# YouTubers need to stop crying...

**URL:** <https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 6, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994 "2017-05-06T21:08:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/defcon_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/61 "2017-05-16T19:58:00Z")

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> [@VonReisler](#):
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> edited…, but it has basically put people on notice that this is the future direction and hopefully ping limited servers will start to appear in BF1 and should definitely be the norm for the next BF.
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> If the youtubers have helped hasten some of these changes for the better then all credit to them.

Maybe so, but ping limited servers are surely the easy option? It would be genius for a game to work for everybody no matter their location, & the guy who figures that one out will deservedly become very rich…  
And perhaps I am being harsh, they ain’t all bad, but they do come out with some garbage too that then becomes mainstream & leads to a crap nerf/buff/change while other stuff doesn’t get addressed.

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**Author:** ![theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/theoneforce/32/103797_2.png) [@theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/theONEFORCE)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/62 "2017-05-16T20:25:00Z")

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The bayonet charge being fixed is an awesome move. If they fix spawning on dead teammates next the game would be near perfect. Those are two most annoying deaths in the game.

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**Author:** ![defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/defcon_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/63 "2017-05-16T20:30:00Z")

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@theONEFORCE _If they fix spawning on dead teammates next the game would be near perfect._ Couldn’t agree more, that & straight on top of enemies.

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**Author:** ![Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/sixclicks/32/103500_2.png) [@Sixclicks](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Sixclicks)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/64 "2017-05-16T20:58:00Z")

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1. Since when was bayonet charge ever a fun mechanic? Especially from a standing position 5 feet away? There’s absolutely zero reason it should have ever had any damage reduction as well.

2. Grenade spam was a legitimate problem. Use your gun.

3. Sentry healing trains do exist in TDM/DOM. It’s my primary game mode, and I always follow sentries around healing them when I play medic. And I see enemy medics do the same all the time for their own sentries. That said, I don’t think anything regarding the sentry or healing them needs to change. It works exactly how it should work. A sentry and medic team is a force to be reckoned with. If someone doesn’t like that, then just get to the sentry kit first. Not like it’s difficult to kill a sentry anyways… knife to the back, bayonet charge, gas grenade, concentrated fire from a few teammates, AT rockets, etc.

Honestly, I don’t think the YouTubers really have that much direct influence on DICE. They do however have a lot of influence on their followers. Which then turns into all of their followers flooding the various forums for these games complaining about the same “issues” that the YouTubers bring up.

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**Author:** ![defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/defcon_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/65 "2017-05-16T21:09:00Z")

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@Sixclicks hi

1. I will figure out how to post videos & show you…!
2. Yes I agree, should have been _now_ at launch. (The point was a guy moaning about grenade spam whilst spamming grenades all over the place)
3. Strangely enough you do see more medics helping out the sentry in TDM now. There was a time when your sentry could be bashing your medics round the face & they still wouldn’t give him a band aid!

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**Author:** ![nefariouscheat](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/nefariouscheat/32/102855_2.png) [@nefariouscheat](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/nefariouscheat)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 8:59am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/66 "2017-05-17T08:59:00Z")

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I see much people are offended about the Charge mechanic. So funny. 😛

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**Author:** ![Truffleshuffle03](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/truffleshuffle03/32/103895_2.png) [@Truffleshuffle03](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/Truffleshuffle03)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 9:05am UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/67 "2017-05-17T09:05:00Z")

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> [@theONEFORCE](#):
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> The bayonet charge being fixed is an awesome move. If they fix spawning on dead teammates next the game would be near perfect. Those are two most annoying deaths in the game.

I would not say near perfect but sure would be going in the right direction.

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**Author:** ![TamKingski](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TamKingski](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TamKingski)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/68 "2017-05-17T16:11:00Z")

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> [@Netranger9](#):
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> > [@defcon\_hostile](#):
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> > …or we won’t have a game left.  
> > Nerfing the crap out of bayonet charges now, another fun element gone. Cue whiny U-Tuber “he got me with a bayonet from up close wah-wah-wah”…  
> > Cried about grenades (watch some prominent U-Tuber’s videos, they don’t see the irony of throwing grenade after grenade themselves & then boo-hoo-hooing that their mega+ kill streak is ended by “grenade spam”) - Dice run around & change them.  
> > Murmurs that another U-Tuber doesn’t like sentries in TDM / Dom, even though he doesn’t play those modes, & makes inaccurate assessments of “medic trains” keeping the sentry alive (doesn’t happen) - so thinks they should be taken out.  
> > A few blokes on U-Tube should not have so much influence over the game, Dice should stop sucking up to them.
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> Getting bayonet charged when there is enough time to empty a whole clip into the scrub is not fun at all.It wouldn’t be so bad if you could counter it,but as it is now it is extremely frustrating.

