# Why?

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 12, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169 "2016-05-12T00:25:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sir-Smithsonian](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-smithsonian/32/103486_2.png) [@Sir-Smithsonian](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-Smithsonian)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/1 "2016-05-12T00:25:00Z")

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Why is it that these forums are filled with people wanting to get rid of everything from previous BF titles? Saying certain things weren’t capable of being done in the ww1 era, but there is so much in every Bf game that we aren’t or will never be capable of doing.

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**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/2 "2016-05-12T00:26:00Z")

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Such as what for exemple ?

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**Author:** ![Sir-Smithsonian](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-smithsonian/32/103486_2.png) [@Sir-Smithsonian](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-Smithsonian)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/3 "2016-05-12T00:26:00Z")

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Spotting for example? Oh and grenade indicators

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**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/4 "2016-05-12T00:27:00Z")

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Vocal minority. Everyone has an opinion, even though they know (I hope) that most of the suggestions won’t get implemented as the people here by no means represent what most gamers want.

This is most recently seen by Battlefront, a lot of people said it is the worst game ever, but it sold 14 million copies. If we went by the forums, the game would have been a flop

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**Author:** ![m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/m1k3ol)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/5 "2016-05-12T00:28:00Z")

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'cause some think realism is cooler, but if that was true most would be enrolled on their local military instead of being weekend warriors on servers

What people should be concerned about is balance, a balanced well thought game is always better

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**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/6 "2016-05-12T00:31:00Z")

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> [@ThePoolshark](#):
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> Vocal minority. Everyone has an opinion, even though they know (I hope) that most of the suggestions won’t get implemented as the people here by no means represent what most gamers want.
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> This is most recently seen by Battlefront, a lot of people said it is the worst game ever, but it sold 14 million copies. If we went by the forums, the game would have been a flop

Game is almost dead on PC right now. Peak was at 6K people. That says a lot. But anyway Disney was all over battlefront and was made to be a casual game. An amazing looking pick up and play Star wars game ? it was gonna sell for sure. But it has no depth or longevity and it shows. BF4 has more players than this right now.

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**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/7 "2016-05-12T00:32:00Z")

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> [@Wolfyp77](#):
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> Spotting for example? Oh and grenade indicators

Well spotting as it is is a little bit of an issue. People just want to see things improved. Mechanics improved. Spotting isn’t bad but it could use improvement it’s a little too strong. BF1 is said to have re worked and re thought a lot of things we have been used to.

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**Author:** ![xCRIMSONxGUARDx](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xcrimsonxguardx/32/101054_2.png) [@xCRIMSONxGUARDx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xCRIMSONxGUARDx)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/8 "2016-05-12T00:32:00Z")

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[http://bf4stats.com/](http://bf4stats.com/) i disagree. is far from dead on any platform. ops never mind wrong thing, you were talking about starwars. my bad.

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**Author:** ![Sir-Smithsonian](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-smithsonian/32/103486_2.png) [@Sir-Smithsonian](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-Smithsonian)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/9 "2016-05-12T00:32:00Z")

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I did buy battlefront and played it for a total of 10 hours maybe, and I haven’t touched it since

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**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/10 "2016-05-12T00:34:00Z")

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> [@zePokar1](#):
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> > [@ThePoolshark](#):
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> > Vocal minority. Everyone has an opinion, even though they know (I hope) that most of the suggestions won’t get implemented as the people here by no means represent what most gamers want.
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> > This is most recently seen by Battlefront, a lot of people said it is the worst game ever, but it sold 14 million copies. If we went by the forums, the game would have been a flop
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> Game is almost dead on PC right now. Peak was at 5K people. That says a lot. But anyway Disney was all over battlefront and was made to be a casual game. An amazing looking pick up and play Star wars game ? it was gonna sell for sure. But it has no depth or longevity and it shows. BF4 has more players than this right now.

Those stats sites aren’t completely accurate, however, it still sold after all the reviews saying it lacked content. Most of the players are playing non MP games still. It is still the vocal minority… regardless of what MP numbers say.

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**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/11 "2016-05-12T00:35:00Z")

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> [@xCRIMSONxGUARDx](#):
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> [http://bf4stats.com/](http://bf4stats.com/) i disagree. is far from dead on any platform.

You missread my post then.

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**Author:** ![Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-xer21/32/103487_2.png) [@Sir-xer21](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-xer21)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/12 "2016-05-12T00:36:00Z")

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> [@zePokar1](#):
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> > [@ThePoolshark](#):
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> > Vocal minority. Everyone has an opinion, even though they know (I hope) that most of the suggestions won’t get implemented as the people here by no means represent what most gamers want.
> > 
> > This is most recently seen by Battlefront, a lot of people said it is the worst game ever, but it sold 14 million copies. If we went by the forums, the game would have been a flop
> 
> Game is almost dead on PC right now. Peak was at 6K people. That says a lot. But anyway Disney was all over battlefront and was made to be a casual game. An amazing looking pick up and play Star wars game ? it was gonna sell for sure. But it has no depth or longevity and it shows. BF4 has more players than this right now.

that probably has more to do with the lack of maps than anything.

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**Author:** ![xCRIMSONxGUARDx](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xcrimsonxguardx/32/101054_2.png) [@xCRIMSONxGUARDx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xCRIMSONxGUARDx)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/13 "2016-05-12T00:37:00Z")

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> [@zePokar1](#):
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> > [@xCRIMSONxGUARDx](#):
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> > [http://bf4stats.com/](http://bf4stats.com/) i disagree. is far from dead on any platform.
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> You missread my post then.

yes i did i fixed.

