BFV Preorder to get new guns is appalling

[ssjsnoop]

Hey guys,

So I was on here a couple months ago expressing how much I loved the game but after the abysmal last two dlcs and all the changes made in the game I was going to end my time with BF1 and move on. I was even playing Battlefront 2 for a long time even though I am now on my last legs with it due to the lack of, well, everything.

Anyways, after sinking 353hrs into Battlefield 1, Battlefront 2 being very trashy, and most importantly the announcement of Shock Operations(Single Map Ops that I knew they could do a year ago), I am coming back to this game to try them, especially Prise de Tahure. If they can just also do Nivelle Nights, then I’m good on caring about any maps still left out of OPs.

So back to BFV. I saw the trailer. Displeased. Looks very bombastic and CoD-like, specifically regarding tone. Do not like where the game is heading, atmosphere-wise and features as well.

There are still a ton of people that love what they saw and will get the game. Good for them, I have no problem with that. I do not waste my time talking about games I don’t care about. UNLESS, like in this case, it affects another game I do care about.

Now the matter at hand. It is unconscionable that the only way to get 5 new guns(or their assignments rather) added to the game is to Pre-Order Battlefield 5(V). I can’t believe they would do this to their fans.

It’s really shocking that they use a tactic like this to nudge people hard toward buying their new game. It’s so greedy. Coming off Battlefront 2 and all the misery they’ve put their fans through, I have no empathy for this business practice. It’s wrong, gross, and disappointing.

Please Share Your Thoughts.

Thank You.

[forsa6200]

Ill pre-order right now if they bring back

1. Hellriegel Defensive
2. Parabellum Storm
3. MKIII Sniper
4. Fedorov Avtomat Optical

Btw never bought premium since BF4, all dlc i have is because of the guns they offered.

[ssjsnoop]

What do you mean “bring back”? They removed those guns from the game?

Edit: Nevermind, you mean if they bring those guns to BFV. Gotcha.

But Wow, that’s all it takes huh? lol

[trip1ex]

wouldn’t be the internets if people didn’t constantly over react to everything.

[forsa6200]

@ssjsnoop

What do you mean “bring back”? They removed those guns from the game?

Edit: Nevermind, you mean if they bring those guns to BFV. Gotcha.

But Wow, that’s all it takes huh? lol

LOL yup… never bought premium since bf3. I only bought separate Bf4 and Bf1 dlcs becoz of the guns. I dont care about other stuff since vanilla maps are the most populated everytime

I paid to win literally 4 years back before everything blow up in 2017.. lol.

[SunnyTheWerewolf]

What is appalling about it?!

You received everything and more than what you were promised regardless of the version of BF1 you purchased.

Cry me a river… they are basically just re-skins with very slight differences and the majority of players would not choose to use them over the other variants even if they were available to all.

And there are no assignments associated with them.

[von_Campenstein]

Is it, is it really? It’s EA, gouging is what they do.

[bran1986]

I mean you can just preorder and immediately cancel and still get to keep the guns.

[boutneus]

@bran1986

I mean you can just preorder and immediately cancel and still get to keep the guns.

Hoops to jump through, no thnx. Why would we have 2? Not even worth the hassle

[TamKingski]

@bran1986

I mean you can just preorder and immediately cancel and still get to keep the guns.

That dont work on some platforms,they are wise to the old pre order then cancel trick.
Take the PlayStation network for example,most pre orders that offer something that can be used accessed before the game is released like say a theme/beta/digital comic etc usually have a disclaimer that says in bold yellow writing “requires immediate payment”.

The recent south park game was the same it came with a copy of the previous game and also required immediate payment. Im willing to bet its the same for bfV pre orders if it includes skins for immediate use in bf1.

Edit-just checked on psn,both versions of bfv pre orders say “immediate payment required”

Just to add,im not surprised EA/Dice use these tactics to sell pre orders,im actually more annoyed that EA/dice want 59.99 British pounds for the standard edition of the game,full retail price is 54.99 in the uk yet EA/Dice seem to think they are special and are trying to get away with 59.99!

