The solution is simple:
If you didn’t pick up an ammo pouch, nor a health pouch, or stand beside a crate, you don’t resupply, nor regenerate health.
Just reintroduce the good old BF2-system. Remove that player-pandering regeneration: no medics, no supports? Then that team deserves to lose.
This would also incentivize people to let the scout class go and stop hillhumping. At least if they had half a brain and seen their team losing game after game. But only to such an extent the problem is the quality of players we’re talking about here. Most of these new franchise jumpers just leave the game so they can find the right server to camp on. In short, they have no honor…
Imagine buying a 5 door Diesel saloon that does 70 mpg and 8 months later it turns into a 3 door petrol hatchback that barely manages 25 mpg… you’d try and get your money back wouldn’t you?
This is more along the lines of how it should be. Believe it or not Killzone Shadowfall had a LOT of things right. Their system was completely hardcore, so much so that with the terrible, horrible matchmaking it kind of killed the game. None of this regeneration of ammo, no squad spawn–you had to actually place spawn points–and NO auto aim. Could have been the best FPS ever if they had more time and money to implement that style of game into a larger context.
Well I look for support guys to resupply my ammo, not my grenades. As long as ammo doesn’t resupply without packs/crates, players will still need support guys. Nades are just a bonus, and like I said, you’d still need a support guy to resupply your grenades, only you wouldn’t get the nade until the timer is up.
My truck gets about 12-15 mpg right now, that hatchback sounds awesome!
I think this is very interesting. Spawning without full ammo might maybe will stop people from skipping revive. If the idea is that a squad with a support will be stronger then I like it. Did you even read the text? 2 assaults with support should be stronger than 3 without support. That’s perfect, no more instant spawn on squadmates with full ammo/nades.
Why is everyone so upset, I really like the idea.
Grenade resupply is TERRIBLE.
Change it back please.
When you see levelcap speaking in a respectable manner you know it’s a bad idea lol. After hearing that I might actually earn a little respect for him (probably not).
not sure what all the hate for this levelcap guy is about, I agreed with every word he said in the video, and I hope they listen to him and others voicing the same concerns.
Fixed that for ya
It’s not so much hate but more the fact that he always claimed to be a more veteran bf fan but always overlooked things the company did simply because he makes money off of them directly or indirectly. This is the first time I’ve heard him directly criticize dice for a stupid decision like this concept.
It’s pretty clear that most youtubers just care about their popularity which in term is combined to their paycheck. This fact still doesn’t make it ok to sell out and overlook your own self proclaimed principles of what a veteran would feel in this situation.
As for the Grenades make it simple to pickup off of dead soldiers. Make it a max of 2 with variable types so you can have 1 that is native setup and 1 is pickup if not the same. Auto gen is lame.
Really so it’s okay to make changes being made to a series for over years and still be outraged? My point of like or leave wasn’t with a specific change or mechanic it was with the games as a whole. Like I said I under the concerns but it’s the fact of pulling the veteran card.
Like I said if your so angry over these changes made why are you even here yelling and screaming at “casuals”?
Yet assume I jumped on recently and have no clue on skilled gameplay. I have played since BC2 and played every BF for 6 to 5 years. Not to mention a thousand hours in BF4 alone is that enough? Is that enough for you or do I have to go back in time?
I’m a fan boy and have a low IQ? So your going to ignore everything and insult and attack me. I have been vocal about the effectiveness of the grenade since the start and people called me a fool. As well a vocal opponent of the new conquest system.
My problem is with pre frostbite era veterans saying “this is bad this is bad this is bad we need to go back to 1942 or BF2”. Then calls everyone who jumped on recently a “casual” or “low IQ”. Honestly when is the point you realized your not being heard or wanted anymore? Link I said what does 10 years of development 2 main stream titles and 3 spin off titles going against your community’s wish is the limit? It’s not like there aren’t a ton of other games out there suiting for your taste.
I didn’t insult you or call you names or insult your type of games, yet you did those to me just because I critiqued your old game’s community’s behavior. Take a look at your self and see who the real fan boy here is.
If you guys would do the exact opposite of what you are testing here I would be more on board…you know how you make a medic more useful? Take away regenerating health. You know how you make a support more usefull? You dont let things regenerate. If you dont want people standing over an ammo box so they can spam explosives then put a timer on how often you can resupply such things.
As it stands I honestly feel like I personally throw way more grenades because why wouldn’t I? They come back.
MFW people think chasing around clueless Supports and sitting on an ammo box for 12 seconds holding a button is fun gameplay
DICE has managed to get everyone to agree on one thing…Nade auto regen is dumb and needs to go.
The only time I’m chasing a support guy around is when I’m out of bullets, not grenades.
Thanks for posting this here, the more people see it, the better the feedback will be. As for the intended fixes, I think they’re okay. Have to test it in game though so we’ll see how it works out.
