I feel like I’m tickling enemy jets when i shoot them
Well the F-35 and J-20 should turn like the SU-50, this way the stealth jets can out turn the attack jets. Plus it highlights their role as air superiority fighters.
Don’t you think that the SU-50 is a bit too maneuverable?
It would be fine if all jets would have the same stats. The stealth jets would still have the afterburner, which would give them a fair advantage. And of course, the stealth jets should be able to deal damage.
That would be perfectly fine by me
The J-20 should but the F-35 would have an advantage because of its VTOL that is why the F-35 is a pain in the ass to Balance out.
The F35’s VTOL will never be that effective unless below radar is brought back to the game
Yes but its still something that the other 2 Jets don’t have. The F-22 doesn’t have that so if Dice implemented the F-22 instead of the F-35 they wouldn’t have to worry about balancing out the VTOL. All of the 3 Stealth Jets would have behaved the same.
Bastards…
I like the new jet / view : (
Honestly people, if you were good @bf 3 you will be good @bf 4 just need to see the jet whores from bf 3 : they don’t experience what you are saying because they are already good.
But yea, stealth jet need some balance and the SU 50 certainly a nerf, there is no possibility to win a dogfight against it with any jet if the player is good, way too fast / responsive. But no, they don’t need the OP canons that everyone wants because “it’s d4rk to kill in one spread everything while I have a crazy maneuverablity.!!” If Dice was listening to all the players I believe the balance would be worst than today ; (
and make AA missile killing jet in one shot and/or significantly extend their lock-range
Heh, most of the people posting on this thread are some of the biggest jet whores, competitive team players and pro dogfighters from BF3. They’re already talking and saying it’s crap atm.
I’m even a filthy whore, but I’m a nun compared to a few of these guys… 
Lol no, if they were good they would not lame all day instead of play. Just need to check youtube with people doing 60 - X (oftenly less than 5 deaths).
But yea, the lame on stealth jet is legit, they definitly need a balance.
The lame on the view is just because they don’t want to adapt and they were super happy to rape when it was possible to see everything around you even while looping. Sry now u need a lit more skill, i know, that sux : (
Me too I miss the “WOOOOOO ONE SPREAD I OS EVERYTHING SO GOOOOOOD” but omg let be realist : that was totaly broken. A good jet player would dominate all the game in bf3 without a problem. So yea, no more hard rape w/e is the skill of the dudes in the ennemy team. I know a lot of you are missing the fact that the rocket pod was super easy to use and strong, but plz, stop lie to yourself : that was just OP.
Just extend the flyable area and it’s all fine by me. If you dare to buff even more, then remove/reduce 3D spotting from jets.
Aren’t the stealth jets what most people are talking about?
Stealth jet + laming on the new view + damage done. They just want to be the ultimate jet whore like @bf3.
While the stealth jet lame is legit + a lit of his damage (no, the stealth jet should not be super strong against ground, yes I don’t like that too but it’s better the way it is if one day they really become @air to air superior).
The new view lame is… lame. Plz Dice, let it like that ; (
The attack jet are doing already enough damage against ground, one spread of gunship + some hydra and bye everything almost blow with that.
/Signed. The cannon needs a major buff against other jets. Either that or decrease the reload time for AA missiles by a TON. If there is 4 on the wings, why does it take 20 seconds to load the other two after firing the first set ?
Kupaaaaaaa I think u never did a true dogfight..right? cause if u would have done u would also complain about the dump 3rd person view and this view has not much to do wich raping but propper fights are not possible. If we are geting back the old view doesnt mean we are raping a whole round (the 3rd person cam is not the reason for raping a whole round) but air fight is much better after that.
Yeah as u said its possible to do 60:5 with a jet but with the attack jet…the stealth jet is useless!
I am THE Golden_Darknezz. You obviously don’t know who you’re talking too. 
All of us BF3 dogfight veterans hate the new camera because it makes dogfighting random. And we didn’t dominate BF3 pub because the jets were OP, it was because no one except a select few didn’t know how to use MAA correctly. Also, your opinion on the jets of BF4 is quite tipsy, as you have never done a PRO dogfight from BF3 before.
how about completely removing 3rd person view for any air-land-sea vehicle ?
NO. This isn’t hardcore baby cakes.