Seems EA always want that little bit more their greed knows no bounds and will shamelessly push and push untill they make it happen or cause a backlash from gamers then they pull out the “but games cost too much to make so we need to be greedy”,while glossing over the fact that most of the games budget was wasted on unnecessarily huge marketing campaigns,but no no no we cant just spend less on stupidly expensive market campaigns to keep the budget in check we will just charge the consumer more and more cash.

[crabman169]

lmao

They are five reskin variants.
You can preorder the game, get the weapons and cancel preorder without spending a cent (or $5 deposit in store)

They are not op; they honestly aren’t even that good.

How is this scummy? That if you faith and want the next upcoming title they give you some toys to play with right now? I don’t know about anyone else but I haven’t seen other preorder ever give you some content straight up 5 months before the game drops.
(I mean cod preorders give you 1100 cod points for their Lootboxes but what’s to say you won’t get the same camo you’ve gotten the last dozen times instead of a weapon etc)

Really the only party anyone should be irritated at is Sony for being * and demanding immediate payment of a digital preorder.

You could also wait for the Road to Battlefield V challenges to offer em (I’m not 100% on this but the preorder does say immediate access not exclusive and all the R2BFV challenges are not currently presented e.g. Two dlc themed dogtags).

I mean the real irony of all the debacle over these preorder weapons in that they are WW2 weapons in bf1; people cry about a woeman in a trailer yet demand to have 5 ww2 weapons in a ww1 game because it’s their right, they bought the game/premium so they are apparantly entitled to em (which no; no you are not).

@TamKingski

@bran1986

I mean you can just preorder and immediately cancel and still get to keep the guns.

That dont work on some platforms,they are wise to the old pre order then cancel trick.
Take the PlayStation network for example,most pre orders that offer something that can be used accessed before the game is released like say a theme/beta/digital comic etc usually have a disclaimer that says in bold yellow writing “requires immediate payment”.

The recent south park game was the same it came with a copy of the previous game and also required immediate payment. Im willing to bet its the same for bfV pre orders if it includes skins for immediate use in bf1.

Edit-just checked on psn,both versions of bfv pre orders say “immediate payment required”

Just to add,im not surprised EA/Dice use these tactics to sell pre orders,im actually more annoyed that EA/dice want 59.99 British pounds for the standard edition of the game,full retail price is 54.99 in the uk yet EA/Dice seem to think they are special and are trying to get away with 59.99!

Seems EA always want that little bit more their greed knows no bounds and will shamelessly push and push untill they make it happen or cause a backlash from gamers then they pull out the “but games cost too much to make so we need to be greedy”,while glossing over the fact that most of the games budget was wasted on unnecessarily huge marketing campaigns,but no no no we cant just spend less on stupidly expensive market campaigns to keep the budget in check we will just charge the consumer more and more cash.

Use ea access; 10%. Oh wait PlayStation doesn’t have that either.

Buy it physically if Sony is charging you a whole $5 more.

RNGesus I’d love to pay $59.99

[TamKingski]

Edit double post

[TamKingski]

@crabman169

lmao

They are five reskin variants.
You can preorder the game, get the weapons and cancel preorder without spending a cent (or $5 deposit in store)

They are not op; they honestly aren’t even that good.

How is this scummy? That if you faith and want the next upcoming title they give you some toys to play with right now? I don’t know about anyone else but I haven’t seen other preorder ever give you some content straight up 5 months before the game drops.
(I mean cod preorders give you 1100 cod points for their Lootboxes but what’s to say you won’t get the same camo you’ve gotten the last dozen times instead of a weapon etc)

Really the only party anyone should be irritated at is Sony for being * and demanding immediate payment of a digital preorder.

You could also wait for the Road to Battlefield V challenges to offer em (I’m not 100% on this but the preorder does say immediate access not exclusive and all the R2BFV challenges are not currently presented e.g. Two dlc themed dogtags).

