Sure they have, you’ve blamed everything but the game. Just because you say it doesn’t make it a fact. If I worked for Dice I would have a real problem with you coming on the forum and flaming people that bought their game and have issues with it.
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There has been plenty of relevant videos posted and each and every time you and or your friends dismiss them as something being wrong other than the game.
Actually they haven’t been dismissed. They have bean prooven to not be OOR or anything else that it was claimed to be. The reason why you choose not to accept factual evidence countering your claims is not our problem.
Sure they have, you’ve blamed everything but the game. Just because you say it doesn’t make it a fact. If I worked for Dice I would have a real problem with you coming on the forum and flaming people that bought their game and have issues with it.
That’s fine you are allowed to ignore facts. Funny thing is facts stay facts even if you don’t acknowledge them.
You know just like you blaming DICE for game issues when Sony publicly announced that it was their fault for online issues.
You only want to believe what fits your agenda.
It’s marvelous… Its.. It’s.. I cant find words.. I’m amazed.. Its like we’ve been dropped off in an backwards universe!
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.
You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
That’s fine. If you’re not confident that you have solid evidence don’t post…but don’t get all mad when people don’t believe you either.
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
That’s fine. If you’re not confident that you have solid evidence don’t post…but don’t get all mad when people don’t believe you either.
Please stop putting words in my mouth and taking what I say out of context.
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
That’s fine. If you’re not confident that you have solid evidence don’t post…but don’t get all mad when people don’t believe you either.
Please stop putting words in my mouth and taking what I say out of context.
Not putting any words in your mouth. If you’re afraid your video can’t hold up I get why you wouldn’t post it. I wouldn’t either.
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
That’s fine. If you’re not confident that you have solid evidence don’t post…but don’t get all mad when people don’t believe you either.
Please stop putting words in my mouth and taking what I say out of context.
Not putting any words in your mouth. If you’re afraid your video can’t hold up I get why you wouldn’t post it. I wouldn’t either.
Now you’re attempting to bait and troll me, you just never learn.
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
That’s fine. If you’re not confident that you have solid evidence don’t post…but don’t get all mad when people don’t believe you either.
Please stop putting words in my mouth and taking what I say out of context.
Not putting any words in your mouth. If you’re afraid your video can’t hold up I get why you wouldn’t post it. I wouldn’t either.
Now you’re attempting to bait and troll me, you just never learn.
I’m not bait or trolling, you are claiming things but not providing any proof if your claims.
I’m not the only one who has asked for proof either. Instead of providing it you keep claiming you have it bit don’t want to show it.
You want to talk about baiting and trolling stop claiming you have proof but blaming others on why you don’t release it.
So if you have proof then show it…otherwise don’t get angry when people call out your “claims”.
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
That’s fine. If you’re not confident that you have solid evidence don’t post…but don’t get all mad when people don’t believe you either.
Please stop putting words in my mouth and taking what I say out of context.
Not putting any words in your mouth. If you’re afraid your video can’t hold up I get why you wouldn’t post it. I wouldn’t either.
Now you’re attempting to bait and troll me, you just never learn.
I’m not bait or trolling, you are claiming things but not providing any proof if your claims.
I’m not the only one who has asked for proof either. Instead of providing it you keep claiming you have it bit don’t want to show it.
You want to talk about baiting and trolling stop claiming you have proof but blaming others on why you don’t release it.
So if you have proof then show it…otherwise don’t get angry when people call out your “claims”.
Now you’re harassing me, I suggest you stop.
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
That’s fine. If you’re not confident that you have solid evidence don’t post…but don’t get all mad when people don’t believe you either.
Please stop putting words in my mouth and taking what I say out of context.
Not putting any words in your mouth. If you’re afraid your video can’t hold up I get why you wouldn’t post it. I wouldn’t either.
Now you’re attempting to bait and troll me, you just never learn.
I’m not bait or trolling, you are claiming things but not providing any proof if your claims.
I’m not the only one who has asked for proof either. Instead of providing it you keep claiming you have it bit don’t want to show it.
You want to talk about baiting and trolling stop claiming you have proof but blaming others on why you don’t release it.
So if you have proof then show it…otherwise don’t get angry when people call out your “claims”.
Now you’re harassing me, I suggest you stop.
How about staying on topic and not trying to fabricate claims in hopes it will get someone banned.
I hate to be “that guy”, and believe me I used to hate on people who would say what I’m about to but…
The game is working near flawlessly for me…now. The caveat is I recently upgraded my network equipment (modem, router etc.) I also switched over to using UPNP instead of DMZ and changed some other router settings. Not sure why it made a difference but it did, like night and day.
Virtually no lag or at least no perceived lag, even against higher pings. My shots hit where they’re supposed to and are registered with the correct damage, my kills feel right and come easy, my deaths feel fair, no one shot insta-deaths. The gameplay is silky smooth minus the occasional frame rate drop, but that’s just because the Xbox can’t handle this game adequately.
Again, I hate to say it, but don’t discount the fact that it could be your ISP, your network equipment, your router settings or a combination of all three affecting the game. For me, everything “wrong” that I used to try and blame on the game has basically disappeared. I know that’s not what many of you want to hear, but all I can say is in my situation, it’s the truth. Frankly, I’m as happy as I can be, because I can spend my time enjoying the game now instead of being frustrated all the time with it thinking I had no power to control what was going on. There was nothing I hated more than feeling like I was just at the mercy of the game and whether it would play properly or not on a any given night.
