# Women Soldiers? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 24, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510 "2016-05-24T20:24:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eb9ed0/32.png) [@CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CAPT_Gangplank)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/41 "2016-05-24T22:53:00Z")
If you mean movie characters, Leia was the classic one, but the new one has Rey, Captain Phasma. The Lore has plenty, like Mara Jade, half of Luke’s students… IN the other video games like KOTOR, Bastila was extremely popular… There are innumerable characters in Old Republic too. I don’t have Battlefront either, but I’m pretty sure it was a design criteria to have them included. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/42 "2016-05-24T22:59:00Z")
> [@thejamman123](#): > > > [@JuveOG1105](#): > > > > > [@thejamman123](#): > > > > > > > [@JuveOG1105](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Napoleonicus](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@JuveOG1105](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not? They where both minorities when it came to combat. If you guys want women soliders why can’t I have kid soliders? > > > > > > > > > > Fallacious argument. Not including children in war games is a morals issue. Same cannot be said of adult women. Also equating adult women to children is ridiculous. > > > > > > > > Why though I find it immoral to kill women in a war game. Why is it ridiculous? Children have fought in plenty of wars. > > > > > > How do you feel about killing women in games such as GTA? > > > > I don’t play gta I play mainly racing, soccer, football and some fps. > > That does not answer my question, I don’t see you up in arms about being able to kill women in other games Misread the question my b. Idc honestly lol I’m just trying to do what you guys do. The main reason I don’t want women is its weird in my opinion. Like I already told Napoleonicus to me it’d be like playing a WW2 game and women fighting/ landing on Normandy. It doesn’t feel right. If it was modern or futuristic go ahead idc. It’s ww1 though and they where an extremely small minority in combat terms. ---
**Author:** ![Indys2nd](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/b38774/32.png) [@Indys2nd](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Indys2nd)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/43 "2016-05-25T00:17:00Z")
Doesn’t feel right, like in not realistic? I think in real life, when someone shoots you, you’re just dead. There is no respawning. Game over. So if bf was to mimic real life, you’d be out as soon as you were shot with no respawn for the whole match. Most games I play have both male and female characters, including GTA 5. “If you’re red your dead” is my crew’s motto, woman or not. It’s about time Battlefield got with the times and finally offered women the opportunity to play as a female. It does for Black people after all. And that wasn’t always the case, as African American soldiers were not fully integrated until much later in American history, but no one thinks twice about that in Battlefield now. EA finally has the chance to get with the times instead of being stuck in the past. And as I said, if you want realistic, when you die, it should feel quite fake to respawn. It may come as a shock but women do play these types of games. You could always choose to play as a male but let others make the decision for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Vespervin1](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vespervin1](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Vespervin1)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/44 "2016-05-25T00:25:00Z")
They should rename the ‘medic’ to ‘nurse’ and make them the female character in multiplayer. Actually… ---
**Author:** ![UnderbossNiko](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/cab0a1/32.png) [@UnderbossNiko](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UnderbossNiko)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/45 "2016-05-25T00:39:00Z")
Star Wars Battlefront has more freedom to incorporate female models and characters based on the setting. Not just the cinematic universe, but the EU and plenty of material had female pilots/combatants and the like. The difference here is It is a fictitious universe. Added with the underline of the whole plot being about a Rebellion. Of course a rebellion wouldn’t discriminate between which sex could or could not fight. look at Frances Resistance fighting during WWII surely there were plenty of female combatants who took up arms to fight the oppression. However, this is a game based on History. Granted it will of course likely take many liberties on some facts to better improve gameplay (experimental weapons, concepts and the like) but hopefully it will also give this tragic war it’s just due. Female soldiers were just not a thing. It was unheard of. This is a time of the turn of the century. Political ideas where still very much the same to the century prior. And while there were movements to better the rights