I mean the real irony of all the debacle over these preorder weapons in that they are WW2 weapons in bf1; people cry about a woeman in a trailer yet demand to have 5 ww2 weapons in a ww1 game because it’s their right, they bought the game/premium so they are apparantly entitled to em (which no; no you are not).

@TamKingski

@bran1986

I mean you can just preorder and immediately cancel and still get to keep the guns.

That dont work on some platforms,they are wise to the old pre order then cancel trick.
Take the PlayStation network for example,most pre orders that offer something that can be used accessed before the game is released like say a theme/beta/digital comic etc usually have a disclaimer that says in bold yellow writing “requires immediate payment”.

The recent south park game was the same it came with a copy of the previous game and also required immediate payment. Im willing to bet its the same for bfV pre orders if it includes skins for immediate use in bf1.

Edit-just checked on psn,both versions of bfv pre orders say “immediate payment required”

Just to add,im not surprised EA/Dice use these tactics to sell pre orders,im actually more annoyed that EA/dice want 59.99 British pounds for the standard edition of the game,full retail price is 54.99 in the uk yet EA/Dice seem to think they are special and are trying to get away with 59.99!

Seems EA always want that little bit more their greed knows no bounds and will shamelessly push and push untill they make it happen or cause a backlash from gamers then they pull out the “but games cost too much to make so we need to be greedy”,while glossing over the fact that most of the games budget was wasted on unnecessarily huge marketing campaigns,but no no no we cant just spend less on stupidly expensive market campaigns to keep the budget in check we will just charge the consumer more and more cash.

Use ea access; 10%. Oh wait PlayStation doesn’t have that either.

Buy it physically if Sony is charging you a whole $5 more.

RNGesus I’d love to pay $59.99

Sony do not set the prices on PlayStation network the publisher does.

Currently for the standard edition of bfv on the uk PlayStation store EA wants 59.99 pounds,thats 5 pounds more than standard retail prices for video games in the uk. 59.99 pounds converts to 79.99 dollars. On the usa psn the standard edition of bfv costs 59.99 dollars thats 45.17 pounds. Even tax doesnt explain the difference,greed does though.

As i said EA are yet again pushing to see what they can get away with,the got rumbled with pay to win in battlefront 2 so now they are trying to push up retail prices in specific regions. I Wouldn’t be quick to dismiss this,because if accepted i bet your region will be next for a retail price increase. Also note its only EA games that are charging 59.99 retail on psn everyone else is still 54.99.

[zombifiedstalker]

Whilst I do feel that it’s wrong and a bit of a middle finger up at those who have paid for the “Premium Experience”. I wouldn’t want to overstate it. After all, it’s only a game. It’s not like they’re out clubbing baby seals or blockading food shipments to starving communities.
They’re a game company and as such, can do what they like provided it’s legal. As others have said, if u want the guns just play their cynical game, preorder and cancel if you’re able.
No point in yowling at the traffic over this.

[TEKNOCODE]

@crabman169

lmao

They are five reskin variants.
You can preorder the game, get the weapons and cancel preorder without spending a cent (or $5 deposit in store)

They are not op; they honestly aren’t even that good.

How is this scummy? That if you faith and want the next upcoming title they give you some toys to play with right now? I don’t know about anyone else but I haven’t seen other preorder ever give you some content straight up 5 months before the game drops.
(I mean cod preorders give you 1100 cod points for their Lootboxes but what’s to say you won’t get the same camo you’ve gotten the last dozen times instead of a weapon etc)

Really the only party anyone should be irritated at is Sony for being * and demanding immediate payment of a digital preorder.

You could also wait for the Road to Battlefield V challenges to offer em (I’m not 100% on this but the preorder does say immediate access not exclusive and all the R2BFV challenges are not currently presented e.g. Two dlc themed dogtags).

I mean the real irony of all the debacle over these preorder weapons in that they are WW2 weapons in bf1; people cry about a woeman in a trailer yet demand to have 5 ww2 weapons in a ww1 game because it’s their right, they bought the game/premium so they are apparantly entitled to em (which no; no you are not).

@TamKingski

@bran1986

I mean you can just preorder and immediately cancel and still get to keep the guns.

