“Although Battlefield 2 provides a fulfilling online experience, it isn’t without its fair share of bugs. Much like Battlefield 1942 at its release, a few patches will be required before the game can truly achieve perfection. Before even getting into the game, finding a server to join is necessary, but it is difficult for players to accomplish such a task since the server browser randomly decides to take a bathroom break and keeps you waiting. Once in game, more bugs await. A bug that has recklessly made its way from the demo right into the retail version is lurking in the shadows. Occasionally, perhaps when being auto-switched to the other team, certain players names will come up as red, as if they were enemies. This glitch leads to much team killing and an excessive amount of frustration when the player finds him/herself as an outcast on the run from both allies and opposition. Along with these major problems, there are a few other minor annoyances in the game as well. However, even though these bugs do deter from the overall immersion and experience, BF2s positive elements far outweigh any glitches in the game.”gamershell.com
Sound familiar???
Guess who was the lead designer for Battlefield 2? Guess who was the lead designer for multi-player for BATTLEFIELD 3? Guess who was the creative director for BATTLEFIELD 4? Finally, guess who was announce as lead designer for BATTLEFIELD 1 at E3?
If you guessed LARS GUSTAVSSON, you would be correct!
“A few patches will be required before the game can truly achieve perfection.” “Finding a server” is “difficult for players.” “Auto-switched to the other team.” All Lars Gustavsson trademarks. But he was lead designer for BBC2? FOR PC! NOT CONSOLE! Prediction:
Once the hype dies down and everyone starts to admit that they got fooled again, Lars Gustavsson will be the person out front with a “zeppelin” full of empty promises. Forum mods will demand patience. Fanboy’s will be at it, right on cue. Attempting to defend the indefensible with, “you don’t know how hard it is to be a game designer,” or " you should stop complaining and go do something else until the patch."
Thank you Lars, you just saved me $300 for an XB1, $15.49 for 3 months of xbox live, and $80 for another buggy, half finished, unplayable game that makes me feel even MORE stupid for giving DICE and EA, yet, another chance.
I am afraid you might be right. I am very nervous that not only are your concerns valid, but I also am afraid that it will be like Star Wars Battlefront in that it gets BORING really fast.
At the end of the day it is your choice whether or not you’re going to buy it. Game looks awesome I will decide if I am pre-ordering it after the beta. Not attacking or criticizing the game to harshly until I get hands on.
Beta is not a true test. BF4 beta was very enjoyable and smooth in my memory. Then came the release and then came the OOR players running everything. I’m very worried…more so about high ping nonsense. I want to love this game like no other. Just really worried. Fool me once, shame on you… Fool me twice, another $60 drink coaster lol
As I have said before, high ping and out of region players are the number one issue and concern in my book on console. As beautiful as this game appears to be, what’s the point if your bullets don’t work and you die in a single frame? Yes, I understand improvements have been made but not nearly enough.
I genuinely feel sorry for DICE. It looks like they have put some serious effort into this game and its already being slated by who haven’t even played it. who seem to feel they are owed something from these developers.
This is one of those threads that makes me cringe and feel embarrassed to be associated with the original poster simply because we are both gamers.
While too much hype can be bad for a game these doom/sky-is-falling threads are worse. There is far too much speculation in this forum and it is ruining the atmosphere. These criticisms are not healthy, are mostly illegitimate, and spoken completely without thought for the overall game (how one thing effects anorher and so on).
In one thread the people complain that there is nothing new and the very next thread DEMANDS a certain feature be just like (insert your most nostalgic BF game here). We are actually making fools out of our selves as players.
Don’t forget, some of us are basing our “fears” on experience as consumers of EA products all the way back to Medal of Honor in 2007. My concern was present in Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4 and Hardline.
I’ve been funneling cash to EA/DICE since 2005, and following the changes made to a couple core mechanics with the release of BFBC2 Nam, then the horrible (IMHO) Battlefield3 of Duty, with auto spot, auto repair, etc. I skipped hardline altogether because BF4 was still so buggy (still can be, too). The concern is valid, and I’ll be watching this game closely before I decide to invest in it.
We gamers are a funny bunch. The only group of consumers I can think of to have bad experiences with a product and then rather than discontinuing use of said product we blow up forums demanding the product is changed to cater to our personal likes and dislikes.
Dont get me wrong. There are people who actually do their research, submit well thought out explainations, include examples and evidence, and do help devs with their ideas, suggestions, and bug reports. But so many more times than not people literally vomit speculation and ignorance into these forums. This thread is pure conspiracy theory and further more it is opinion and should be closed.
The game is still 5 months from release, and you’ve already convinced yourself it’s going to be an atrocious and broken game at launch. Why wait. I’ll just tell you now to move on. I doubt there’s anything that could’ve been said or done to convince you otherwise.
Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 3 were absolutely amazing games. 4 was terrible at launch but was still a good shooter over all, just definitely not my favorite Battlefield game. You are saying this game will be bad because the person associated with it as the lead designer also made BF2 and BF3? Come on. You have absolutely no valid argument here. Everyone, and I mean everyone loved BF2, and the same basically goes for three. You are mentally deficient.
Also, another poster making concern troll threads while having next to no post history. Sure is becoming pretty common around here. Almost like someone, or a group of people are purposely trying to sow seeds of discontent among the userbase by creating absolutely false worries.
I’m seeing as much fact-via-experience as I am opinion. Other than server issues, I’ve never jumped on a forum to cry ‘nerf’ like I’ve seen on every BF forum for the past ten years. I remember seeing DEVs chime in on forums back before twitter existed. Hopefully they still take the time to peruse the forums during development vs listening to the cry-bots tweeting ‘suggestions’ limited to 140 characters.
If you are suggesting that out of region players do not wreak havoc on local game play as conspiracy - then I have no words for you. Respectfully of course. As far as research, I’ve been in this debate since the first patch was released on Battlefiel 4 with lengthy discussions with developers and etc. It’s the squeaky wheel that gets the attention and improvements have been made …I am merely concerned. if I misunderstood your reply, I apologize in advance.
How come in other games like Hardline/Overwatch I can find servers easily. But in BF4 I have to constantly refresh. A server that was available a minute ago is gone, and there only appears to be a few servers available at any time?