Its even worse when your getting a bayonet from an invisible player that makes no sound. Basically a battlefield ninja -\_-

[![Video: Battlefield™ 1 invisible players](https://battlefieldforum.co/uploads/default/original/3X/0/b/0ba70069f65273537e27165cbc3a1ba16489b349.jpeg "Battlefield™ 1 invisible players") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV6baOeqPoM)

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**Author:** ![theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/theoneforce/32/103797_2.png) [@theONEFORCE](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/theONEFORCE)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/69 "2017-05-17T16:15:00Z")

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> [@Truffleshuffle03](#):
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> > [@theONEFORCE](#):
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> > The bayonet charge being fixed is an awesome move. If they fix spawning on dead teammates next the game would be near perfect. Those are two most annoying deaths in the game.
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> I would not say near perfect but sure would be going in the right direction.

I started playing video games on the NES. This game is the kind of thing I would have sawed my leg off for as a kid. My threshold for near perfect isn’t probably as high or as unrealistic as some people’s may be.

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**Author:** ![defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/defcon_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/70 "2017-05-17T16:17:00Z")

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> [@TamKingski](#):
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> Its even worse when your getting a bayonet from an invisible player that makes no sound. Basically a battlefield ninja -\_-

Wasn’t a bayonet, it was melee from a trench knife… Did seem to be invisible tho, different issue man.

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**Author:** ![TamKingski](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TamKingski](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TamKingski)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/71 "2017-05-17T16:22:00Z")

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> [@defcon\_hostile](#):
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> > [@TamKingski](#):
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> > Its even worse when your getting a bayonet from an invisible player that makes no sound. Basically a battlefield ninja -\_-
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> Wasn’t a bayonet, it was melee from a trench knife… Did seem to be invisible tho, different issue man.

If you look closely in the video,(20 sec mark)to my immediate left you will see my team mate drop dead from an invisible/soundless bayonet charge followed immediately by me getting knifed by that same invisible player.

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**Author:** ![defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/defcon_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/72 "2017-05-17T16:24:00Z")

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> [@theONEFORCE](#):
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> I started playing video games on the NES. This game is the kind of thing I would have sawed my leg off for as a kid.

Photo-realistic urban shooter with NVG’s that make that ping noise… If I start sawing now…

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**Author:** ![defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/defcon_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/73 "2017-05-17T16:25:00Z")

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@TamKingski will watch back on a bigger screen… Couldn’t see what killed your mate on me phone.

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**Author:** ![TamKingski](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TamKingski](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TamKingski)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/74 "2017-05-17T16:27:00Z")

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> [@defcon\_hostile](#):
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> @TamKingski will watch back on a bigger screen… Couldn’t see what killed your mate on me phone.

Its all gd buddy.

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**Author:** ![APBT](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@APBT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/APBT)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/75 "2017-05-17T16:29:00Z")

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That guy Level cap is starting to P me off.

Complains about grenades, but is always throwing with like 17 stars on the grenades he complains about.  
Talking about hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/defcon_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/76 "2017-05-17T16:55:00Z")

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> [@APBT](#):
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> That guy Level cap is starting to P me off.
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> Complains about grenades, but is always throwing with like 17 stars on the grenades he complains about.  
> Talking about hypocrisy.

Exactly ! I am so glad somebody else has noticed. Throws grenades all over the place, 1 in 4 might hit something. Spams then complains about spamming.

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**Author:** ![APBT](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@APBT](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/APBT)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/77 "2017-05-17T17:12:00Z")

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> [@defcon\_hostile](#):
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> > [@APBT](#):
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> > That guy Level cap is starting to P me off.
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> > Complains about grenades, but is always throwing with like 17 stars on the grenades he complains about.  
> > Talking about hypocrisy.
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> Exactly ! I am so glad somebody else has noticed. Throws grenades all over the place, 1 in 4 might hit something. Spams then complains about spamming.

Just watched a new video of him with the Scoped Martiny Henry variant and he’s going for bayonet charges and complains while playing it off as he goes on a montage.

He can’t help it.  
But I will say his videos do show legitimate arguments for the most part.

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**Author:** ![TIG\_blane](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b3f665/32.png) [@TIG\_blane](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/TIG_blane)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/78 "2017-05-17T18:34:00Z")

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He does the thing he complains about to show how broken it is.

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**Author:** ![defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@defcon\_hostile](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/defcon_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/79 "2017-05-17T18:54:00Z")

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@TIG_blane perhaps, or maybe has his fun & then makes sure no-one else can…!

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**Author:** ![HANSGRUBER30](https://battlefieldforum.co/user_avatar/battlefieldforum.co/hansgruber30/32/102169_2.png) [@HANSGRUBER30](https://battlefieldforum.co/u/HANSGRUBER30)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://battlefieldforum.co/t/youtubers-need-to-stop-crying/102994/80 "2017-05-17T19:04:00Z")

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> [@APBT](#):
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> That guy Level cap is starting to P me off.
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> Complains about grenades, but is always throwing with like 17 stars on the grenades he complains about.  
> Talking about hypocrisy.

Stopped watching his channel, I find his videos to casual for my liking.

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