of women. It barely had begun and surely would not have reached the levels of the military. War was a gentlemen’s affair, viewed as a means of pride and national honor. The men when to fight and die for their country and to keep it and their families safe. There should not be a need for telling DICE to “Get with the program” I’m sure they are plenty aware of current issues and their player base. But they should also Respect the material they are studying. There is no need for female soldiers to be here. As they were not a thing at the time. Again, the biggest examples being the Russian’s who held different idea’s on how to handle things and were of course doing so out of desperation on occasion. If this were a battlefield set in a modern warzone or futuristic? Then yes, female soldiers would make sense and there’s no problem with having them. But in this war, it wasn’t at all as common and that should be respected. ---
**Author:** ![JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/eada6e/32.png) [@JuveOG1105](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/JuveOG1105)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/46 "2016-05-25T00:48:00Z")
> [@Indys2nd](#): > > Doesn’t feel right, like in not realistic? I think in real life, when someone shoots you, you’re just dead. There is no respawning. Game over. So if bf was to mimic real life, you’d be out as soon as you were shot with no respawn for the whole match. > > Most games I play have both male and female characters, including GTA 5. “If you’re red your dead” is my crew’s motto, woman or not. It’s about time Battlefield got with the times and finally offered women the opportunity to play as a female. It does for Black people after all. And that wasn’t always the case, as African American soldiers were not fully integrated until much later in American history, but no one thinks twice about that in Battlefield now. EA finally has the chance to get with the times instead of being stuck in the past. And as I said, if you want realistic, when you die, it should feel quite fake to respawn. > > It may come as a shock but women do play these types of games. You could always choose to play as a male but let others make the decision for themselves. Di you just read doesn’t feel right and skip the rest? It has nothing to do with realism Ik war is nothing like any of the battlefields. I’m saying it wouldn’t feel right like I already said women didn’t participate in most battles why include them just to be PC? ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:18am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/47 "2016-05-25T01:18:00Z")
I love this thread. It pops up a few months before every Battlefield game has ever released, and the arguments never change. The devs never add females in, and on launch, nobody really cares one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/keith4436)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/48 "2016-05-25T01:46:00Z")
> [@ThePoolshark](#): > > I love this thread. It pops up a few months before every Battlefield game has ever released, and the arguments never change. The devs never add females in, and on launch, nobody really cares one way or another. I think the best idea has been to change the medic to nurse. That would work for sure. ---
**Author:** ![CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eb9ed0/32.png) [@CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CAPT_Gangplank)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/49 "2016-05-25T02:02:00Z")
> [@keith4436](#): > > I think the best idea has been to change the medic to nurse. That would work for sure. Nurses. With guns. Don’t give me ideas like that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/thepoolshark/32/103801_2.png) [@ThePoolshark](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThePoolshark)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/50 "2016-05-25T02:03:00Z")
> [@keith4436](#): > > > [@ThePoolshark](#): > > > > I love this thread. It pops up a few months before every Battlefield game has ever released, and the arguments never change. The devs never add females in, and on launch, nobody really cares one way or another. > > I think the best idea has been to change the medic to nurse. That would work for sure. Hey, not sure if you are aware, but nurses can be guys, too ---
**Author:** ![Bohunk\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/bohunk_l/32/101385_2.png) [@Bohunk\_l](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Bohunk_l)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/51 "2016-05-25T03:34:00Z")
Well I’m pretty sure the person riding the horse in the trailer was a woman That or a very feminine man.. ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/52 "2016-05-25T04:04:00Z")
