[Megathread] BFV and Cheating Discussion

I web surf on a smartphone so everything looks tiny to me. :yum:

@Red_Label_Scotch it’s usually because each company’s legal teams have different tolerances for corporate legal exposure. Some companies have a large tolerance for such things and others are more conservative choosing not to take chances in an ever changing Political and regulatory landscape.

I am sure buried in this 56 page discussion but I am too lazy to read every post, why is PC have the huge hacking problem and consoles do not. You would think the manufactures (especially in Asia) of a lot of the PC graphic card, mother boards, and other parts that go into a PC would have a great interest in help solving the problem. Why build an expensive fast PC for gaming when the games you play are easily hacked, so owning the state of the art PC will not improve your score or enhance your gaming experience.

Not an expert on this topic, but my understanding is that it is very difficult to ‘jailbreak’ PS4, and Sony are very quick to patch any vulnerabilities. Probably the same for Xbox.

Cheat developers don’t want to spend time/money creating hacks that can be quickly nullified. Much easier, and more profitable, to focus on PC.

Wow, this game is so full of low level aimbot hackers it’s just unplayable. Wow. Thanks EA for your support of long time players. NOT. Nice spell check on the word aimbot by the way, as if it doesn’t exist. Wow. The worst ever. Feckless.

@xHonest_Abe

PCs will let you install any software you want on them. Consoles will only run software Microsoft and Sony approves.

Encryption is used on consoles to prevent unauthorized software being installed on them. Microsoft and Sony signs every single file with their encryption keys, and the console verifies the signature before loading the file.

It won’t even boot another operating system like Windows 10 or Linux because even the boot files are encrypted with digital signatures.

PC hardware isn’t designed to be tamper resistant. PC manufacturers expect the owner to install whatever software they want on it.

Consoles on the other hand are designed to only run software Microsoft and Sony approves. So cheat software can’t be installed and run on them, because the cheat files lack the digital signature which only Microsoft and Sony can create using their private encryption keys.

I keep telling myself that the cheaters are going to get sick of the game soon and move back to fortnite .
it must be mind numbingly boring to run around a map steering a bot , like if bf5 had the same cheats installed by default it would be a game even the non legit players would not buy.

Especially if you create cheats

for a game of a company that,

apparently to parry the rear legally, he decided to leave full freedom of use.

Yeah, did that mysterious misapplied law suddenly change again?

So it’s not that “We can’t,” but that, “we won’t.” Quite a different picture than the one that your co-moderator is posing, that you are de facto defending, like the good teammate that you are.

Did a bit of digging into the paid cheats and was a bit shocked to the extent of the stuff they can do to a game. The cheat site states you will get a fair fight ban if you use one of the more obvious features. If they do get a ban it has hardware ID spoofing to allow them to continue!

Was also reading on reddit a youtuber was been targeted by groups of cheaters while he was trying to live steam. Cheating has become an epidemic on PC.

I’m taking a long break from BFV & Battlefront 2 they are simply not worth playing on PC. Plenty of other games to catch up on over the Xmas holiday.

Thankyou for this insightful post, now I know more about the AC mechanism differences and why PC players are plagued by cheaters whereas the consoles are relatively free.

I like to check this thread now and again to see if there is any reaction from EA_Tom , since he made this thread.

So far, not much to see here.

No. How Pubg chose to try to adhere to the law changed however (probably due to feedback from their lawyers).
In any case thanks for mentioning the Pubg list thing, it actually ended up proving me right :slight_smile:

just been one shot bot jockey killed by a non legit plane
.. them planes have got out of control

Nah… they won’t go back to fortnite… Cause Fortnite got a working Anti-Cheat :wink:

But then what do you to protect the players who are actually that good but get falsely haccusated all of the time? My stats aren’t even that great and I’ve had people accuse me and say they reported me. I’m only decent because I spend more time than someone probably should adjusting my settings, watching turtorial/tip/pro videos, etc on top of playing pretty much every night for a few hours.. How do you police the false accusers and their false reports?

The issue today is that people are jumping to conclusions quicker than previously just because someone who has honed their craft enters into a server and dominates them. And no one likes being dominated so they jump to a conclusion that certainly there must be a reason that is not skill-based to explain why they are being dominated. Even these days you see people have an advantage just by having (and being able to push) a 144hz monitor vs a 60hz monitor. But not a lot of players recognize or think about this stuff.

I’m not saying I know the answer, but it’s also not as simple as “let the community police themselves”.