The devs stated that they were toning down/removing the advantage high ping players received in the pre-patch notes, but when the patch rolled out it was never implemented and any mention of it was mysteriously removed from the notes. I don’t think they forgot. Like you I also don’t think ping is the sole problem. This game has issues with packet loss as well. My only question is will DICE LA address these issues in an upcoming patch, rather than focusing on needless nerfs and buffs. If they can’t implement a fix I wish they would be straightforward about it, rather than ignoring us and pretending like there’s no issue.
Just to clarify - I only have language to go from when looking for problem children on my server. I don’t tend to kick EU players unless I have kicked all Japanese players and the problem persists. Then I start working my way through the other languages starting with the furthest OOR from East Coast.
This is why I want some damn kind of ping displayed by the players in the broken POS called the admin tool.
I was trying to be respectful and give them the benefit of the doubt. I assumed they did implement the fixes they promised on the issue but failed. I am not shocked to hear they never came. Just like they stated South America would be getting their own servers. Of course, there is nothing in place to force region play even if they did. I appreciate the follow up. Like I said a few posts back, I walked away from the game but came back last week. The end result is a trip to GameStop. I feel like a total fool for spending $120 on this game. First the ps3 version and then jumping to the ps4 after their promise of HFU making things better against OORs. That did nothing but allow you to die with a 1/4 bullet vs. 1. I am beyond the promise of another fix. They have had more than enough opportunity to address the number 1 issue with the game and bring about balance. I am left with feeling they simply do not care. Lesson learned.
Just trying to look outside the box here but I’m sure it just takes time. I also realize it has been long enough since launch. But they already got our money and it looks to me like there is an obvious disconnect between them and the consumer. The only message they will ever hear is a loss in $$$$ with their product if people don’t buy it. OOR is a problem but this is still the only game I play, even with it’s issues. And it is fun most of the time.
Not every game will be perfect all the time, and I accept that. When funny things happen like 1 shot deaths, bullet sponge, around the corner deaths, etc. I of course get frustrated but then remind myself that what I see on my screen isn’t always what they see on theirs. If it gets to be too much, I turn it off. It will never be perfect unless it’s a LAN party. And it’s just a game. Find another server that kicks OOR etc. Like a lot of people, I hope these issues eventually get fixed. It will just take time IMO.
I am not seeking perfection and balance and fair play is not asking too much. I have “turned it off”, tried various internet test and even went as far as region jumping trying to find basic balance. I return briefly only too see the issue is far worse. As you know, I am a dedicated BF player and sure, the 15 minutes of game play out of a few hours where you are not being cheated, is a blast but that does not excuse that they have destroyed the only FPS I have supported since day one. They have done nothing to bring about balance. Only lip service. Enjoy your time in the pumpkin patch but the great pumpkin is not coming. Yes, they already have my money but I will think twice next time.
Hey on a brighter note, RDR is going to be remastered for the PS4
I find it most frustrating that we get so very little communication about this. Hands down the biggest complaint I hear about BF4 and what do we get in response? SRAW nerfs in CTE and pictures on our parachutes.
I think of it like when a manufacturer has a recall on a part on one of their products. Whatever the case may be, the manufacturer receives thousands of complaints before anything is done. Same thing here I would guess. It has been acknowledged, and one can only hope a fix is coming sooner rather than later.
If only people would just play in the region closest to them and not deliberately play OOR,especially if they have their own.
Not played in a while and I realise why now.Absolutely abysmal lag stutter and hit reg.And people tell me this is better than advanced warfare lol who you trying to kid.
I totally understand. A lot of my friends have walked away from this game. I take extended breaks here and there because the game becomes more aggravating than fun at times. Last time I took 3-4 weeks off. Like you I switched over from PS3 because I thought the PS4 version would be “better”, needless to say I was in for a rude awakening (new gen, same ). The only reason I still play BF4 is because there are no other games out there right now that interest me. Hoping that changes in the near future with some upcoming titles. Honestly if they released Insurgency or Red Orchestra for PS4 I would stop playing BF4. After this game, one thing is for certain, this will be the LAST game that I ever pre-order from DICE. The abysmal launch was one thing, but the lack of communication and support is a slap in the face.
Anyone that buys hard line needs some sort of mental health check.And no they are never gonna sort out the oor issue as the game is working as its designed to.They had to give ridiculous amounts of lag comp due to only a few regions getting servers and people have now picked up on this and use it to there advantage. Move on to pulling your legs off its more fun
I think the only people who will buy hardline will be the new players who have switched from cod and can’t see past the destruction side yet, I don’t think many of us die hards will be purchasing IMO, I definitely will not, I’ll give the beta a go so I can have a break from bf4 for a week but no way will I be giving money for it. The lack of response on this issue is astounding, we all know the mods are reading every comment on here and I am sure they are sending the info back, they need to seek permission from the devs for a response so we at least know we’re we stand.
I think some may be forgetting that prior to the November patch, the issue was shouted to the developers by many memebrs of this forum. In fact, they welcomed suggestions and the like on a open CTE thread where Developers would answers comments. They admitted to high ping abuse and other OOR related issues. They promised a fix, as well as more regional severs. I believed in them wholehearted and supported their every word and yet, here we are… Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein
