# Why is it that people can claim vehicles when you can't even see them spawn? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 15, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591 "2019-02-15T15:05:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/21 "2019-02-18T02:22:00Z")
> [@PrecisionWing](#): > > Noticed this since launch, more obvious for planes. > To me, it happens like this: > Everything works well at the start of round, once you got shot down, planes wont respawn(at least from your end), all your teammates can take the newly respawned planes, but not you. > More specifically, it happens like this: > At start, there are 2 planes, you take first one and teammate takes the other. If you got shot down, your “first” plane wont be available to you until the second plane is also lost. You are 100% right about it all working normally at a start of a round. However I’ve joined games half way in and it still happens then. And as you pointed out, after you die in say a tank, you watch others claim them and you can’t even see them spawn. ---
**Author:** ![WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/winterwarhurst/32/107315_2.png) [@WinterWarhurst](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/WinterWarhurst)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/22 "2019-02-18T03:06:00Z")
Complete BS, I was unconvincingly told by a dev it was a bug months ago, it would be great if they patched it. Sometimes on Panzerstorm A & G don’t even show as captured on the map so it’s impossible to spawn on vehicles there. Even in BF1 we could hover over unavailable tanks so we could customise them. The amount of times I’ve lost a tank while customising it then NEVER getting one for the rest of the game is pretry rage inducing, especially as a tanker. ---
**Author:** ![PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/precisionwing/32/103161_2.png) [@PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PrecisionWing)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/23 "2019-02-18T07:18:00Z")
Like this one: [![Video: Battlefield V Plane won't respawn & Flag Stats Error](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/2/a/2a3a80306a89008b19848b7d89ba04f5316fe202.jpeg "Battlefield V Plane won't respawn & Flag Stats Error") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrYkfRws4dE) ---
**Author:** ![UsainskiSemperFi](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/usainskisemperfi/32/103953_2.png) [@UsainskiSemperFi](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UsainskiSemperFi)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 7:29am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/24 "2019-02-18T07:29:00Z")
i’ve noticed this too. It happens more often on Planes spawn. ---
**Author:** ![ChewGoat](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/chewgoat/32/106553_2.png) [@ChewGoat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ChewGoat)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 8:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/25 "2019-02-18T08:01:00Z")
> [@MBT\_Layzan](#): > > > [@Marine\_IraHayes2](#): > > > > Has anyone ever gotten the flashing red screen at the top saying to the effect that unable to use the tank even though there is one available? > > At that’s with the closest home flag still under your control. > > Yes, loads. get that lots of times and not just when trying to spawn in a tank. i click plenty of places on the map that we have control on and end up spawning at our main base or 2nd main base which 1 in 50 times is waaaaaaaay out of bounds and end up dead. ---
**Author:** ![snavelaer](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/snavelaer/32/103541_2.png) [@snavelaer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/snavelaer)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 9:08am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/26 "2019-02-18T09:08:00Z")
They implemented these gamemechanics because cryhards cried that they couldn’t get a vehicle. Although that system is there to be ‘fair’ for others it feels unfair to others. Why? DICE don’t communicate about implementing these kind of protective measuers to ensure cryhards don’t quit the game. Although I totally disagree with these mechanics at least be open about your gamerules DICE! ---
**Author:** ![Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/netranger9/32/102119_2.png) [@Netranger9](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Netranger9)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/27 "2019-02-18T09:25:00Z")
My mate is a tanker only and he has a script setup that clicks the icon 100 times a sec so he can get his tank. ---
**Author:** ![snavelaer](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/snavelaer/32/103541_2.png) [@snavelaer](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/snavelaer)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 9:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/28 "2019-02-18T09:38:00Z")
My mate use to fight over an objective so he could get an T90 tank instead of an Abrahms tank. No que. Just fight. No scripts. No dumb cryhard protective measures. Just fun. ---
**Author:** ![SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sirbobdk/32/103491_2.png) [@SirBobdk](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/SirBobdk)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 12:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/29 "2019-02-18T12:04:00Z")
Bring back vehicle spawn on flags and runways. Make flags important to capture in order to gain more vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/30 "2019-02-18T12:08:00Z")
The other stupid thing is the slot system for equipped vehicles. You might want a light tank the next round but because you were (rushing to get a vehicle slot), you can press the wrong bloody equipped slot because the game before you might have been using something from tier 3 when you have your light tanks in tier 1 if you follow. All this because your having to panic rush the vehicle spawn as most maps have 1/2 spawn, and even when you get the slot, it can go red and you lose it.. Rage inducing or what. ---
**Author:** ![Kauzer\_RF](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kauzer_rf/32/102473_2.png) [@Kauzer\_RF](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kauzer_RF)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/31 "2019-02-18T12:11:00Z")
Very annoying bug and it was NOT fixed in the patch. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Talon](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/agent_talon/32/106441_2.png) [@Agent\_Talon](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Agent_Talon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/32 "2019-02-18T13:48:00Z")
So glad it’s not just me watching 3 tanks get taken by teammates when I never see them available for spawn. Add it to the list of stuff that makes me play more Apex than BF5. ---
