I have a feeling when the statement comes it’s not going to be you who has to apologize? Calling you out specifically was pretty bold… and completely unnecessary. You just said what everyone was thinking. Break a 25 day silence to admonish the community for noticing a 25 day silence… on a super duper big issue… doesn’t make much sense other than to try and quiet a disgruntled community.
because until the communication has been approved, nobody can say anything… legalities and large corporations.
There’s enough talent in an average middle school intro to programming class to do it. The problem comes in after that step, both in having to deal with customer service fallout and in this day and age potential frivolous lawsuits. There’s also the problem of automated filters being completely blind to context and thus false positives.
legalities and large corp > games and gamers 1-0
Maybe they learned a lesson (the wrong one) from CoD’s fourzerotwo and iwnet? The way they released that info, by having fourzerotwo talk it up beforehand, was an utter failure that drove a lot of people away from the franchise. I didn’t buy that game and haven’t bought a CoD since. Maybe their thinking is, “we definitely don’t wanna do that”?
Times have changed a bit. Yes, I might buy it, but if it’s terrible I can return it. I can do that now; before I could not.
You cannot just spit out the simple truth and say what you’ve changed. Each word has to be carefully crafted. Right now the questions aren’t at all about the servers; instead, they’re about us, the public: just exactly what will they buy and what will they protest? how much can we really tell them?
Who’d have thought being smug who presumed to tell the community what the community needed would lead to disaster?
the more things change…
Same here ! I left COD some years ago . I have no issues not buying a game today because of what is included or whats not included . Refunds are great for the consumer and will many times show a dev. that the game is trash .
IMO, EA/Dice is stalling ! In my 300 plus games I have tested for various devs. in the last 20 years, one thing is for sure . Devs. like to keep games hyped and well advertised . When a dev. stalls the consumers about a feature in the game, its usually not going to be good .
I like EA/Dice and have no real issues with them .But I also have pre-order many games from them and canceled them just as quick . There is always be another dev. who will be more than happy to take my money .
One of the main reasons that made me fled from consoles was the poor choices made regarding server “administration” (if that is a word!!?)
High ping Limits and auto kick\ban for high ping is just a precious tool …something that consoles dont have and by the way this is going Pc will lose it too…
It like console mind set is spreading to the Pc platform also…
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agree however have many weeks until release? this should have been already done
Because EA has plans they know we will not like. The PC community couldn’t wait to walk away from SW Battlefront in part because of the terrible way servers operate. EA doesn’t want to repeat that with BF1, so they’re hoping if the game itself runs well and the servers are kinda sorta not too bad we’ll stick around even if we’re not thrilled about the rumored loss of admin control. It’s kind of like the car dealer who hopes once you take a test drive and savor that new car smell you’ll forget about the stuff you don’t like. I think they underestimate how strongly a lot of clans feel about not being able to run servers they pay for.
The notion that EA’s legal dept. has to sign off on telling us whether or not server renters will still be able to use RCON based tools is hilarious. We already had our servers ordered after the BF4 beta, but now they have to review the fine print for the 8th time? LOL, not credible.
Nobody hides good news.
This close to release with no info I think we can take it as a given that we are all going to be shafted probably with a pineapple.
I reaaaaalllly hope its the opposite and they are just all “Sorry guys, we hadn’t finished yet but here it is, rented servers, full admin control, built-in plugins, all within the game UI, enjoy”.
pre-orders intensify*
I think I missed posting yesterday, so I’m sorry for that.
I’ve been advised we should have some information very soon, but I don’t have an exact date.
As more details come and I can share them, I will.
Thanks.
-Braddock512-
with 16 days to go I would like to say you are right, but it is not looking good.
To be entirely fair, I’d consider 16 days “very soon” in and of itself.
I know, Im grasping at straws here. I really did like the beta and if admin servers don’t exist I won’t be buying the game which makes me quite sad.
atta boy!
Thank you for keeping us in the loop.
They are more than likely awaiting finalization on the legal requirements for the plugins, as they cant use John Doe’s plugin he wrote for procon as this would be liable !