# You're asking for realism? seriously? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 21, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365 "2016-06-21T16:44:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kriegshammers/32/102575_2.png) [@Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kriegshammers)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/1 "2016-06-21T16:44:00Z")
This is what will kill BF1 if the complainer about this subject get their way. This whole realism links everything to what the complainers want. Everything from wanting female classes, less automatic weps, long winded grinding systems to unlock weapons and the list goes on. Recently i came across LevelCaps video and i think i just received cancer from a tweeter post which he linked on the video. ![Fail.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/5/e5b2394b09002ad4f55f9aa623d927e4d27b9dbf.jpeg) This game is about entertainment, its all entertainment but when did Dice do everything historically accurate? when did dice become a history channel? I know this is WWI so it has to be accurate! right? but if you’ve played any WWI games. They are boring, slow paced and its all trenches. Miles upon miles upon trenches. So in the words of Spock, “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” Ill let figure out who is the few. ---
**Author:** ![doonwallaby](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/doonwallaby/32/101766_2.png) [@doonwallaby](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/doonwallaby)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/2 "2016-06-21T17:28:00Z")
> [@Kriegshammers](#): > > So in the words of Spock, “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” Ill let figure out who is the few. Only on an a priori selection of utilitarian principles. The selection of such principles are highly debatable in metaethics—on logical grounds. Point is, he’s not wrong and neither are you. You’re caught in a dispute as to what a game is and neither of you are taking the same language. Besides, neither “realism” or “authenticity” is applicable to a simulation of a process that never took place. It’s simulacra all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![setzaroth](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/setzaroth/32/103420_2.png) [@setzaroth](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/setzaroth)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/3 "2016-06-21T17:42:00Z")
The guy who tweeted that is a historian. So… not sure what gave you “cancer.” ---
**Author:** ![CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eb9ed0/32.png) [@CAPT\_Gangplank](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/CAPT_Gangplank)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/4 "2016-06-21T17:46:00Z")
It would be neat to have a plethora of server side options tho. That way people and clans who rent servers could create games according to what they want to play. ---
**Author:** ![ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@ThoriumPower](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/ThoriumPower)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/5 "2016-06-21T18:55:00Z")
Yeah alot of the same excrement came up about realism against hardline. ---
**Author:** ![Nyburgare](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@Nyburgare](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Nyburgare)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/6 "2016-06-21T19:06:00Z")
I dont ask for realism so I get offended by this headline. ---
**Author:** ![GIickman](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/giickman/32/102069_2.png) [@GIickman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GIickman)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/7 "2016-06-21T19:12:00Z")
Imagine wanting realism in an arcade shooter ---
**Author:** ![OoptaGoopta](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ooptagoopta/32/103030_2.png) [@OoptaGoopta](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/OoptaGoopta)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/8 "2016-06-21T19:18:00Z")
> [@GIickman](#): > > Imagine wanting realism in an arcade shooter Hey buddy :^) ---
**Author:** ![Tyler\_K\_135](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/tyler_k_135/32/103922_2.png) [@Tyler\_K\_135](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Tyler_K_135)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/9 "2016-06-21T19:20:00Z")
Picking up this game on day one as long as it’s not as bad as BF4’s launch was. However I personally feel like this game is doing a job of being a WW1 game. There’s way to many weapons and vehicles that weren’t around at the time being added in for whatever reason. It looks like a great battlefield game, but if they were going this route anyway why not just go all out and make it an alternate history of ww1? I’m glad that verdun is coming out on consoles soon to provide a (slightly) more accurate WW1 experience ---
**Author:** ![GIickman](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/giickman/32/102069_2.png) [@GIickman](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/GIickman)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/10 "2016-06-21T19:20:00Z")
> [@OoptaGoopta](#): > > > [@GIickman](#): > > > > Imagine wanting realism in an arcade shooter > > Hey buddy :^) hi friend! I love love love that profile pic you have xD I love nic cage! what a guy! ---
**Author:** ![Rogue-Mike](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/rogue-mike/32/103294_2.png) [@Rogue-Mike](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Rogue-Mike)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/11 "2016-06-21T19:56:00Z")
Swear man, these random getting all butt hurt because a video game which is a break from reality and will no way ever be 100% like real world WW1spoil the greatness of the game. This is the same Battlefield franchise that allows you to launch a vehicle with explosives, use a expensive aircraft as a taxi and do a bunch of other that would not fly IRL. Only thing I prefer DICE devs not doing, is catering to the Assault scrub who runs first into all kinds of fire thinking a AR will win the day. Edit: Yo this new censor thing is new to me and already annoys me. ---
**Author:** ![Stil3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Stil3r](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Stil3r)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/12 "2016-06-21T20:02:00Z")
> [@Kriegshammers](#): > > This is what will kill BF1 if the complainer about this subject get their way. This whole realism links everything to what the complainers want. Everything from wanting female classes, less automatic weps, long winded grinding systems to unlock weapons and the list goes on. Recently i came across LevelCaps video and i think i just received cancer from a tweeter post which he linked on the video. > > ![Fail.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/5/e5b2394b09002ad4f55f9aa623d927e4d27b9dbf.jpeg) > > This game is about entertainment, its all entertainment but when did Dice do everything historically accurate? when did dice become a history channel? I know this is WWI so it has to be accurate! right? but if you’ve played any WWI games. They are boring, slow paced and its all trenches. Miles upon miles upon trenches. So in the words of Spock, “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” Ill let figure out who is the few. Need to learn more about ww1 then. The eastern front wasn’t trench warfare, it never went that way and the lines were constantly shifting and moving, it saw some huge battles throughout the war. Most wwI games (LIke Verdun) ar efocusesd on one battle or specific area, and most tend to be on the western front. Meanwhile they ignore completely the eastern front, the naval warfare, Africa, etc. A lot of us understand battlefield isn’t “realistic” but a lot of things people are asking for aren’t for super realistic things rather more authentic feeling things, that make the game feel or play like its set in ww1 rather then having things that they added to the series in the later games, like the 3d spotting over enemies heads or the lack of France/Russia at release for mp , etc. ---