That dont work on some platforms,they are wise to the old pre order then cancel trick.
Take the PlayStation network for example,most pre orders that offer something that can be used accessed before the game is released like say a theme/beta/digital comic etc usually have a disclaimer that says in bold yellow writing “requires immediate payment”.

The recent south park game was the same it came with a copy of the previous game and also required immediate payment. Im willing to bet its the same for bfV pre orders if it includes skins for immediate use in bf1.

Edit-just checked on psn,both versions of bfv pre orders say “immediate payment required”

Just to add,im not surprised EA/Dice use these tactics to sell pre orders,im actually more annoyed that EA/dice want 59.99 British pounds for the standard edition of the game,full retail price is 54.99 in the uk yet EA/Dice seem to think they are special and are trying to get away with 59.99!

Seems EA always want that little bit more their greed knows no bounds and will shamelessly push and push untill they make it happen or cause a backlash from gamers then they pull out the “but games cost too much to make so we need to be greedy”,while glossing over the fact that most of the games budget was wasted on unnecessarily huge marketing campaigns,but no no no we cant just spend less on stupidly expensive market campaigns to keep the budget in check we will just charge the consumer more and more cash.

Use ea access; 10%. Oh wait PlayStation doesn’t have that either.

Buy it physically if Sony is charging you a whole $5 more.

RNGesus I’d love to pay $59.99

I received 10% by ordering through the bfv tab in bf1 and then another 10% from ea access. Oh, I haven’t been charged yet because Microsoft does not take payment until 10 days prior to release.

But, I digress.

It’s not appalling.

[TamKingski]

@TEKNOCODE

@crabman169

lmao

They are five reskin variants.
You can preorder the game, get the weapons and cancel preorder without spending a cent (or $5 deposit in store)

They are not op; they honestly aren’t even that good.

How is this scummy? That if you faith and want the next upcoming title they give you some toys to play with right now? I don’t know about anyone else but I haven’t seen other preorder ever give you some content straight up 5 months before the game drops.
(I mean cod preorders give you 1100 cod points for their Lootboxes but what’s to say you won’t get the same camo you’ve gotten the last dozen times instead of a weapon etc)

Really the only party anyone should be irritated at is Sony for being * and demanding immediate payment of a digital preorder.

You could also wait for the Road to Battlefield V challenges to offer em (I’m not 100% on this but the preorder does say immediate access not exclusive and all the R2BFV challenges are not currently presented e.g. Two dlc themed dogtags).

I mean the real irony of all the debacle over these preorder weapons in that they are WW2 weapons in bf1; people cry about a woeman in a trailer yet demand to have 5 ww2 weapons in a ww1 game because it’s their right, they bought the game/premium so they are apparantly entitled to em (which no; no you are not).

@TamKingski

@bran1986

I mean you can just preorder and immediately cancel and still get to keep the guns.

That dont work on some platforms,they are wise to the old pre order then cancel trick.
Take the PlayStation network for example,most pre orders that offer something that can be used accessed before the game is released like say a theme/beta/digital comic etc usually have a disclaimer that says in bold yellow writing “requires immediate payment”.

The recent south park game was the same it came with a copy of the previous game and also required immediate payment. Im willing to bet its the same for bfV pre orders if it includes skins for immediate use in bf1.

Edit-just checked on psn,both versions of bfv pre orders say “immediate payment required”

Just to add,im not surprised EA/Dice use these tactics to sell pre orders,im actually more annoyed that EA/dice want 59.99 British pounds for the standard edition of the game,full retail price is 54.99 in the uk yet EA/Dice seem to think they are special and are trying to get away with 59.99!

Seems EA always want that little bit more their greed knows no bounds and will shamelessly push and push untill they make it happen or cause a backlash from gamers then they pull out the “but games cost too much to make so we need to be greedy”,while glossing over the fact that most of the games budget was wasted on unnecessarily huge marketing campaigns,but no no no we cant just spend less on stupidly expensive market campaigns to keep the budget in check we will just charge the consumer more and more cash.