> [@UnderbossNiko](#): > > Nonetheless these are few documented situations. Sure, 11,000 woman enlisted in the navy. Doesn’t mean there should be female ground soldiers in the trenches. And the biggest example you can give for a side that did do it seems to be Russia. Which we all know, do so out of desperation. Both in this War, and the next world war. > > To me, it simply doesn’t seem wide spread enough to allow players to switch between the sexes for a match. Fitting with the time, it was mostly young men who would go to die for their country and later (excluding the Russian’s) send old men and boy’s who were barely teens to take their place, and also die. Yes, but most of those women severed in so called “soft” jobs like drivers, communication, nurses. Russia had 2000 women enlist into the army of which on 250 saw the front lines. A more boys fought in WW1 then women even with the oversea services age was 19. There are many as young as 12 years old served with Navies around the world. It is estimated 250,000 boys severed with British(UK) army. Even the first British Killed. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Parr\_(British\_Army\_soldier)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Parr_(British_Army_soldier)) ---
**Author:** ![iidarksim](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/a4c791/32.png) [@iidarksim](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/iidarksim)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 6:17am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/53 "2016-05-25T06:17:00Z")
> [@thejamman123](#): > > Aviator Eugenie Mikhailovna Shakhovskaya; (1889–1920) was the first woman to become a military pilot when she flew reconnaissance missions for the Czar in 1914. > On March 17th 1917 Loretta Perfectus Walsh (1896 – 1925) became the first American active-duty Navy woman, and the first woman allowed to serve in any of the United States armed forces other than as a nurse, when she enlisted in the US Naval Reserve. She subsequently became the first woman Navy petty officer when she was sworn in as Chief Yeoman. By the end of the War America had sworn in 11,274 female Yeomen to the Navy on the same status as men. > > For those of you too lazy to click a link and read I’m in the Navy. The Yeoman is a rate in the navy responsible for administration. They are paper pushers in every since of the word, not trigger pullers. Women probably shouldn’t be in the game, and I loved the diversity in Star Wars Battlefront and other games. ---
**Author:** ![keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@keith4436](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/keith4436)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/54 "2016-05-25T06:30:00Z")
> [@iidarksim](#): > > > [@thejamman123](#): > > > > Aviator Eugenie Mikhailovna Shakhovskaya; (1889–1920) was the first woman to become a military pilot when she flew reconnaissance missions for the Czar in 1914. > > On March 17th 1917 Loretta Perfectus Walsh (1896 – 1925) became the first American active-duty Navy woman, and the first woman allowed to serve in any of the United States armed forces other than as a nurse, when she enlisted in the US Naval Reserve. She subsequently became the first woman Navy petty officer when she was sworn in as Chief Yeoman. By the end of the War America had sworn in 11,274 female Yeomen to the Navy on the same status as men. > > > > For those of you too lazy to click a link and read > > I’m in the Navy. The Yeoman is a rate in the navy responsible for administration. They are paper pushers in every since of the word, not trigger pullers. Women probably shouldn’t be in the game, and I loved the diversity in Star Wars Battlefront and other games. Thank you for your service to the country. I served on the USS Kitty Hawk, Vietnam, 1972. ---
**Author:** ![visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/visegrip117/32/104005_2.png) [@visegrip117](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/visegrip117)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:07am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/55 "2016-05-25T09:07:00Z")
> [@thejamman123](#): > > Aviator Eugenie… > For those of you too lazy to click a link and read They’re probably not going to read that wall either. Got the TL;DR version? ---
**Author:** ![aaronvaner350](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/aaronvaner350/32/106219_2.png) [@aaronvaner350](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/aaronvaner350)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:35am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/56 "2016-05-25T09:35:00Z")
> [@thejamman123](#): > > Aviator Eugenie Mikhailovna Shakhovskaya; (1889–1920) was the first woman to become a military pilot when she flew reconnaissance missions for the Czar in 1914. > On March 17th 1917 Loretta Perfectus Walsh (1896 – 1925) became the first American active-duty Navy woman, and the first woman allowed to serve in any of the United States armed forces other than as a nurse, when she enlisted in the US Naval Reserve. She subsequently became the first woman Navy petty officer when she was sworn in as Chief Yeoman. By the end of the War America had sworn in 11,274 female Yeomen to the Navy on the same status as men. > In 1917, in a last-ditch effort to inspire the mass of war-weary soldiers to continue fighting in World War, the Russian Provisional Government created fifteen formations of women-only