Yeah not a big fan on DMZ. Nor with port forwarding, my old router couldn’t handle it (even though it was advertised it could) and really ruined my BF4 experience until I upgraded.
As you said lots of factors can effect gameplay. I recently was having big issues with At&t with my fiber line. I play west coast, latency was typical 60-70ms. I played east coast and my latency was 120-130 (typical is 20-30s) and just bad experience. I had to play strictly west coast for 2 weeks (which I don’t like how the game plays over 60ms) until they found their routing issue.
If you don’t know what to look for or troubleshoot it’s really hard to pinpoint where the issue is. Most of the time your ISP won’t help you because it costs them money and the level 1 support really has no clue what they are doing.
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
That’s fine. If you’re not confident that you have solid evidence don’t post…but don’t get all mad when people don’t believe you either.
Please stop putting words in my mouth and taking what I say out of context.
Not putting any words in your mouth. If you’re afraid your video can’t hold up I get why you wouldn’t post it. I wouldn’t either.
Now you’re attempting to bait and troll me, you just never learn.
I’m not bait or trolling, you are claiming things but not providing any proof if your claims.
I’m not the only one who has asked for proof either. Instead of providing it you keep claiming you have it bit don’t want to show it.
You want to talk about baiting and trolling stop claiming you have proof but blaming others on why you don’t release it.
So if you have proof then show it…otherwise don’t get angry when people call out your “claims”.
Now you’re harassing me, I suggest you stop.
How about staying on topic and not trying to fabricate claims in hopes it will get someone banned.
This will be my last reply to you, either leave me alone and stop with the trolling, flaming and baiting or I WILL report you. We are done.
Sorry if this double posts, but my original disappeared:
I hate to be “that guy”, and believe me I used to hate on people who would say what I’m about to but…
The game is working near flawlessly for me…now. The caveat is I recently upgraded my network equipment (modem, router etc.) I also switched over to using UPNP instead of DMZ and changed some other router settings. Not sure why it made a difference but it did, like night and day.
Virtually no lag or at least no perceived lag, even against higher pings. My shots hit where they’re supposed to and are registered with the correct damage, my kills feel right and come easy, my deaths feel fair, no one shot insta-deaths. The gameplay is silky smooth minus the occasional frame rate drop, but that’s just because the Xbox can’t handle this game adequately.
Again, I hate to say it, but don’t discount the fact that it could be your ISP, your network equipment, your router settings or a combination of all three affecting the game. For me, everything “wrong” that I used to try and blame on the game has basically disappeared. I know that’s not what many of you want to hear, but all I can say is in my situation, it’s the truth. Frankly, I’m as happy as I can be, because I can spend my time enjoying the game now instead of being frustrated all the time with it thinking I had no power to control what was going on. There was nothing I hated more than feeling like I was just at the mercy of the game and whether it would play properly or not on any given night.
HillbillyJohn:
VBALL_MVP:
HillbillyJohn:
denjoga:
@HillbillyJohn So not worth it, unless you like banging your head against a wall. Just let it go.
Or don’t… it’s your blood pressure.You’re right of course, I just get tired of this guys crap.
Well we see you when you bring some solid evidence.
Mearen1911:
mmarkweII:
…as stated in another thread. … a relevant video is always worth more than exaggerated duplicate posts.
There have been more than enough videos proving the game is broken. Don’t make a fool of yourself with such posts.
Nobody said there were not issues. There are legit bugs, there are also perceived issues that are not really issues.
Take a look at the recent posts claiming there are hackers and cheaters…lots of misinformation there.
No we won’t see because I’m not making or posting any new game play video just so you can get off on your so called debunking of them.
That’s fine. If you’re not confident that you have solid evidence don’t post…but don’t get all mad when people don’t believe you either.
Nobody cares about your opinions here.
Thanks for the input and videos, very useful. @der_Metatron: So what I believe happens is the following: I do believe you actually did damage to the player coming arround the corner(on your client). However, on his client, he may have killed you before your shot got off on his end depending on both of your latencies. Now what happens is, that in favor of the low pingers, whoever kills first, wins and the damage from the player who died, is disregarded. This is to lower the double kill events and prevent late damage application from high pingers. Of course, we could add some time margin here and allow for a double kill/damage within a certain amount of time (time between the kill and your damage events). That is something I would really like your opinion on.
We did plan to have 60Hz servers for consoles too. But the client performance was not where we needed it to be to run 60 Hz simulation ticks, even for 32 players. This may be something we can achieve next year, but i am not sure about it. 45 Hz dont work so well as all weapons are tuned for multiples of 30Hz and the bullet distribution is not quite the same then.
I will check the claim of server performance being affected by high pingers/players with high packet loss and/or ping variance. I could not verify that so far, but will look into it.
Also, the suppression is affecting the aiming ability as well as bullet spread. The latter may be perceived as poor hit detection. I do blieve this is an area where we could improve the communication to the player.
I dont think we can simply lock the ping for official servers. There are friend invites and we do not cover all regions. We are looking into improving Matchmaking and getting it better, but is is not an easy process. In an ideal world, i’d love to just have players <50ping. Unfortunately that is not the reality.
The erradic movement for high pingers is something i hope i can address.
I have not encountered any problem before spring update. So in my opinion Dice should implement previous netcode.