Use ea access; 10%. Oh wait PlayStation doesn’t have that either.

Buy it physically if Sony is charging you a whole $5 more.

RNGesus I’d love to pay $59.99

I received 10% by ordering through the bfv tab in bf1 and then another 10% from ea access. Oh, I haven’t been charged yet because Microsoft does not take payment until 10 days prior to release.

But, I digress.

It’s not appalling.

Well it seems EA is clawing those discounts back by charging more in other regions and upping the retail price for the standard edition of the game. You got 20%off ofcourse you are happy,but trust me you wont be when EA ups the price of games in your region too.

[TEKNOCODE]

@TamKingski

@TEKNOCODE

@crabman169

lmao

They are five reskin variants.
You can preorder the game, get the weapons and cancel preorder without spending a cent (or $5 deposit in store)

They are not op; they honestly aren’t even that good.

How is this scummy? That if you faith and want the next upcoming title they give you some toys to play with right now? I don’t know about anyone else but I haven’t seen other preorder ever give you some content straight up 5 months before the game drops.
(I mean cod preorders give you 1100 cod points for their Lootboxes but what’s to say you won’t get the same camo you’ve gotten the last dozen times instead of a weapon etc)

Really the only party anyone should be irritated at is Sony for being * and demanding immediate payment of a digital preorder.

You could also wait for the Road to Battlefield V challenges to offer em (I’m not 100% on this but the preorder does say immediate access not exclusive and all the R2BFV challenges are not currently presented e.g. Two dlc themed dogtags).

I mean the real irony of all the debacle over these preorder weapons in that they are WW2 weapons in bf1; people cry about a woeman in a trailer yet demand to have 5 ww2 weapons in a ww1 game because it’s their right, they bought the game/premium so they are apparantly entitled to em (which no; no you are not).

@TamKingski

@bran1986

I mean you can just preorder and immediately cancel and still get to keep the guns.

That dont work on some platforms,they are wise to the old pre order then cancel trick.
Take the PlayStation network for example,most pre orders that offer something that can be used accessed before the game is released like say a theme/beta/digital comic etc usually have a disclaimer that says in bold yellow writing “requires immediate payment”.

The recent south park game was the same it came with a copy of the previous game and also required immediate payment. Im willing to bet its the same for bfV pre orders if it includes skins for immediate use in bf1.

Edit-just checked on psn,both versions of bfv pre orders say “immediate payment required”

Just to add,im not surprised EA/Dice use these tactics to sell pre orders,im actually more annoyed that EA/dice want 59.99 British pounds for the standard edition of the game,full retail price is 54.99 in the uk yet EA/Dice seem to think they are special and are trying to get away with 59.99!

Seems EA always want that little bit more their greed knows no bounds and will shamelessly push and push untill they make it happen or cause a backlash from gamers then they pull out the “but games cost too much to make so we need to be greedy”,while glossing over the fact that most of the games budget was wasted on unnecessarily huge marketing campaigns,but no no no we cant just spend less on stupidly expensive market campaigns to keep the budget in check we will just charge the consumer more and more cash.

Use ea access; 10%. Oh wait PlayStation doesn’t have that either.

Buy it physically if Sony is charging you a whole $5 more.

RNGesus I’d love to pay $59.99

I received 10% by ordering through the bfv tab in bf1 and then another 10% from ea access. Oh, I haven’t been charged yet because Microsoft does not take payment until 10 days prior to release.

But, I digress.

It’s not appalling.

Well it seems EA is clawing those discounts back by charging more in other regions and upping the retail price for the standard edition of the game. You got 20%off ofcourse you are happy,but trust me you wont be when EA ups the price of games in your region too.

Insert shrugs shoulder emoji here.

I’ve been paying the same price for games since the late 80’s. It should have happened decades ago.

[TheGM86]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKhbaLyIFw

This would be my reply.

[ssjsnoop]

^lol Good One except for 2 things:

1. I have a job(pretty good one too).

2. I don’t want BFV.

Anyways, hey dudes, I’m back to respond to the interesting feedback this topic has received.