ballalions. This included the 1st Russian Women’s Battalion of Death, commanded by Maria Bochkareva which were called into battle against the Germans during the Kerensky Offensive. The women performed well in combat, taking 200 prisoners and suffered few casualties. > Flora Sandes (1876–1955) enlisted as a St John Ambulance volunteer and was stationed in Serbia to assist the humanitarian crisis where she joined the Serbian Red Cross in Kragujevac. Separated from her unit during the retreat into Albania, she joined a Serbian regiment for safety. Here she took up the rifle and became the first woman to be commissioned as an officer in the Serbian army and the only British woman to officially enlist as a soldier in World War I. In 1916 she was promoted to corporal then sergeant, and was wounded by an enemy grenade during hand-to-hand combat during the Serbian advance on Bitola (Monastir). Awarded the King George Star (Serbia’s highest decoration), she was then promoted sergeant-major, and eventually reached the station of captain. > > For those of you too lazy to click a link and read Those are the very first, that means there were only a few women in the war during WW1 as soldier. If the game allows you to be a woman, like 50% of the game will be using it, just like in Battlefront, and in WW1 there were not that much women in the war, so it would be fake, and that’s not what Battlefield should be. ---
**Author:** ![lexman61](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lexman61/32/102635_2.png) [@lexman61](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lexman61)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:57am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/57 "2016-05-25T09:57:00Z")
In videogames anything is of course possible, but dashing over the trenches for a bayonet charge and stabbing a female soldier on the opposite side would feel just a little bit too fictional. ---
**Author:** ![UnderbossNiko](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/cab0a1/32.png) [@UnderbossNiko](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/UnderbossNiko)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 10:24am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/58 "2016-05-25T10:24:00Z")
> [@DingoKillr](#): > > Yes, but most of those women severed in so called “soft” jobs like drivers, communication, nurses. > Russia had 2000 women enlist into the army of which on 250 saw the front lines. > > A more boys fought in WW1 then women even with the oversea services age was 19. There are many as young as 12 years old served with Navies around the world. It is estimated 250,000 boys severed with British(UK) army. > > Even the first British Killed. > [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Parr\_(British\_Army\_soldier)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Parr_(British_Army_soldier)) And we’re not talking about “soft” jobs. The thread here is asking that there be female soldiers which was highly uncommon. Catering to the notion that “Battlefield needs to get with the times” and allow male/female soldiers to play as is great! Just not for this setting or period. ---
**Author:** ![Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/jihad_jockey/32/102395_2.png) [@Jihad\_Jockey](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Jihad_Jockey)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 10:38am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/59 "2016-05-25T10:38:00Z")
It wouldnt suit the period ---
**Author:** ![DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dingokillr/32/101728_2.png) [@DingoKillr](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/DingoKillr)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 10:40am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510/60 "2016-05-25T10:40:00Z")
> [@UnderbossNiko](#): > > > [@DingoKillr](#): > > > > Yes, but most of those women severed in so called “soft” jobs like drivers, communication, nurses. > > Russia had 2000 women enlist into the army of which on 250 saw the front lines. > > > > A more boys fought in WW1 then women even with the oversea services age was 19. There are many as young as 12 years old served with Navies around the world. It is estimated 250,000 boys severed with British(UK) army. > > > > Even the first British Killed. > > [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Parr\_(British\_Army\_soldier)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Parr_(British_Army_soldier)) > > And we’re not talking about “soft” jobs. The thread here is asking that there be female soldiers which was highly uncommon. Catering to the notion that “Battlefield needs to get with the times” and allow male/female soldiers to play as is great! Just not for this setting or period. Really because that not at all how OP justified. Using science fiction, then quote article to highlight the role a few women played in WW1. Based on the logic of OP we should have child soldiers too. [Previous page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510.md?page=2) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/women-soldiers/101510.md?page=4)