May I ask you not to portray an obviously biased view towards Germany in the game? I know it is a lot too ask. I know this is the general sentiment of allied history. I do however think it is incorrect for the large part.
A good book on the topic is The Myth of German Villainy by Benton L. Bradberry.
By all means do what you want.
The same goes for aggrandizing America or Britain.
They were all as bad as each other and I hope the message is not one side is better than the other but that all sides destroyed each other in a terrible and awful war. Thank you.
people who invade another country or start the war first out of greed or ideology that oppress people will always be the bad guy, don’t care what country you are.
I don’t think BF42 was biased. I don’t think this one will be either. Mind you @ro7hbard , it’s hard to qualify what happened to the Belgian civilians as anything else than horrendous and, yes, evil. youtube.com/watch?v=THRNohrfAiI
No politics on the forum. Thread is getting locked. But just a comment, your statement is generic – ofcourse 100% of people are going to agree with it. But you need to spend many many hours researching before you can decide for yourself if it applies to any particular nation. Just because it is the mainstream norm to believe in something does not make it factual/truth.
this topic is political in Nature i just responded, i have spent many years studying history and that statement applied to anyone, i did not specify no one, just a standard. so your truth and facts and opinion is just that. a opinion, to believe in something vs one actions is not revision its accountability. and besides truth and facts get twisted around everyday by every nation, but mostly done by those who committed the most atrocities. cause and effect.
But Germany did not start World War 1, Serbia did, or, to be more precise, a terrorist group in Serbia. Yes, Germany invaded Belgium, but did not do so because of “ideology”, nor in order to just “oppress the people”.
yes the Russians did start the war or (Serbia )if you will which at the time was a satellite of Russia, Germany which i did not say anything one way or another about was a participant of the war, good or evil with them does only rest with there actions and how they handled themselves, which depends on the person, but alliance wise if your on the bad guys team but your a good guy, it still make you the badguys,(in the big picture after all you supported them) however i did not say anything positive or negative about no one much less Germany, if anything there is alot of story that led up the war, that must be factored in too. not just the end result( the war).
na were just getting in the mood for the game, and what not a better way to go back in time for some in depth multiple perspective of the events back then, personally i love history so i think this topic is great as long as it stays friendly, which so far has i thought. history i learned is not state sponsored or propaganda driven, i wasent alive then after all(so it could all be lies by all sides for all i know), so to me its just discussion, not right or wrong.
There has been a lot of tensions and crisis before the actual war, research the history properly and you’ll see…
After the Ottomans lost power in the Balkan Region, Austria-Hungary occupied Bosnia and Herzegovina, which was a Region like today where Muslims, Serbs and Croats lived together since centuries.
The trigger for the war was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, by Serb nationalist Gavrilo Princip in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914. This set off a diplomatic crisis when Austria-Hungary delivered an ultimatum to the Kingdom of Serbia…
(and this group you mention wasn’t in Serbia man…you need to study properly)
On 28 June 1914, Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinandvisited the Bosnian capital, Sarajevo. A group of six assassins (Cvjetko Popović, Gavrilo Princip, Muhamed Mehmedbašić, Nedeljko Čabrinović, Trifko Grabež,Vaso Čubrilović) from the nationalist group Mlada Bosna (Young Bosnia), supplied by the Black Hand…
Then on 28 July, the Austro-Hungarians declared war on Serbia and subsequently invaded…which caused an avalanche of nations going into war…and the rest is history!
So defacto, Austria-Hungary was the 1st state which declared war, (Serbia as a State didn’t attack anyone!) then Russia on Austria-Hungary, the Germany invaded Luxembourg and declared war on France…and so on…like I’ve mentioned it was an avalanche then.
If people people fabricate false stories then it needs to be corrected, and in this case it’s not possible to understand the issue in 1 or 2 sentences. Indeed even what I’ve wrote isn’t enough to understand the whole issue…to understand the causes of WW1 you have to go back in history for quite some time, even about 100-200 years before WW1.
As for being biased. Don’t know it will, don’t know if it won’t. Doesn’t matter whose faught it was. It was before 99% of all people alive today. So don’t take it personally because how could anything possibly be directed towards you. Also people should not be more patriotic before being human. Be proud to be a human of earth 1st, patriotic second, then protect the killer whales. World peace amen
Well, If someone is to be proud because of something, then the only right thing to be proud is to be Submitted to God. Patriotism is allowed so long it’s not misused for nationalism or racism.
Here it’s simple like I said, about the truth and correcting fabricated stories, not more not less, nuff said.
The author of the cited book—and, thus, the book itself—is somewhere between “really anti-semitic” and “outright Holocaust denial.” Discussion of the book, and its ideas, is best left at Stormfront. The book is also self-published, which says a lot.
In a way, I can’t help but think if there ever was a war in which politics are at the heart, and I don’t mean the petty quarrels of kings and tribal leaders, but actual politics, it is this one. I don’t quite think that scrutiny of the policies and alliances that caused the war is completely out of place if we can keep the tone civil.