To me this is going backwards. People want more freedom not less, and they are doing exactly the opposite of what the consumer wants. To me, choice is everything. I should have the choice to play on an official server with no rules, or a private server with a ton of rules. I should have to choice to gamble on a adminless-server with a high chance of cheating douchebaggery going on, or the choice to play on a strict admin always one server. The point is, I should have the freedom to choose how I want to play, not have the choice made for me by some bigwig who doesn’t have a clue to what players want. I hope some sense of reality comes back to them as I really do want to play bf1, but right now it’s looking more like battlefront which was just a terrible, terrible game, and a step backwards, not forwards.
Nailed it!
I’ve gone ahead and canceled my pre-order for this game. I’m not going to drop over a hundred bucks on this when they continue this charade of not giving us some of the most obvious information we need as communities. Looks like for the immediate future we’re going to continue with BF4 only.
If they take full server control away then I hope the game bombs like the last two games. First BF game I have not pre-ordered damn shame they have decided to meddle to far 
Thank you for these awesome words ! I may add that if someone is going to buy/rent something, we should also have the right to choose what we want . And from what I’m reading about the rental server program from EA this is not possible .
All I can say is express your thoughts with your wallet !
What exactly are they then? When you flip them on/off they have an effect. They do in fact change the play setting regardless of things being automated or not.
Where are you getting your information? Your comment above comes across as fact. I want to see the proof. No one here knows what options and or features will be available come release.
If Procon doesn’t work with BF1 servers and there is no RCON then what I said is true. It is pretty obvious there will not be an RCON. If there is no automation, there is little or no administration. These are facts.
Trouble is Console players will be getting more choice while PC players get shafted, compared to what they are used too.
Say for example the game under sells, on PC, fewer servers are rented, and so forth.
While Console sells on projected targets, and server rentals are more than expected.
You can bet your bottom dollar if the next few years they just won’t bother with PC anymore, too much hassle and not enough sales, all despite the fact that it’s all their own doing.
pc players get shafted? no, some server owners may feel like that, but the average player (the ones who make up the vast majority of players, won’t feel shafted
Getting out over your skis again?
Facts are what was posted in the Blog.
@S1ngular1ty You continue to post assumptions and label them as facts, with zero details to back you up other than the argument that “If there’s no RCON, there’s no control.” At this point, unless you have 100% proof and evidence (of which you don’t, but I’m working on getting actual real information), it’s probably best to rephrase your “facts” with “assumptions” or “my opinion”.
You don’t have official information because it hasn’t been released yet. That’s a fact.
Otherwise, it’s conjecture and assumptions.
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You act as if Procon is the only way to do any of this. You also do not need automation to have a lot of administration capabilities. I don’t recall BF1942, BF Vietnam or BF 2 having Procon. I don’t even recall your precious 2142 having procon. AND SOMEHOW admins still go the job done quite easily. Clans and Communities thrived. In fact most of the largest communities from 2002 - 2007 mainly used in-game console commands. !kill, !kick, !ban, !nextmap. I explicitly remember having votemap and votekick built directly into the BFV game browser (scoreboard ALT option).
I wasn’t saying my assumptions were facts. I specifically said, if there is no automation, then there is little or no administration. This is a fact. It is kind of hard to administrate a server without automated tools. I’ll clarify better from here on.
What was in the blog barely qualifies as facts. More an insult really, than anything substantive.
Ever hear of BF2CC? Based on what you typed - it is evident that you do not know what your talking about…
http://bf2cc.com/
I didn’t say it was impossible. It is just hard to admin without automation. Unless people these days don’t sleep, eat, or function in society I mean. We still have no info on specifying other admins besides the server owner. This just makes automation even more important.
@Braddock512 How would moderating this forum be if you didn’t have the ability to kick or ban?
@Braddock512 How would moderating this forum be if you didn’t have the ability to kick or ban?[/quote]
- Just send in an report and EA will check it out within 4 weeks, until then we’ll just have to hope
This reminds me of most games these days. "Oh a cheater? report.. - Wait , wait - not banned yet .. wait 1 week - still not banned .. week 2.. nevermind no ban.. week3 .. no ban , “f*** this game”.
touché
@GitSum - Don’t get me wrong. I understand the point. That is why I’m continuing to push for answers to the questions being asked.
@S1ngular1ty That’s all I ask. Thank you.
-Braddock512-
@Braddock512 you know what would be amazing and would seems like there is still some hope? If your world leaders in EA took few questions, even if some “not so important ones” and answer em. Now its obvious that the stalling tactic is on place, couse there is so many questions and “they want to answer em right” and all of em at once ofc