Just trying to keep u guys grounded. In your echo chamber, you don’t realize how silly you guys sound. Just like the fighter pilot thread, you guys want your class to be designed with only you in mind so u can do whatever u want in the game with no realistic counter. Although u won’t come right our and say it, indirectly you saying you want your play style to dominate and everyone else should be forced to “git good” or “just adapt”. But when the tables are turned and u r forced to adapt or git good, then u cry and cry and rage.
It takes an objective outsider to explain that to you. I do it because I know you need it and I would want someone to do it for me too if I sounded this unaware.
Ehm… The only thing I see in this thread are people that main recon sniper telling about their experience with using bolt action rifles vs other classes and weapons… Asking for devs to take a look and maybe do some balancing… Me and others claim from our experience that right now, these weapons are in a bad spot!
You are the one coming here telling us that we can ptfo just as well as other classes, that we should adapt and that playing sniper just as easy as other classes… Then I say, show us YOU doing this then, because the rest of us cant, were struggling because we sometimes even need 3 hits to be able to kill a target… And in close to medium range were free kill… Then you refuse to do so, and start talking nonsense…
And how are you objective, you are playing assault (or was it support), the strongest and most op classes in the game… You are absolutly not objective in any way…
You are the one that want to dominate, since you dont want classes like recon to be able to defend themself or even play the objective… And the words ”git gud” or ”just adapt” are words that you used in previous thread (fighter plane thread), not me, you got a biased opinion against sniper in this game… Its obvious, stop pretending…
Ive maxed lvl20 with recon, assault and medic so far and hearing this bolt action rifle nerf very disappointing, nerfs in general are disgusting, dice should be buffing everything not nerfing.
I’m not a recon main, far from it, but sometimes I feel the urge to play the class, but it’s aggressive options are woeful. Now that I’ve maxed leveled the class and completed the recon masteries, I won’t be touching it again. I’ve started leveling medic and it’s way easier.
Well technically bolt actions do 2HK with bodyshots, but the 3 hit kill situation is caused these 4 main culprits:
Too agile soldier movement, more precisely a lack of momentum. This makes it almost impossible to lead shots at targets moving in a non-linear pattern.
Soldier can start healing too fast after taking damage.
Bolt action max damage too is low (which is what this thread is mostly about) and the damage drop-off is way too fast.
Bolt action muzzle velocity is too low, this makes it less suitable for attaining high accuracy. Actually, some assault rifles and LMG’s have higher muzzle velocity than bolt actions…
Well technically bolt actions do 2HK with bodyshots, but the 3 hit kill situation is caused these 4 main culprits:
Too agile soldier movement, more precisely a lack of momentum. This makes it almost impossible to lead shots at targets moving in a non-linear pattern.
Soldier can start healing too fast after taking damage.
Bolt action max damage too is low (which is what this thread is mostly about) and the damage drop-off is way too fast.
Bolt action muzzle velocity is too low, this makes it less suitable for attaining high accuracy. Actually, some assault rifles and LMG’s have higher muzzle velocity than bolt actions…
just because you see the class very often does not mean its good. hell even I sometimes struggle with it especially after they removed the knives because of a bug.
This! I have to go to B1 to get that rifle fix. It’s really gratifying to make expert single shot kills with iron sights. It feels authentic and powerful. This was the mainstay weapon of both eras and deserves better treatment in BV. Rifles should dominate long range combat because that’s what they do.
Crybabies just wanna bunny hop around the map without getting zapped.
It was the main weapon because it was cheap and easy to use.
They didn’t dominate long range combat, the LMG and MG dominated at all ranges and caused more death and injuries than any other small arms.
Smgs saw more use in urban and jungle warfare but the LMG still dominated those theatres to.
Well that’s true. But if you made MGs as effective as they really were then you’d really have some unbalance as every player would be carrying one. A real WWII squad was built around supporting its MG but you couldn’t do that with short range SMGs.
True. And I broadly agree that the bolt action rifles lack any punch. I feel like I’m trying to “float” a bullet towards targets not shoot them. And the rate of fire can be slow.
What is that 0.5 KPM? Lots of clips that weren’t really clipworthy, just single kills and most of them bayonettings. You’re not selling whatever that product is called.
Hi, I’d like to bring my 2 cents about the recon class in BFV.
I played a ton of recon on BF4 (GOL Magnum/L115 <3 ) but I didn’t play BF1 at all so…from my experience (2500+ kills) bolt action are pretty good in BFV, but really hard to play since you need to go for the headshot most of the time because the min damage/and drop off are pretty harsh compared to BF4.
I think the spotting scope and flair guns could use a buff, it’s really weak ATM. (just remember the MLP from BF4)
Assault rifle and bipod LMG’s are so strong in this game (accurate/easy to control/deals a lot of damage) that I can understand the frustration playing bolt action, maybe Dice should decrease the scope glint, it’s really insane in this game.
