There are already tons of complaints and criticisms of the game based on those that have seen the trailer(s), I’m kind of surprised… Really, what did everyone expect? The two main military FPS franchises (CoD and BF) have really done nothing new since inception, they have essentially the exact same gameplay as day one. Sure, the walls come apart now, the game is prettier and you have more weapons; but it’s exactly the same. I would even suggest that BF has gotten slightly worse, no mods, can’t spec a player and no naval warfare and the aircraft fly like crap compared to DC (But that’s JMPO).
I see exactly what I expected: Improved graphics, new maps and some new weapons.
So what did you expect?
I expected them to fix it. They didn’t. No worries I gave up a while back as I’ve gone back to BF2 and we’re modding it again 
I didn’t expect anything revolutionary, given the small development window (I assume this is primarily EA’s doing, trying to cash in while BF3 is hot), but honestly I was hoping for more than what was shown.
It really does look like BF3.5, that could be good or bad.
If it’s BF3, with optimizations, fixes, and some rebalancing (fix suppression, spectator mode, all the other issues that players want) I can deal with that. If it turns into the BF3 us hardcore fans originally wanted, then that would be great.
If it’s simply a rehash of BF3 with improved graphics and some extra weapons or whatever, then I’m not impressed.
I’ll probably still get it. BF3 is one of the most fun games I’ve played despite all it’s faults. The competitive scene on PC is full of clowns now, but I met a lot of great people while it was thriving. If they can capitalize on the E-Sports aspect of it, then I’ll be very excited.
Mod Tools would be great too, but I think that’s simply a pipedream now.
How could they fix it? I mean other than the lousy server-based hit detection, lousy anti-cheat, and weapons that are so nerfed and out of whack with what their capabilities should be it’s ridiculous.
There are pages and pages and pages of NEEDED changes on what to do with BF4 to make it better. It’s one of the sticky posts on the forums.
Wish I could say I went to those forums, but it’s too full of nerd rage, nerfed weapons, whining about noobs and everything else. Not worth sifting through the junk to find a logical post.
True, and i wouldn’t want to risk losing access to the games i paid for by posting on the forums, ever.
Check out MordorHQ. More mature discussions on BF3: http://www.mordorhq.com/
Also Symthic is another good source for some mature discussion:
http://symthic.com/
Well, the hit-detection is client side, not server side in BF3. So fixing that would be a good start.
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Weapon/Class balance would be nice. Granted, there will ALWAYS be a best weapon/best class in vanilla games. Which is why I don’t mind the Medic + M16/AEK. Not to mention, good players will roll with any gun…
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Bug Fixes: ACTUAL bug fixes. This is DICE’s definition of a bug fix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ulAZl6ELWMg
TV Missiles have been bugged FOREVER, and this is their method of fixing it. The LAST DLC we’ll ever get for BF3. Probably one of the last patches too.
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Access to Mod Tools or at the very least expanded server customization.
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Rebalance of suppression: Either make it a mechanic that’s STRICTLY applied to the support classes LMGs (making support more balanced and viable) or get rid of the random bullet deviation, and only make it blur the screen, which would be ideal.
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Allow suppression removal via server side options (assuming it’s not fixed).
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Fix buggy vaulting.
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Fix buggy “Bad Luck” deaths
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Fix the INSANE list of bugs. The community (via Battlelog, Symthic, and MordorHQ) have compiled a HUGE list of bugs. DICE doesn’t even need to go searching. It’s even ordered by priority.
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E-Sports Support/Battle Recorder: A must have for the longevity and growth of the game. It might only affect a niche group of players, but there is a direct correlation between thriving E-Sports communities, and the quality/longevity of a game.
The thing is, DICE needs to embrace the community. That’s what creates great games. The players surrounding the game. There is a reason why Team Fortress, Day of Defeat and Counter-Strike are still revered, even this many years after their release. They are the product of the community. The community knows what’s best for the game. NOT the developer. LISTEN to the community DICE, I promise, you’ll make a better game and make MORE money at the same time…
How’s that? Post something deemed inappropriate and get a system-wide ban? I’m guilty of nerd rage posts on there a couple of times, like after they reset knife kills in 2142 and nerfed the guns and frag rounds in bf3. I got the usual mature responses (/s), but nothing bad happened.
They can ban your account whenever they deem fit. It’s happened to friends of mine.
The Battlelog forums are consistently and constantly censored as well. No matter the relevancy or objectivity of the posts.
There has been a few poeple who were banned from the forums in the initial months of the release and were then unable to log into Origin/BF3 subsequently.
http://bf3blog.com/2011/11/battlefield-3-player-banned-for-72-hours-for-saying-badass-on-forums/
Re: hit detection - seems it’s a hybrid of both client and server side, either way it sucks. It favors those outside the 40-100 ping range, which is where most of us fall. All those 20 and 200 ping SOBs are either jumping all over the place or moving at light-speed.
Yes, there are a boatload of bad hit-boxes and other issues that you’ve mentioned. And you’re right about the other issues too. I hope they’ll fix them in bf4, in a way it’s astonishing they can spend years developing a game and can’t get the most basic thing right like getting the modeling right for the hitbox geometry.
I’ve been censored there. But, their forums, their rules whether we agree with them or not.
Yeah, that’s a crock. When the game first came out you couldn’t type swear words. What a load of bs, especially the game characters swore all the time.
Additionally, I think I might be one of the few that has a problem with this whole balancing thing. I’m sick if being picked off by an iron sighted MP5 at 200 yards, or head shotted by a 9mm at 100 yards, especially if I’m unloading an LMG at them in bursts or using an automatic rifle. No. F’n. Way.
I’m a huge graphics person, I feel like it helps emerse me. So I am happy with the graphics I saw, but I still think BC2 looks good f not better than bf3 in terms of texture. I hope they focus on making the gameplay better. Didn’t really feel like an improvement from BC2 to bf3. Just stop trying to be COD.
I would never compare BF to CoD. Not even close.