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**Author:** ![cdblaze](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/cdblaze/32/101479_2.png) [@cdblaze](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/cdblaze)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/14 "2016-05-12T00:37:00Z")

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> [@m1k3ol](#):
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> 'cause some think realism is cooler, but if that was true most would be enrolled on their local military instead of being weekend warriors on servers
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> What people should be concerned about is balance, a balanced well thought game is always better

There are a numerous amount of “realistic” World War shooters that deal with this. Red Orchestra is a perfect example of realistic shooter based in a World War setting.

I want Battlefield in WW1. That’s all. Get rid of stuff in last battlefields that didn’t work out, add some new stuff, but otherwise, stick with your guns with innovations.

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**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/15 "2016-05-12T00:37:00Z")

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> [@Sir-xer21](#):
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> > [@zePokar1](#):
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> > > [@ThePoolshark](#):
> > >
> > > Vocal minority. Everyone has an opinion, even though they know (I hope) that most of the suggestions won’t get implemented as the people here by no means represent what most gamers want.
> > > 
> > > This is most recently seen by Battlefront, a lot of people said it is the worst game ever, but it sold 14 million copies. If we went by the forums, the game would have been a flop
> > 
> > Game is almost dead on PC right now. Peak was at 6K people. That says a lot. But anyway Disney was all over battlefront and was made to be a casual game. An amazing looking pick up and play Star wars game ? it was gonna sell for sure. But it has no depth or longevity and it shows. BF4 has more players than this right now.
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> that probably has more to do with the lack of maps than anything.

Content and gameplay depth. It’s just very casual.

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**Author:** ![m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@m1k3ol](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/m1k3ol)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/16 "2016-05-12T00:37:00Z")

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> [@zePokar1](#):
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> Game is almost dead on PC right now. Peak was at 6K people. That says a lot. But anyway Disney was all over battlefront and was made to be a casual game. An amazing looking pick up and play Star wars game ? it was gonna sell for sure. But it has no depth or longevity and it shows. BF4 has more players than this right now.

I doubt PC is a standard to judge all games

Battlefront PS4 had 25 freaking-K peak today, on the middle of the freaking week, it’s not even a weekend or vacations for school players…

That would be on the list of most played even in STEAM for a non-f2p game

(Xbox One had 17.6k)

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**Author:** ![Sir-Smithsonian](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sir-smithsonian/32/103486_2.png) [@Sir-Smithsonian](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sir-Smithsonian)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/17 "2016-05-12T00:38:00Z")

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> [@zePokar1](#):
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> > [@Wolfyp77](#):
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> > Spotting for example? Oh and grenade indicators
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> Well spotting as it is is a little bit of an issue. People just want to see things improved. Mechanics improved. Spotting isn’t bad but it could use improvement it’s a little too strong. BF1 is said to have re worked and re thought a lot of things we have been used to.

Yes it definitely could use some work but not taken completely out. I guess it doesn’t matter anyways I’ll still play the hell out of it

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**Author:** ![zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/35a633/32.png) [@zePokar1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/zePokar1)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/18 "2016-05-12T00:39:00Z")

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> [@m1k3ol](#):
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> > [@zePokar1](#):
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> > Game is almost dead on PC right now. Peak was at 6K people. That says a lot. But anyway Disney was all over battlefront and was made to be a casual game. An amazing looking pick up and play Star wars game ? it was gonna sell for sure. But it has no depth or longevity and it shows. BF4 has more players than this right now.
> 
> I doubt PC is a standard to judge all games
> 
> Battlefront PS4 had 25 freaking-K peak today, on the middle of the freaking week, it’s not even a weekend or vacations for school players…
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> That would be on the list of most played even in STEAM for a non-f2p game
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> (Xbox One had 17.6k)

CS GO probably had 500K people online today.

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**Author:** ![bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bf1helicopter](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/bf1helicopter)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/19 "2016-05-12T00:40:00Z")

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> [@Wolfyp77](#):
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> Why is it that these forums are filled with people wanting to get rid of everything from previous BF titles? Saying certain things weren’t capable of being done in the ww1 era, but there is so much in every Bf game that we aren’t or will never be capable of doing.

Exactly. I would like to see a pedal helicopter in BF1, but this is the reply I keep getting from most people. Not a cobra or little bird, but a prototype pedal helicopter. What do you think about this? Would you like this or dislike it?

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**Author:** ![xCRIMSONxGUARDx](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/xcrimsonxguardx/32/101054_2.png) [@xCRIMSONxGUARDx](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/xCRIMSONxGUARDx)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/why/101169/20 "2016-05-12T00:47:00Z")

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> [@zePokar1](#):
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> > [@m1k3ol](#):
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> > > [@zePokar1](#):
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> > > Game is almost dead on PC right now. Peak was at 6K people. That says a lot. But anyway Disney was all over battlefront and was made to be a casual game. An amazing looking pick up and play Star wars game ? it was gonna sell for sure. But it has no depth or longevity and it shows. BF4 has more players than this right now.
> > 
> > I doubt PC is a standard to judge all games
> > 
> > Battlefront PS4 had 25 freaking-K peak today, on the middle of the freaking week, it’s not even a weekend or vacations for school players…
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> > That would be on the list of most played even in STEAM for a non-f2p game
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> > (Xbox One had 17.6k)
> 
> CS GO probably had 500K people online today.

it also counts you online playing bots, on steam anyway, not to mention it has alot of competitive leagues where as battlefield doesn’t believe in them.

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