in-this-game-have-literally-no-recoil-or-spread-at-all/106542.md?page=2)