Why not a medic who heals/revives and maintains a good k/d?
Lol. The delicious irony of a man that did the same thing yesterday…and got taken down for it. Well done mate. You won the internet!!!
What are you talking about??? Rules how to play this game or gamemode??Where i can find those rules for example how i must play in rush or operations mode?? I have never found them.There are only rules about cheating/ statepadding and so. But who cares about rules how to play a certain gamemode? Every player interprets the rules different. Who cares about KD?? Only noobs do. I allways PTFO but i not have a high KD. Makes that iam a bad player??? KD have nothing to do in relation with PTFO.For me it is important that i have fun and if 10 of the 64 players dont like my playstyle then it is there problem not mine. I dont care about what other players think of my playstyle. And for example a sniper who is 300m away from a flag and he kills a few enemys who defends that flag is also PTFO and not camping. He is doing his job.
this sounds like the common case of a CoD player in a Battlefield player’s clothing.
they’d usually rather a “sik 50 kilstreek” than actually trying to help out the team by giving out health or ammo.
i hope OP plays Soldier, because he’s doesn’t seem like the Support who drops ammo even though somebody is samming “I need ammo!” using QT.
Disposalist - where does it say in the rules you must capture objectives though? Even with a strict rule set, arguments can be made that the lonely hill humper padding his K/D is contributing because he’s spotting people on the objective or killing 1 or 2 people on the objective so an advancing friendly squad is able to take them out easier… Or spotting that tank that’s coming into the objective…
Everyone will experience some sort of frustration with the game. Everyone will have their “fun” messed up by someone else. That’s just life and it will never change no matter how many “rules” you place to try and stop it. (Perfect examples in the real world - speed limits. You boys in the UK even have cameras, but there are still speeders.) There will always be people who follow rules and there will always be people who think rules were made to be broken. The difference, though, is this is a game and if your fun is being affected that much then you already have options - you can change servers or change the game.
Why is it always a good k/d vs handing out ammo/reviving/healing/repairing? Why can’t the good k/d players do it all?
Yep. Dead players don’t take objectives.
“PTFO” nowadays is most often used as an excuse for dying a lot while not doing much of anything.
I have to mostly agree with the OP. The scoring system in this game is bad, it rewards bad players for playing bad. But those players that try to boost their K/D by camping proning ect are just as useless. I often clear a flag killing multiple enemies only to be killed before I get the rewards, while as you say other hide in corners.
I think youmake an excellent point here @disposalist . Sadly some people seem to think that unless rules are written down they do not exist. For example, in football (soccer) it is customary for a team that has the ball and if a player is injured to deliberately kick the ball out of play to enable the player to get treatment. Technically the team that has the resultant thrown in has one a throw in, but it is customary for that team to give the ball back. Its not a RULE, its just common sense and players adhere to it.
There are many many times in life this happens - letting drivers out if junctions when you right of way is just another example that brings to mind.
People should not have to be spoon fed. Battlefield has a tradition, design and history as a team based squad game where in conquest winning and defending is the order of the day. That was one of the reasons for the franchises success.
It is certainly true that DICE should and can do more to promote team play via thunks like education and assignments, but the community should also step up too. Adults should not need need rules to TELL them that if they are not interested to PTFO, then there is a gamemode (TDM) that is specifically designed for them. Yes these players have every right to do whatever they want. But there is a unwritten code of the type that disposalist identifies that should kick in. This is one of the reasons why we should see the return of the old conquest scoring system - To out more emphasis o objectives and the need to win and keep them.
There are just players who play for stats. And don’t help the team’s goals. Probably the more hated types because they should know better than newbs.
Just have fun ffs.
So, the players with no stats is winning the match over the players with stats? Logic.
Yep good players affect win percentage over the long run. Being on your share of crappy teams with crappy teammates cancels out. Everyone will get their fair share of that over the long run. Everyone will also get their fare share of being on great teams. And that will cancel out.
But in between there is where your ability and desire to help a team win affects your win percentage.
Thus newbs still (or only) win 40% of the time or so. And the better team players win 60% of the time or more.
But like any stat it can be manipulated. Switch to the winning side. Quit servers that you sense are going to result in a string of losses. Always squad up with the best players/friends. Or, if you can in BF1, stack your own server.
no, the player helping out his team is winning the match over the guy that rushes in to an objective, nets a few kills and doesn’t stay to cap a flag.
it’s pretty sound logic actually.
Because the guy has a good k/d that is what he’s doing? No.
When will people realise that all stats can be manipulated and are therefore irrelevant.
The ONLY way to determine a players worth is to play with or against them.
Those are not good players the one you said. Those are WAVE Riders. Who follow the guys that put the game on their back and gain tons of points only from FLAG Capping..
I just won a Verdun Match .. I finished second from 64 i lost 17k points to 16k from my squad leader who was Support class. He finished 12/9 Kill stats I finished 40/14. He got more points bassicly because everytime I went first did a couple of kills and died. 28 kills were negated to 1 minute of being less alive them him while capping flags. The only stats he beat me was flag captured he had 10 I had 9. The other points I lost because i was gun fighting while he was capping.
Number 4th on the team was some "PTFO"guy again support who finished 6/10. He just rode the wave it helped we destroyed them 1000/600.
The GAME supports lazy players. I mean it gives way too much points for doing nothing.. It gives u bassicly 100/200 points on a crowded zone at the beginning to refill pistol magazines..
because camping on a hill as a Sniper is helping out the team more? i thought so.
Why not? If you team is try to cap a flag and the sniper kill some flag defenders then the sniper does his job good.
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Before talking crap you can just check me on tracker. ..
My score as support is 0.2 in the world. its by far the easiest to get points..(SPM). The SPM as Medic I am top 5% but thats only because that was my first class and I was bad player at beginning. As medic its also very easy to do points but SUPPORT IS by far the easiest
And dont give me that crap that you give IMPORTANT AMMO. If I play for 4 hours there are like 4/5 times for that 4 hours I run out of ammo and thats bassicly if you kill 4/5 guys. Sure its helpful but most of the times "Support"does his top points on Choke Points where people shoot like crazy and die every other second.
I can respect a support player if he has decent KD or KPM if not play MEdic. That class is for killing. Put the Crossbow Launcher and with Granade and a decent LMG you can destroy people. On Operation a support on his own can clear a choke point . Throw 2 rifles grandes one normal and then just hold the trigger and put 100 bullets infront of you.
P.S My SPM Is 2400 so I know what I am talking about and how to exploit the game If I want to for easy points. I capture flags and kill plenty