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/33 "2019-02-18T14:52:00Z")
> [@Agent\_Talon](#): > > So glad it’s not just me watching 3 tanks get taken by teammates when I never see them available for spawn. Add it to the list of stuff that makes me play more Apex than BF5. So very true. The fact this has gone on since Bf1 speaks volumes for how this game has become more infantry focused. ---
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/34 "2019-02-18T15:03:00Z")
Back in most BF games, vehicles would spawn at a homebase or objective. 100% fair for all AND, you could before stepping into a vehicle check the ground for mines, man homebase defence, spot targets preying on the homebase area. In Bf5, I’ve spawned into tanks to be blown up by plane mines directly under the spawn point, spawned and seen enemy tanks start firing away at me becuase of the stupid map design. Been bombed by bombers doing their flybys. Had my tank stolen (esp now with depots needing to be repaired), stuck on terrain and I can’t even head back to homebase to get another tank. Your basically gimped as a engineer, you can’t even customise like other classes, you can’t even look at the tank specs etc until you get one in game wasting more time. I’ve had times the tank slot spawns and as I go to hit it, it’s moved to another flag and someone claims it, other times it goes red and stays that way? Man, I miss games like bf3, BC, 1943 etc. ---
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/35 "2019-02-18T18:49:00Z")
> [@GENERALONGDONG](#): > > The tank spawn thing is a joke, people just seem to be sitting on the deploy screen hammering left click to get the tank before it even shows as being available. I’ve been in the customization menu after clicking on an available tank and somehow still failed to get it. Just seems to me if someone hammers left click enough it gives them the tank regardless. Same issues in bf1 as well. And Dice who made this change say nothing… ---
**Author:** ![PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/precisionwing/32/103161_2.png) [@PrecisionWing](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/PrecisionWing)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/36 "2019-02-18T18:53:00Z")
> [@MBT\_Layzan](#): > > > [@GENERALONGDONG](#): > > > > The tank spawn thing is a joke, people just seem to be sitting on the deploy screen hammering left click to get the tank before it even shows as being available. I’ve been in the customization menu after clicking on an available tank and somehow still failed to get it. Just seems to me if someone hammers left click enough it gives them the tank regardless. Same issues in bf1 as well. > > And Dice who made this change say nothing… The UI designer for this change in bf1/5 should be fired. Period. Have they ever tried this feature before releasing it? It doesn’t make any sense. ---
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/37 "2019-02-18T19:39:00Z")
> [@PrecisionWing](#): > > > [@MBT\_Layzan](#): > > > > > [@GENERALONGDONG](#): > > > > > > The tank spawn thing is a joke, people just seem to be sitting on the deploy screen hammering left click to get the tank before it even shows as being available. I’ve been in the customization menu after clicking on an available tank and somehow still failed to get it. Just seems to me if someone hammers left click enough it gives them the tank regardless. Same issues in bf1 as well. > > > > And Dice who made this change say nothing… > > The UI designer for this change in bf1/5 should be fired. Period. Have they ever tried this feature before releasing it? It doesn’t make any sense. Defiantly. who thinks of this stuff? Twisted steel is like one road where all the tanks spawn, so what do planes do, litter the area with mines that we don’t even get pts for taking out, and can’t be spotted like infantry placed mines. All made easy because you can’t see anything as you have to spawn into a tank now. ---
**Author:** ![MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/mbt_layzan/32/102770_2.png) [@MBT\_Layzan](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/MBT_Layzan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/38 "2019-02-18T19:41:00Z")
It actually lags, you can claim a tank spawn, and then a second after, it goes red and gives it to someone else. It’s like dices personal joke… ---
**Author:** ![Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Astr0damus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/39 "2019-02-18T19:59:00Z")
> [@rainkloud](#): > > > [@Sprinkles298](#): > > > > > [@rainkloud](#): > > > > > > I think that it may be two things. The first seems like it was mentioned as being fixed in the new patch. That is the bug where your rag doll wouldn’t disappear when you died in a tank. Therefore the game doesn’t recognize you as being eligible to spawn in a tank again(or something like that - not sure exactly) > > > > > > The second is that someone might be afk in the vehicle customization screen. So the vehicle doesn’t show as available in the spawn screen but after you arrive on the spawn screen they finally deploy which makes it look like they just grabbed a vehicle you didn’t get an opportunity to take yourself but in reality it was already taken before you got to the deploy screen. > > > > You can’t access any vehicle customization in game. You have to be in a menu to access those. > > You can access the vehicle customization screen from the deploy screen by selecting the vehicle spawn symbol and then clicking on customize. Half the time I click on a tank, I forget there is an additional selection you have to make–and by that time, someone else has gotten it.. I think it should give the person that clicked on it at least 30-45 seconds to realize and make their vehicle type selection, or else default to which ever one has been ranked up the highest by that person (if no selection is made) but don’t let some other whipper-snapper get the tank you clicked on first. ---
**Author:** ![Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Astr0damus](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Astr0damus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591/40 "2019-02-18T20:01:00Z")
> [@MBT\_Layzan](#): > > How this bug or BS still exists in this game since their stupid change in how vehicles spawn is beyond me. There are literally dozens of annoyances (that don’t really affect game play though) which seem also very easy to fix…like when you spawn into a game with 40 tickets left (annoyance #1) then you hear “Our first enemy kill” (annoyance #2). Quality Control department must be at lunch (all day) [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591.md?page=1) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why-is-it-that-people-can-claim-vehicles-when-you-cant-even-see-them-spawn/106591.md?page=3)