@SunnyTheWerewolf

they are basically just re-skins with very slight differences and the majority of players would not choose to use them over the other variants even if they were available to all.

What kind of subjective logic is that? Because you pre-ordered BFV already, got the guns, and vehemently don’t like those variants that means they are pointless to try for everyone else?

Newsflash, you could say all the variants of guns in the entire game you don’t like are just re-skins with slight differences. Subjective is as Subjective does…

@von_Campenstein

Is it, is it really? It’s EA, gouging is what they do.

I know but jesus tap dancing christ, what, we just accept it and blindly go along with it buying whatever they put out?

@TamKingski

@bran1986

I mean you can just preorder and immediately cancel and still get to keep the guns.

That dont work on some platforms,they are wise to the old pre order then cancel trick.
Take the PlayStation network for example,most pre orders that offer something that can be used accessed before the game is released like say a theme/beta/digital comic etc usually have a disclaimer that says in bold yellow writing “requires immediate payment”.

Seems EA always want that little bit more their greed knows no bounds and will shamelessly push and push untill they make it happen or cause a backlash from gamers then they pull out the “but games cost too much to make so we need to be greedy”,while glossing over the fact that most of the games budget was wasted on unnecessarily huge marketing campaigns,but no no no we cant just spend less on stupidly expensive market campaigns to keep the budget in check we will just charge the consumer more and more cash.

Figured the preorder trick wouldn’t work, just a hunch.

I agree man, their greed know no bounds and they keep pushing their fans to edge with it. Very shameless and disheartening.

@crabman169

They are not op; they honestly aren’t even that good.

How is this scummy? That if you faith and want the next upcoming title they give you some toys to play with right now?

Really the only party anyone should be irritated at is Sony for being * and demanding immediate payment of a digital preorder. *

I mean the real irony of all the debacle over these preorder weapons in that they are WW2 weapons in bf1.

Who said they have to be “OP”? Thanks for your subjective opinion that they aren’t good. Nobody should care about trying them because you think they suck…

It is scummy because I in-fact don’t have faith in the next title, I don’t want it nor am I getting it.

Yea the only group that should be mad you can’t do a pre-order then cancel trick is PS4…the Majority Platform.

And there’s nothing ironic about the weapons because they are neither WW2 weapons or even technically WW1 weapons. They “bridge the gap” as they put it between the wars. The Thompson Annihilator in the game came out in 1919. That’s 1 year after WW1 but far from the version used in the 1940s.

@TamKingski

As i said EA are yet again pushing to see what they can get away with,the got rumbled with pay to win in battlefront 2

DICE is definitely not what they used to be after Battlefront 2.

@zombifiedstalker

Whilst I do feel that it’s wrong and a bit of a middle finger up at those who have paid for the “Premium Experience”. I wouldn’t want to overstate it. After all, it’s only a game. It’s not like they’re out clubbing baby seals or blockading food shipments to starving communities.

lol You forgot #firstworldproblems…smh.

You don’t have to make asinine comparisons to real tragedies like death and famine.

People can still be upset at a company exploiting their fanbase and always pushing consumers to give them more money due to corporate greed.

At least we can agree that it’s a “F U” to those who bought the game and season pass and don’t want to buy a game they don’t like just to gain access to weapons in a game they do like.

[SunnyTheWerewolf]

@ssjsnoop

@SunnyTheWerewolf

they are basically just re-skins with very slight differences and the majority of players would not choose to use them over the other variants even if they were available to all.

What kind of subjective logic is that? Because you pre-ordered BFV already, got the guns, and vehemently don’t like those variants that means they are pointless to try for everyone else?

Newsflash, you could say all the variants of guns in the entire game you don’t like are just re-skins with slight differences. Subjective is as Subjective does…

Holy cow Batman! Talk about subjective comprehension.

Please show me where I state I “vehemently don’t like the guns” or that “they are pointless to try for everyone else”.

You do understand that, for example, the 1911 is literally just a skin?!

I get it, you have an agenda and you need to blindly push it forward.