How to Balance/Fix Jets

I flew the J-20 and thought the guy in the SU-50 was a better pilot of something. I didn’t fucking realize he was turning 4 Gs faster. Wtf DICE?

/signed

DICE always has trouble configuring all the values for everything in BF.

What’s sad is the babies on the forums complaining about TV missile doing 80 damage instead of 1 shot kill, boom, dead ,die, die, im superman. And 1/10th the amount of people complaining about the jets being just the most horrible thing to happen in Battlefield ever. The stealth jets got a 10x nerf than the choppers ever did damage wise. The jets aren’t even balanced either. DICE is killing off an entire Dogfight community by doing this. And you can’t trade jets to 1v1 either, because they don’t exist until you click to spawn on them. They just materialize midair like some Endgame DLC bullshit. Infact this whole fucking game is just an ENDGAME+ARMOR KILL DLC with a RESKIN and gigantic jet debuff.

Kind of yet no. They can easily fix all of this BS by adding runways into the maps or something, and do what I said in my post. :3

Has anyone noticed that in certain jets you cannot switch to the third person view when you have your secondary weapon selected? You have to fiirs switch back to the primary weapon and then back to third person view.

I haven’t even played the game yet lol and yet I can tell the game is absolutely broken just from pure observation and videos.

/signed

This one and the jet FOV in 3rd person are really annoying man! You will not like these to problems I just mentioned at all!

I hope they fix the FOV and the camera view switching problem when in the secondary gun selector.

ipeng

I actually like the 3rd person fov

still wish they would give us flyby view again tho… using that was what real dogfighting was about in bf2

and Im used to the 80 dmg TVs now… you can fire another one right away and hit the guy when hes trying to recover from the first shot

but yea… JDAMs are pretty terrible as they are right now

BUMP and Support these two posts

http://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/BF4-PC-Jet-FOV-3rd-person-to-low/m-p/1741875/highlight/true#M23486 [answers.ea.com]
http://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-4/JET-Can-t-Toggle-chase-camera-when-secondary-weapon-equipped/td-p/1742741 [answers.ea.com]

ipeng

www.twitch.tv/ipengineer78

I agree on all of that except for the lock-on JDAM as it will make them act like guided missiles.

If anything, this should be optional. Not removed.

Well I am only going by what the JDAM is in real life. But sure, at least make them to where if something is lased it’ll lock on.

  • Remove Proximity Scan from jets (WTF??)
  • Give Stealth something other than air targets to shoot at
  • Find something other than 3 types of A2A missiles for secondary - no self-respecting pilots wants to use them anyway
  • Consider making stealth jets a little harder to shoot with stingers if they’re going to be neutered against infantry; maybe make them “stealthy”
  • Fix jet sounds
  • Fix HUD size in attack jets
  • Make HUD bolder, can’t see pipper or hit indicators on many maps against the sky

Otherwise agree with OP. Heya GD

Yup biggest reason why air combat sucks.

Air radar should be a perk.

  • Also fix the spawn times, their locked at 80 seconds for jets
  • Open up the maps so jets don’t have to DF out of bounds all the time

bump

I havent played yet , but you like myself got into flying jets in battlefield 3 .. If it werent for jets or vehicles this would just be medal of duty 4 .

From the footage ive seen and the feedback ive read , it doesnt sound good . Dice know how much people loved jets in battlefield 3 , they went and ruined it .

Dont touch things that are good the way they were , seems like you redone the whole mechanics ? i see this game going down hill very fast .

Vehicles are a major part of the game , if they are not enjoyable then people are gonna stop playing .

Forget the whiners , there is conquest , tdm and rush modes for people who strictly want to play infantry . So many people crying and whinging went and got this game ruined .

Sure the graphics are great , but the gameplay is better in battlefield 3 as far as im aware . ill see how things end up before i go and buy battlefield 4 , 3/4 of the reason i would buy it is to fly jets and if i cant enjoy doing that im just going stick to battlefield 3 .

The air mechanics are very similar to ace combat , which is a complete rubbish arcade game . Dice i dont know what you went and done , the lead up to battlefield 4 was so exciting and you guys gave us something completely different to what i imagined in my head this game would be like .

I imagined battlefield 3 , with better graphics and entirely new vehciles .. thats all this game needed , mechanics were fine .

I forsee a change though , i almost guarentee they will go back to how they were in battlefield 3 . People arent liking this , thats never a good thing .

Why would they make one jet turn faster than the other ? are these guys kidding at dice =\ ruined the fun for everybody who enjoyed dogfighting in battlefield 3 .

Im not even gonna get into how rediculous lock ons are now .

End rant