I myself am mixed, the bipod MMG lockdown is easily countered in an open field, but when a camper lockdowns a corner as he crouches in rubble, it’s really obnoxious to deal with.
even though MMG’s are balanced, and I myself would much rather use LMG’s like the Bren, they are not fun to play against, not particularly fun to play with unless you have a camping fetish.
I say, let’s leave the damage it as it is but reduce the velocity of most MMG’s to allow reaction in tight corners more feasable, you don’t always have grenades to deal with those spots…
They are frustrating to play with and to play against, in that case you would call it balanced. However they do only allow for one playstyle and that is very stationary, without giving the player the intel necessary to be more dynamic and mobile. That is poor.
I would have just done it the same way as in every other shooter and allow them to ADS, similar to how BF3 handled them with high spread and high recoil that would still give an advantage when bipodded, so that they are used for suppressing and sustained fire, while also having the capabilities to kill in engagements you did not expect. Signed, sealed, delivered.
Right now they are only used in one way, and that annoys everyone, first and foremost the user, and I would want it changed.
MMGs combined with current visibility = zzz. I would be in favour of trying them out with ADS added but with increased spread and/or recoil unless the bipod is out. Might also need to tweak the bullets to kill on some of them in order to maintain half decent balance. They aren’t super fun to play with or against right now imo.
So some youtube overlord posted some statement and we all have to jump on the bandwagon immediately?
I don’t like campers but I dislike youtubers even more. I guess I won’t vote here at all.
They are constantly lying and flip-flopping because of sweet sweet youtube money. Can’t trust a single word as their “opinion” may change with time.
Also, the whole “game changer” thing is nothing but a gigantic marketing tool serving only one purpose - to earn money for EA.
If you are not completely out of your mind, you won’t take those jokers seriously at any given time.
They don’t seem that much of a problem on xbox,although I do stick to Conquest and Squad Conquest. Maybe they’re more common on the meat grinder modes.
I’d say the actual meta in this game is 3x scope, which excludes the MMG. Any nerf would just shift players to the Lewis anyway.
The youtubers do all seem to be having ideas again.
Don’t think this is an issue at all. I don’t die any more to mmgs than I do a sten or gweher, probably less in fact. My experience is you also don’t see any more people camping with mmgs than you do snipers hill humping. If people do camp with mmgs they rarely last very long.
I’m on Xbox so maybe it’s different on PS4 or pc? I’m also only playing breakthrough although you would expect that to be a prime place for mmg campers.
This in my opinion is way less of an issue than hill humping snipers/medics/Arty trucks/tanks were in bf1.
Why is he only complaining about bipods now when they’ve been in Battlefield since BF3? If you add up all the played time of all the players in BF3, BF4, BF1 and BFV and he’s only now decided to complain about it? Doesn’t make any sense. I hate bipods though. It’s another good reason not to buy BFV.
Well he does say in his video that it’s the chokepoints in upcoming maps similar to metro that concerned him.
What he’s talking about is bipod LMGs shooting through doorways etc.
He says “LMG Bipod camper”.
He also states the ways he wants to change MMGs (by the way, they just seem to be saying MMG now instead of LMG): “I would want to remove the reliance on the bipod deployment of MMGs, I would want to reduce the strength of MMGs when they’re deployed on a bipod, and I want to find new way to make those guns effective and fun to use when they aren’t bipodded”.
So if you think he’s not talking about bipods then you probably haven’t watched the video.
Fair enough, I stand corrected. I did get bored about half way through and quit. I totally agree that there’s no reason to complain about bipods, they have been in the game far too long to start complaining now. I also don’t agree that mmgs are an issue (at least not on Xbox)
There are some YouTubers with valuable ideas to share, Chris at Battle(non)sense and WackyJacky come to mind, both because of how they analyze how games work in such detail. But most of the others, meh, occasionally interesting but often just blathering away to fill time and keep people watching. It’s one thing if a YouTuber can show you how to be a better player, but if he’s just yapping away about how he would design the game if he owned EA, that’s not something I’m going to waste much time on.