**Author:** ![BoPe-ThE-BeSt-69](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/da6949/32.png) [@BoPe-ThE-BeSt-69](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/BoPe-ThE-BeSt-69)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/13 "2016-06-21T20:05:00Z")
BF1 gone be the best game EVER!!! ---
**Author:** ![Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/ameeba37/32/101194_2.png) [@Ameeba37](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Ameeba37)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/14 "2016-06-21T22:07:00Z")
Umm… OP, the guy who tweeted that is a military historian. He’s not complaining about the game nor is he asking for realism. ---
**Author:** ![Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kriegshammers/32/102575_2.png) [@Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kriegshammers)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/15 "2016-06-22T00:01:00Z")
Hopefully they release a statement explaining this WWI is set in a different universe/timeline. I have another question. Is this game a filler seat like BFH/STBF till the proper BF releases or is this it? ---
**Author:** ![Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kriegshammers/32/102575_2.png) [@Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kriegshammers)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/16 "2016-06-22T00:05:00Z")
> [@Stil3r](#): > > > [@Kriegshammers](#): > > > > This is what will kill BF1 if the complainer about this subject get their way. This whole realism links everything to what the complainers want. Everything from wanting female classes, less automatic weps, long winded grinding systems to unlock weapons and the list goes on. Recently i came across LevelCaps video and i think i just received cancer from a tweeter post which he linked on the video. > > > > ![Fail.jpg](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/e/5/e5b2394b09002ad4f55f9aa623d927e4d27b9dbf.jpeg) > > > > This game is about entertainment, its all entertainment but when did Dice do everything historically accurate? when did dice become a history channel? I know this is WWI so it has to be accurate! right? but if you’ve played any WWI games. They are boring, slow paced and its all trenches. Miles upon miles upon trenches. So in the words of Spock, “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” Ill let figure out who is the few. > > Need to learn more about ww1 then. The eastern front wasn’t trench warfare, it never went that way and the lines were constantly shifting and moving, it saw some huge battles throughout the war. > > Most wwI games (LIke Verdun) ar efocusesd on one battle or specific area, and most tend to be on the western front. > > Meanwhile they ignore completely the eastern front, the naval warfare, Africa, etc. > > A lot of us understand battlefield isn’t “realistic” but a lot of things people are asking for aren’t for super realistic things rather more authentic feeling things, that make the game feel or play like its set in ww1 rather then having things that they added to the series in the later games, like the 3d spotting over enemies heads or the lack of France/Russia at release for mp , etc. What would you like? or the small number of you like to change? Maybe FR/RS maps are going to be DLC? Is everyone just going off Verdun now? ---
**Author:** ![Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kriegshammers/32/102575_2.png) [@Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kriegshammers)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/17 "2016-06-22T00:11:00Z")
> [@Tyler\_K\_135](#): > > Picking up this game on day one as long as it’s not as bad as BF4’s launch was. However I personally feel like this game is doing a job of being a WW1 game. There’s way to many weapons and vehicles that weren’t around at the time being added in for whatever reason. It looks like a great battlefield game, but if they were going this route anyway why not just go all out and make it an alternate history of ww1? > > I’m glad that verdun is coming out on consoles soon to provide a (slightly) more accurate WW1 experience Have you not played Verdun on pc? its fun for about 10mins - 1hour. Its nothing but trench warfare and that’s it. You run around in a linear map shooting ppl, then running through no mans land. Ok i get the feeling everyone is going off Verdun now. I am worried. ---
**Author:** ![dartwe](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/dartwe/32/101648_2.png) [@dartwe](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/dartwe)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/18 "2016-06-22T00:12:00Z")
> [@Ameeba37](#): > > Umm… OP, the guy who tweeted that is a military historian. He’s not complaining about the game nor is he asking for realism. sounds like he’s complaining to me ---
**Author:** ![Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/kriegshammers/32/102575_2.png) [@Kriegshammers](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Kriegshammers)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/19 "2016-06-22T00:13:00Z")
> [@Rogue-Mike](#): > > Swear man, these randoms getting all butt hurt because a video game which is a break from reality and will no way ever be 100% like real world WW1spoil the greatness of the game. This is the same Battlefield franchise that allows you to launch a vehicle with explosives, use a expensive aircraft as a taxi and do a bunch of other stuff that would not fly IRL. > > Only thing I prefer DICE devs not doing, is catering to the Assault scrub who runs first into all kinds of fire thinking a AR will win the day. > > Edit: Yo this new censor thing is new to me and already annoys me. This is what ppl should be wary about. Giving the power to one class due to what AR it gets. Complain about this or ask question about how they have balanced each class/weps. BF4 was and still is all assault class. Its funny when everyone runs to you for ammo, most ppl die in the process, have a go at me in chat for not moving closer. ---
**Author:** ![lukelapula](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/lukelapula/32/102690_2.png) [@lukelapula](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/lukelapula)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365/20 "2016-06-22T00:15:00Z")
Levelcap literally just released a video talking about this and it’s worth a watch for people who are more interested in realism than balanced and fun gameplay [![Video: Battlefield 1 Unrealistic? Game Realism vs Game Fun](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/9/a/9a77eea6fd5de0c0548c24e365f93b8f596830a0.jpeg "Battlefield 1 Unrealistic? Game Realism vs Game Fun") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IHaoK1VY70) [Next page](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youre-asking-for-realism-seriously/102365.md?page=2)