BF1 Servers - Thread for discussion of server rentals and settings*

Finalized “prediction” … Just my opinion based on what we know and don’t know and things EA is doing with other franchises.

Server Hosting
If we are looking at MS Azure, Amazon EC2 as the host (rumored) you only need to take a peek at TitanFall 2’s server setup. TFall2 from what I can tell won’t have rentals, but the setup is nonetheless brilliant. A cloud based structure yields very little overhead, has rapid deployment and the update process (patching) will be superiorly faster. Need to adjust resources for the latest patch? Click, blink, reboot … Done! Performance and stability shouldn’t be an issue. The Beta proved that.

Another bonus to the cloud setup is if EA is going to play GSP, most of the system can be automated. Order a server, payment clears .. boom server is up and running. Here’s your login info, it’s attached to your guid. Now go twiddle the settings. No waiting on a GSP to do anything.

I’m an old school bare metal box guy. But, if they can offer the same or better performance this way with rapid deployment…I’m sold. At least on the tech.

Administration UI
Absolutely Unknown. Could be server browser based (built in like I noted in an earlier post), or web based. Personally I think it’s going to be built into the server browser. I’m also pretty confident in a companion proprietary rcon utility (EA Exclusive) being available. Phogue was hired for a reason! The Battlefield Companion mobile app may potentially have some admin abilities built in as well.

Admin Perms/Abilities
I wholeheartedly expect to see Kick/Ban, Vote Map, Mix mode rotations, limits/customizations as spec’d pg 4 (more than likely more), custom messages, Whitelist … so on and so forth. I do not expect to see 3rd party plugins. Would be nice, but it’s not needed.

The big hit I see “potentially” coming is that certain custom settings ( mainly limits ) will force servers to an unranked status.

This is just my opinion … hopes. My wishful thinking and analysis doesn’t change what we do or don’t know.

~ optimistic post

At this point it is getting too close to the release date to really do anything about renting a server for a Clan

In the past, we would have already polled our members - what size of server do we want to rent, how many, what modes, what do we do with our BF4 server, what do we do with our support server that runs Procon, etc.

With the lack of info from EA - they are basically forcing our hand to NOT get a BF1 server at this point, even if they do become available and allow some sort of rcon access. And, without ‘community servers’ count me as someone who won’t be purchasing this game either

Honestly, if they wait till the 13th and we get the information from unofficial sources before DICE themselves I’ll be done with the game. I’ll be beyond caring whether they give us the expected functionality or not. Even if they somehow exceed expectations it’ll be offset by the inexcusable communication lapses. Best case if that happens, I pick up the game on sale when/if DICE LA take over stewardship. If it lives that long. It’ll also be strike three on DICE themselves, after the BF4 launch and Battlefront.

The only plausible explanation is the news is bad. No way EA would be this opaque if it was good news in any way. Prepare for disappointment, Soon ™.

Like I said, I completely agree they have waited far too long.

Ok, and we can get into debates with anyone as long as you don’t cross the line. Once that happens, we have to “put the badge on”. That will make us look like a bully regardless. As I said before, I don’t care what people think of my opinions… they are my opinion, but if you start bashing an opinion directly and becoming out of line, we will handle it. I am a reasonable person, but if you start getting out of line, expect to be actioned on here.

I do love irony… thank you for this.

I must have missed the post by Braddock, or anyone else at EA/DICE saying the hold up on releasing server info was because of the legal team. Can someone link me please? Thanks.

Or moderator, right? If a moderator can speculate, with no facts posted by EA/DICE, then please explain how these same mods can dump on the customer base for doing the same thing? I’d love to have that “reasoning” explained… because I’m stupid and ignorant.

You must not know how companies work. EA has a communications team and a legal team… both of them have to give the go ahead on when things are communicated. He didn’t say it because he assumed (obviously incorrectly) people knew how the world works. This thread is obviously gone… locking it now so no further spread of misinformation can continue

Apologies for not posting on Friday/Saturday. I’m actually at TwitchCon and, as you can imagine, wifi is a bit strained.

Poolshark’s announcement thread will be the source of truth and details once I have a detailed and informative message ready. We are anticipating it this week, so please stand by.

Any additional threads will be closed to avoid spam on the forums.

-Braddock512-

You sir are damn right, also your last post in that closed thread was golden.

This thread is re-opened. However, should it devolve into completely a non-constructive rumor-mill again, it will be locked.

Do not create additional threads. We will keep this open for discussion, questions, etc. all others will be locked.

-Braddock512-

Thanks.

Cheers man

For me the heart and sole in playing Battlefield over the years has been the communities that server rental brings. There is something endearing and special about playing with friends with this mechanism in place. The biggest factor for purchase consideration for BF1 is this decision. The main reason why is the control over cheaters, official measures aren’t enough because they are too slow. Everything is open to cheats but own server control gives added layers on top of that which is, after 15+ years of FPS play is what means the most to me. More could be done to bring the communities together that run servers and generate safer environments in turn leading to game recommendation (which I’m sure is a success metric) Vs a Battlefront type approach. Don’t destroy this game before it even comes out for so many that are used to the added protection layers that come with server rentals. Thanks for listening.

Thank you @Braddock512

Well since we can’t speculate on the announcement that’s coming “soon” and the mods have proven worse than useless at dispelling misconceptions pending said announcement what else is there to discuss? Constructively candid community feedback on the process that led us to where we’re sitting perhaps? I mean I don’t want to come off as overly hostile, but at this point, if I’m being honest we passed mildly irked a long time ago and the reassuring glow of white hot fury is visible over the horizon.

I mean let’s be blunt here, you DO realize what a quagmire has been created here that should’ve been a relatively simple matter of answering a question? The DICE corporate structure does at some level comprehend what they’re teetering on with this sort of thing if it becomes anything remotely resembling standard operating rules?

Well, point is that if there will be dedicated servers then it’s really easy for EA to just announce it up front, why not? They never were so secretive about this before and what would they lose?

But now suddenly they are, which seems to me they think their ‘announcement’ regarding dedicated servers will lose them pre-orders. Hence why they are keeping it quiet until release. Because after release you can’t cancel pre-orders :slight_smile:

And don’t come with ‘They are still working on it’. Please. It’s two weeks before launch, don’t make me laugh.

The sad thing is, they may quite literally still be working on it… which has troubling implications for whomever was in charge of keeping things on schedule. No sane management would willingly cut things this close.

I suppose if we dont get to run servers on nfo like in the past we can ask for a refund on the money wasted on getting dedicated boxes for our 1 server in prep of bf1?

I mean, I guess its our fault we thought BF1 could be hosted on the best server NFO had at the time. and we decided our server would run better there too. So we upgraded. So We could handle a bf4 and a bf1 at once. It was a good clan decision at the time. But you see, thats the thing, Clans have to decide on what to do with the money and donations BEFORE A GAME COMES OUT!!!

Now we may or may not be stuck with larger payments because no one knows whats going on. I can say, that as a group, We wont mass purchase the game til we know for sure.

You can buy the game on release date, try it and return it if you dont like it.
but the same does not apply for preorder?? Do i understand it correct.