# Why is BF1 so desrespected? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 13, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-bf1-so-desrespected/103640 "2019-05-13T21:11:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![giu\_gana](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@giu\_gana](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/giu_gana)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-bf1-so-desrespected/103640/21 "2019-05-17T19:23:00Z")
> [@von\_Campenstein](#): > > > [@giu\_gana](#): > > > > > [@MarxistDictator](#): > > > > > > I got my post eaten when I didn’t even edit it, thanks forum > > > > > > There were like less than 0.0001% ‘aggressive’ scouts to regular scouts at any point in this game and the ones that are good (and still are) use scopes. Iron sight rifles are my preference too but I don’t pretend like it needed to be broken to be fun. Launch Martini Henry was a guilty pleasure but not fun or balanced at all. Scouts don’t need mega shotguns to compete. > > > > > > And speaking of effective ranges, what was the effective range on the Lewis before new TTK? It had a TTK of like 480ms in its max damage range and then it dropped off to 700ms or so by 35m. So in the span of a distance which is smaller than any existing sweet spot the Lewis went from one of the weakest guns in the game to one of the worst guns ever in any video game. Was this fun for the support? Is there even a point to using an LMG that requires you to react and shoot first in any engagement to even stand a chance of winning it? > > > > > > Since we’re going with ‘what I saw in game’ over quantified facts I’ll point out that the myriad of gameplay changes that accompanied new TTK have made offense win more. > > > > > > Before a wall of grenades, scouts and gas made attack lose basically every operation, now I witness them win more than I ever had which would be impossible if the gameplay changes only benefitted defensive play. Its almost even sometimes, I only see regular defense wins on the stacked scenarios like Devil’s Anvil. > > > > > > I’ve also never noticed any more or any less ammo/health/revives than usual, players with enough game sense to notice teammates have always been the minority. This is why Hardline had the best system by a mile, regardless of ‘muh teamwork’ (because throwing a box at someone is much more ‘teamwork’ than pulling a health kit/ammo pack off them). > > > > > > Also you uninstalling forever ago and still whining about a game you don’t play that won’t change is kinda weird. I don’t play BF V but I don’t dedicate any energy to constantly reminding people that it isn’t good. I just look to each update thinking maybe there was something worthwhile in it and get let down. I don’t feel compelled to document this to the people who do keep playing. > > > > Totally agree (even if i didnt play the game before ttk 2.0) but this trend of saying that now everyone is camping is stupid. Like of course in fort devoe you are gonna find some bipod guys at the end of corridors but that has been a thing since bf3 > > This trend of wholeheartedly agreeing with someone when you have no own reference of the game period that is talked about is the stupid part. I never got into Operations, too spammy but I did notice Amiens on Conquest for one turning into a very german map post TTK, possibly down to more experienced players opting to play german or the british routes being easier to lock down with the faster TTK? I’ve uninstalled this game 4 times now, last about a month ago, which in my world isn’t forever. I come here on occassion to see exactly how bad it will end up after being that good. I played once a week at a fiends house from when it came out until christmas. We were never trying super hard but it seemed like we were alwais getting killed by the same weapons. Now played the game for about 50 hours in 2019 and i feel like the meta has changed in a better way (you can disagree with me just say what you would change). I also followes the game updates by lvlcap and jackfrags videos if that counts. I dont think you neee 1000+ hours on a game to understand if its balanced or not. Also one last thing. Everybody was blaming bf1 for not being a “true WW1 game” because it didn t have trench combat and there were not so many auto weapons at the time ecc ecc… Dice listened to them and helped bipod gameplay so you wouldn have rambos runnig around al the time and by creating more WW1 like maps in the apocalipse dlc. Everyone was begging them to change the gunplay and they did but they were inevitably gonna make someone mad. So i think that the ttk 2.0 has brought us to a great ( but not perfect) spot. If you cluod say me everything you would change i could change my mind [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-bf1-so-desrespected/103640.md?page=1)